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02/15/2006 08:03:55 PM · #26
Sorry to hear about the deportation. Good luck!
02/15/2006 09:02:00 PM · #27
Sorry to hear about the guitars!! :-o
02/15/2006 09:17:21 PM · #28
Wow, Marac, that's really awful. I'm glad you got some results, but I feel terrible that you're selling the guitars. Keep that chant going until you land in England and know that you and Hanae are getting all the positive vibes I can send your way.
02/15/2006 10:29:15 PM · #29
Any news on whether or not you will be allowed back? If there is a yes, you might want to see if you can get that in writing. The London Office for Japan's Visa office might not have good communication with home base and might give you flak if you have all this on your record, but don't deal with someone in the know.

I don't know much about Japan's methods, but Taiwan's setup in this regard is more than pathetic. I had a business card and a letter from the police station (the governing authority on foreign visa's, not the criminal law police) and they didn't know what to do with it. They didn't even know about laws that were 2 years old. (I had to do the research in Taipei City Hall, so I'm sure).

If you do want to go back, it might be good to find out before you leave what might be involved.

Of course things do change after you get married to a national, so they might say no, but not have a leg to stand on after you get married. You might need to wait a year in between though.
02/16/2006 12:23:34 AM · #30
Originally posted by eschelar:

Any news on whether or not you will be allowed back? If there is a yes, you might want to see if you can get that in writing. The London Office for Japan's Visa office might not have good communication with home base and might give you flak if you have all this on your record, but don't deal with someone in the know.

Looking at advice from an Australian Govt. web site:
"Some people convicted of drug related offences have had their sentence suspended but will be issued with a deportation order. People deported under these circumstances are not permitted to return to Japan for five to ten years."

This seems to be the situation alionic is in. I do not think they make any exceptions for spouses or relatives. A year or so ago there was a story about a young girl that was being deported. One of her parents was Japanese and the other parent was from the Philippines, or some other Asian country. The girl was born abroad and her parents died in some accident, I think. Anyway, she came to Japan to live with her grandparents because she had nowhere else to live, but immigration was determined to deport her after her visa expired. I think they might have let her stay, but it was only after a lot of publicity.

02/16/2006 05:16:34 AM · #31
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

Sorry to hear about the guitars!! :-o


Sold my Gibson LP Standard today 1996 tobacco sunburst 50s reissue for a mere 84,000 YEN but it was the best offer we got and covered my ticket expense..

Yes RISU I believe you are correct it will be a min of 3 years they said and even after that 3 years there is no gaurentee that I will be allowed to return here daughter living here or not, dont matter a bit. but the usual case is 5-10 years.

I will fly out on 21st Feb on Aeroflot Russian airlines, I will present myself to Immigration on 20th Feb in the morning and be required to stay in their custody and taken to the airport on 21st morning to get my flight, I am allowed to take my baggage also and I have heard they dont have to let me do that either, they can send me home with nothing but the shirt on my back if they so wish.

Kissing the ground when I touch down in London is very much EXPECTED, I will sure be glad to be home.

Finally thanks to everyone offering their best wishes, and to Philip Dyer who is a good friend of mine and I really miss our little trips out to shoot.. god bless you.
02/16/2006 05:56:07 AM · #32
(((hugs))) thoughts and positive vibes coming your way Marac.
02/16/2006 06:26:29 AM · #33
I live in China, and even the Communist authorities aren't that strict. I had wanted to go to Japan but I am now reconsidering, I have heard alot of bad things about the Japanese policing of foreigners.
In China the cops treat you better then they treat the locals. I got into a scrap at a bar a year ago, knocked the guy out of course, but it wasnt my fault. Anyhow the police came, took us to the station, made him apologize to me, and that was that. I didn't have my passport and that wasn't a problem. One of the police officers asked where I lived, I told him, and he said "we're neighbours, we should hang out sometime".

If you don't mind me asking why did you have to spend 3 months in jail?
02/16/2006 06:30:48 AM · #34
You were caught for POT. Oh Oh. Its true in China they can kill you, but I think you need to be caught with over a quarter pound or so. The funny thing is marijuana grows wild here and many people in the country smoke it with tobacco and don't know what it is. My buddy picked a bunch, cooked it into oil and is still smoking the stuff 6 months later.
02/16/2006 10:23:00 AM · #35
Heh, be careful what you say. China (last I heard anyhow) monitors internet usage to a small degree (not as bad as russia though).

I think I've seen it growing wild here too, but you have to pick it at the right time to have any THC content. Which is probably why most people don't smoke it.

Of course smoking it is the stupidest way to take it into your body.

Go bake some muffins or something if you must.

ALL smoke is carcinogenic to some extent. Burning anything and inhaling the smoke particles is inherently unhealthy.

And yes, health is my field of expertise - specifically natural food and special dietary needs for those with allergies.

Don't forget that getting caught by cops in a bad mood in a government with total authority and an unpredictable need to set examples of people is significantly more unhealthy than doing the drugs in the first place, so either way it is not recommended.
02/16/2006 09:08:23 PM · #36
Actually the only GOOD thing to come out of my experience in jail was that i realised i had been smoking (tobacco) for 28 years.... I was like WOW!!! I stopped and still do not smoke since June last year I will NEVER smoke again but I also fear that the damage has been done.

Buying my ticket today and packing then i go to immigration 20th for the evening and in the morning my Gretsch, my Fender Tele and my iMac and camera gear will leave here for good.. I been here 9 years and would say that the Japanese people are totally wonderfull but the laws need a serious looking at.
02/21/2006 02:16:02 PM · #37
Waiting to hear that you made it safely back to UK....
02/21/2006 02:58:05 PM · #38
Have a safe trip Marac. Jah guide mi brethren!
02/24/2006 10:12:45 AM · #39
Has anyone heard from Marac at all, since he was told to go to immigration for the night?

:(
02/24/2006 10:17:16 AM · #40
I was wondering that also..... where is he????
02/24/2006 10:18:49 AM · #41
I haven't heard anything but am waiting for a phone call from him when he gets over to the UK, as soon as I hear from him I will let you all know.
Best I can offer at the moment
02/27/2006 01:44:24 PM · #42
for all those that havnt seen it, alionic is now back safely :)
02/27/2006 01:48:44 PM · #43
Mate I agree weith others The British embassy is where you go. Let them sort it out for you.,Best of luck and best wishes.
let us know how you get on .
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