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02/19/2006 04:56:16 PM · #1
I've just been notified that my Sins II entry "Shared DPC Lust" has been DQ'd for the foloowing reason:

Explicit content like this is forbidden by our Terms of Use.

I completely understand why it was DQ'd, as was it's partner image and I am by no means angry at SC, admins or those that requested the DQ. It was edgy, too edgy. I pushed the envelope too far.

I assumed that it was in the rules. No genitals, no actual sex acts. But, it came too close to the edge. I would have not submitted anything this graphic in any challenge, but it seemed appropriate for a challenge I assumed would contain a lot of "lust."

But, to be perfetly honest, I think we had the most creative entries in the challenge and nailed the topic of Sins well.

I'd like to aplogize to those that found offense in the image. I know it's somewhat expected that I will go edgy and push the envelope, but I never intend to completely offend anyone. I understand the need to keep images like this out of the eyes of younger voters. So, I ask of you to accept my apology.

Will I continue to do edgy shots? Yes, when appropriate. I do think I have a better understanding of "the edge" now, so it probably won't go in that direction.

I'm open for questions and an open discussion. Please don't turn this thread into a rant on morals/religion.

Edit:
The Link to My Entry
The link to Shutterpug's Entry ... also DQ'd

Edit: So that Shutterpug gets heard also:
Originally posted by ShutterPug:

Leroy stated well both our intentions and our sentiments. My apologies also to whomever was truly offended. The images were not meant to be offensive. In my mind they fit the challenge well and were more of a parody at the same time.
There will be no argument with SC or D&L on my part either. I do not agree that they violated the rules, but will accept that they came close and that the majority has ruled.
Unlike my friend in this adventure, I have never really pushed the envelope before. I can't say that I would not push it again, as I like living on the edge and artistic freedom. I too though have a better understanding of where the edge has it's limits.

In close, my apologies to all who were offended, and my thanks for those who left comments that they had enjoyed the images as they were presented.


Message edited by author 2006-02-19 18:02:46.
02/19/2006 05:00:50 PM · #2
In that case I'm sorry I missed it.
02/19/2006 05:02:20 PM · #3
damn I missed it too.
02/19/2006 05:02:42 PM · #4
Well, without going back to find the missing entries I reckon I know the image/s.

The good news is, you know what direction the 'envelope' should not be pushed in future.

Cheese was near the knuckle in a different way - keep the funny ones coming :)
02/19/2006 05:05:04 PM · #5
I guess we all have our own level of tolerance. I did not find one photo on this challenge that I would consider lewd. Some may have been in bad taste perhaps, but lewd... I don't think so.

To each their own I guess....

Best of luck in future endeavours.

Ray
02/19/2006 05:09:00 PM · #6
This DQ makes about as much sense as firing Jocelyn Elders as Surgeon General.
02/19/2006 05:09:34 PM · #7
For what its worth. I actually loved the idea of the two shots, when yours first came up I thought- someone is in for a butt kicking- then a few votes later the second "teamwork" image popped up. I gave both 10's for the record I thought it was downright funny and took no offense whatsoever, although I can see how some could. Good luck with your future entries.
02/19/2006 05:10:16 PM · #8
Leroy stated well both our intentions and our sentiments. My apologies also to whomever was truly offended. The images were not meant to be offensive. In my mind they fit the challenge well and were more of a parody at the same time.
There will be no argument with SC or D&L on my part either. I do not agree that they violated the rules, but will accept that they came close and that the majority has ruled.
Unlike my friend in this adventure, I have never really pushed the envelope before. I can't say that I would not push it again, as I like living on the edge and artistic freedom. I too though have a better understanding of where the edge has it's limits.

In close, my apologies to all who were offended, and my thanks for those who left comments that they had enjoyed the images as they were presented.

Message edited by author 2006-02-19 17:23:53.
02/19/2006 05:16:18 PM · #9
No offense seen. No offense taken.
02/19/2006 05:19:10 PM · #10
Shutter, I saw yours first... I knew it was you and I liked it, not as sharp as it could have been but I liked it. Then I saw the cheese man's, then I upped the vote on both of them. I think fotoman may have pushed a little harder, but I did not think they were lewd. But that's just me.
02/19/2006 05:20:27 PM · #11
Borderline bad taste, but very funny. :-)

02/19/2006 05:20:38 PM · #12
Wow, thats kinda suprising that is considered pushing the edge.. I thought it was kinda clever using the 2 images like that, kinda a long distance relationship. I guess another chipping away from the artistic freedom we normally enjoy. Lucky this wasn't a music site because The Divinyls song "I touch myself" that was an international hit, would have been over the edge also. Keep up the great photo's Leroy despite the "unmoral" DQ...
02/19/2006 05:26:52 PM · #13
Saw his first, and thought I was seeing his last entry -- figured she was going to kill him. :D Then when I found her entry I was still laughing an hour later (not at you Linda, with the both of you).

