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03/06/2006 12:55:13 PM · #1
I recently went from a 3mp dimage Z1 P&S to a 8mp canon rebel XT Dslr. with my Z1 i was scoring close to and just above 6. with my rebel I am scoring mid 4's. why is this? Is it because i have yet to become "comfortable" with my equipment? Has anyone else noticed a difference in scores after changing cameras?
03/06/2006 12:57:18 PM · #2
Probably just a coincedence, and the fact that your choice in subjects doesn't happen to agree with the voters for now.
03/06/2006 04:47:39 PM · #3
I took much better pictures with my Olympus P&S than I have managed yet with my DSLR that I've had for two months. The Olympus took great pictures and was easy to use. My D70s takes great pictures too, but I am not totally comfortable and up-to-speed on it yet. So yes, I think your comfort and experience level with the new camera could be a factor.
03/06/2006 05:31:20 PM · #4
Yep!
03/06/2006 05:44:05 PM · #5
yeah, my scores dropped dramatically when I went SLR, but don't worry... they went back up.

drake
03/06/2006 06:02:15 PM · #6
My first entry with the new Rebel is totally bombing. It's a good photo, but not as daring as I am known to produce.
03/06/2006 06:12:01 PM · #7
Well, my average score is a 5.5... My current entries are my first with the 10D and they are currently 5.6 and just about 6 (5.9+) respectively. Overall, though I still think I was taking better photos with my 717 on a consistant basis. I'm not sure my photos will be a whole lot better with the 10D, but I DO believe I'll be able to get photos I couldn't do well with the 717.
03/06/2006 07:56:59 PM · #8
thanks guys...i was thinking for a bit that i might have had a total brain fart and forgot eveything Ive learned here. I guess this is a case of "pratice makes perfect"(or at least better huh)
03/06/2006 08:06:58 PM · #9
Also... P&S's do more in-camera editing, such as sharpening and saturation, so there needs to be more effort and care post-producting with dSLR's... just one point.

Lee
03/06/2006 09:23:44 PM · #10
Originally posted by Tranquil:

Also... P&S's do more in-camera editing, such as sharpening and saturation, so there needs to be more effort and care post-producting with dSLR's... just one point.

Lee


ok...so i currently have my sharpening feature turned off....should i turn it on? if i do turn it on and then do a round of noiseware(without sharpening here) and then USM will i get the dredded "jaggies"?

Message edited by author 2006-03-06 21:24:25.
03/07/2006 03:54:11 AM · #11
No, I didn't need a new camera to find out I couldn't take photo's. I suck but I have fun and don't really care what people think. (that applies to all things in life I do). As example, when is the last time you played in the rain or jumped in a puddle??? or spin around really fast in the spring air just to make the world spin differently??? Life should be fun.
03/07/2006 03:55:58 AM · #12
i bought a new keyboard and realize i type slower than normal.
then i found out i got the wrong region keyboard =_=;
03/07/2006 04:15:19 AM · #13
I had a little sony cybershot that could take the most incredbile pictures.

Man, I thought I knew everything.

When I eventually got my 350D I thought things will just get better, but man was I wrong.

I kinda expected the camera to do everything for me!

Anyhow, for the first two months I probably managed to produce one or two pics that were equivalent in impact to the hundreds of pics I took with the little sony.

Now, however, a lot has changed. The more I learn, the better I become.

Suppose its like anything in life, really.

;o)
03/07/2006 05:52:02 AM · #14
It's taken me a year to get comfortable with my dSLR. My challenge scores have probably dipped and gradually gotten better, but the main thing is that I am liking my results more and more as I learn what the heck I'm doing.

Don't get discouraged, cher, it will take a little time, but then you will soar with your images. The best advice I can give is to shoot RAW since it gives you many more options for adjustments and compensation in post processing.

Have fun.
03/07/2006 06:15:49 AM · #15

This raises an interesting question of mine...

Are photogs using a P&S camera that does quite a lot of in-camera processing allowed to enter their photos in the competitions that severely limit post processing??
03/07/2006 06:20:59 AM · #16
Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:

I recently went from a 3mp dimage Z1 P&S to a 8mp canon rebel XT Dslr. with my Z1 i was scoring close to and just above 6. with my rebel I am scoring mid 4's. why is this? Is it because i have yet to become "comfortable" with my equipment? Has anyone else noticed a difference in scores after changing cameras?


Nope, just entered my first ever submission with my shiny new Nikon D200 for Square Crop and it seems to be heading towards my first ever score above 6.0 :)

HÃ¥kon
03/07/2006 07:48:41 AM · #17
Its a disease called "Upgradus equipmentii unnecessarius"; commonly referred to as sales commission bonanza.

The only cure is to send your dslr to me and resume taking pictures with your Z1(the light on white elegant shot is very good, by the way.

This syndrome usually effects middle aged men, buying big trucks to feel more manly, and buying fast little sport cars. that condition is called "minutus crankii replacementitus porcheitus."

In all seriousness; its not about the scores. Its about you making art with your new camera. Its not about the camera, its about you. You need to get used to the tool so it becomes invisible again, just like the z1.
good luck.
03/07/2006 09:27:18 AM · #18
Originally posted by blindjustice:


The only cure is to send your dslr to me and resume taking pictures with your Z1(the light on white elegant shot is very good, by the way

In all seriousness; its not about the scores. Its about you making art with your new camera. Its not about the camera, its about you. You need to get used to the tool so it becomes invisible again, just like the z1.
good luck.


Thanks! I worked hard on that shot and learned alot from doing it too. but i dont think i could bear to part with it quite yet. Hubby swears it's become permanatly attached *Hee~Hee* :oD

03/07/2006 09:46:46 AM · #19
Getting a better camera (FZ-20 in my case) forced me to start to think about the mechanics of taking pictures rather than just taking them. In other words, the process is still mechanical and not yet intuitive.

So saying, I am beginning to remember a lot of the stuff I used to know instinctively when shooting 35mm - e.g. exposures, fill-in flash techniques - as well as going way beyond where I was back then - e.g. actually managing and controlling light, "thinking" about the narrative in the picture I am taking.

I am still a long way from where I would like to be - reading the camera's manual this morning produced one of those Homer Simpson "Doh!" moments - and may never get there but it is sure a lot of fun.

Carl

PS My wife said but one thing to me when I got back into photography again: "You shove another light meter in my face again and I will shove the light meter is a place the sun don't shine!" Quote paraphrased and edited for language and humour
03/07/2006 09:50:07 AM · #20
Originally posted by AWCarey:

This raises an interesting question of mine...

Are photogs using a P&S camera that does quite a lot of in-camera processing allowed to enter their photos in the competitions that severely limit post processing??

You answered your own question. In-camera processing is not post-processing.
03/07/2006 10:22:00 AM · #21
I suppose it doesn't matter really, since the type of processing which happens in camera on P&S cameras seems allowed... Sharpening, contrasts etc.

But it would be nice to be able to clone out the dust on my sensor. :)
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