But sadly, I was also waiting for the DQ -- although I expected it for violation of the collaboration rule. :P

Oh well, the site 'moral' minority spoke and the SC majority acted. Shame they choose to DQ for TOS reason -- I haven't checked but I assume that means the image have been completely removed and best not put back into portfolios for those who missed them.

No offense intended or done -- no apology needed.

David
02/19/2006 05:28:22 PM · #14
can we see the entry? PM me a link :D
02/19/2006 05:30:03 PM · #15
Well, in pushing the envelope, sometimes you go over the line. You then get called for it. If that's where you want to be, then I'm sure you're big enough to accept the possible consequences (which appears you are and you did).

Personally, I found them clever, but perhaps a little more than I wanted to see. I'd certainly find them a little "beyond" for our younger viewers. Lately we've seen some lesbian shots and I'd have to judge those on their intended purpose, but I wonder about them.
02/19/2006 05:43:41 PM · #16
The challenge rules do not apply to portfolio pics, so you may post your image in your portfolio if you so wish. I personally do not find the images offensive, however, they DO depict an act of sex, which by the challenge rules is forbidden.
So lets see what all the talk is about! ;) (Just make sure you hit us up for a Thread title change if you post the pics here, so we can put up our 'warnings'.)

Message edited by author 2006-02-19 17:44:32.
02/19/2006 05:54:15 PM · #17
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:


But, to be perfetly honest, I think we had the most creative entries in the challenge and nailed the topic of Sins well.



I think it was creative as well, but not the most creative.

It was good. Not great.
02/19/2006 05:55:59 PM · #18
Originally posted by HBunch:

The challenge rules do not apply to portfolio pics, so you may post your image in your portfolio if you so wish. I personally do not find the images offensive, however, they DO depict an act of sex, which by the challenge rules is forbidden.
So lets see what all the talk is about! ;) (Just make sure you hit us up for a Thread title change if you post the pics here, so we can put up our 'warnings'.)


Go ahead and change the title and I'll upload to my portfolio.
02/19/2006 05:56:39 PM · #19
Originally posted by HBunch:

The challenge rules do not apply to portfolio pics, so you may post your image in your portfolio if you so wish. I personally do not find the images offensive, however, they DO depict an act of sex, which by the challenge rules is forbidden.
So lets see what all the talk is about! ;) (Just make sure you hit us up for a Thread title change if you post the pics here, so we can put up our 'warnings'.)

I thought they were removed for TOS violation -- not challenge rules.

???

David
02/19/2006 05:59:47 PM · #20
Well, hold up on that, I might have a different view than the majority of the SC, so let me get a decision on if they'll allow it in the portfolio. I'll let you know.
02/19/2006 06:00:23 PM · #21
I uploaded and started a new thread complete with warning: //www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=350983

Go ahead and post there Leroy
02/19/2006 06:00:47 PM · #22
Originally posted by HBunch:

Well, hold up on that, I might have a different view than the majority of the SC, so let me get a decision on if they'll allow it in the portfolio. I'll let you know.


Ooops - jumped the gun
02/19/2006 06:04:34 PM · #23
Originally posted by ShutterPug:

Originally posted by HBunch:

Well, hold up on that, I might have a different view than the majority of the SC, so let me get a decision on if they'll allow it in the portfolio. I'll let you know.


Ooops - jumped the gun


Umm .. appropriate choice of words. :D

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I hope they let you put them in your ports -- those images are funny.

David
02/19/2006 06:05:41 PM · #24
Another wardrobe malfunction.
02/19/2006 06:07:09 PM · #25
Originally posted by HBunch:

Well, hold up on that, I might have a different view than the majority of the SC, so let me get a decision on if they'll allow it in the portfolio. I'll let you know.


Heather, I'm leaving the house soon to go to a ball. If SC objects to link to the photos, please edit my OP and I'll remove the photos from workshop folder late tonight
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