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07/21/2003 06:07:08 PM · #76
I'm not clicking on that.... ;)
07/21/2003 06:09:36 PM · #77
Originally posted by kellyrae3:

I'm not clicking on that.... ;)


ScaredCat!
07/21/2003 06:12:55 PM · #78
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

trim...
Perhaps if we adopted a flag more like the movies (PG-17) rather than just "Nudity" to describe objectional photos, and put a button requesting the photo be flagged .


That is the best thing I have heard all day. Why couldn't the nudity option be changed to include objecitonal photos. I sent some to Terry that I really don't like seeing and out of my examples I sent to him there are 3 that I positively don't think we should be subjected to in thumbnails anymore than I think someone who doesn't want to see nudes should be subjected too.


I don't want to appear to be having a go at anyone, but (and there's always a but) all this sounds like the moral minority telling the majority what is good for them.

A button requesting a photo is flagged? Then all of the images on this sight would get flagged if shown to enough people.

there are 3 that I positively don't think we should be subjected to Do you mind letting us know what they are so we can make our own minds up?

Come on people do you phone the TV station to suggest they add parent filters to news broadcasts?

The only workable solution is not to put yourself or your children in a position of harm, dacrazyrn summed it up earlier: The "it is not my fault or responsibilty" attitude of us Americans is getting ridiculous

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 18:14:28.
07/21/2003 06:13:12 PM · #79
no. I see no reason for parental control on natural rock formations. now, you chose to put a provocative title to it - your business I guess...

but again... anything anyone doesn't want to look at - at home, work, a public library or otherwise - they don't have to.
07/21/2003 06:15:28 PM · #80
If someone thinks he/she might get problems at work because a "forbidden" image appears on the computerscreen by accident, I think it should be discussed at work, not on this site.
07/21/2003 06:23:50 PM · #81
Originally posted by kellyrae3:

Actually, Gordon, I made the mistake of clicking on a link of a nude photo. It was a text link. I can't even remember where it was that I clicked. I know that I have not clicked on the nude category while i'm at work. I was also browsing one of the galleries and a photo of a nipple showed up. I think it was in contrasts. And actually there is a photo of someone's breasts in the contrast challenge. It's a thumbnail, that's not hidden. Am I mistaken or is that how it works? Or it's only when the challenge is over? My whole reason for asking is because I don't understand it. Explain it to me. Please.

And yup, I agreed to that. Definitely. Thank you for pointing that out to me.

I also take responsibility for what I look at on the web while at work. That is why I didn't click on the nudes category while here, and also why I'm asking how the 'hide nude photos' option works. Stop arrogantly assuming that I'm asking for changes to the website. I'm asking how it works, that is all. I mentioned the NSFW thing because other sites have 'unoffically' used that system and it works very well.


I'm not 'arrogantly assuming' anything.

I explained how it worked previously.

The hide nude photos says 'Hide Nude Photos - After voting, do not show thumbnails containing nudity.' It does not say 'this hides nude pictures at all times'.

The contrasts challenge is still open for voting.

07/21/2003 06:25:15 PM · #82
When I was 9-14 back in 70's in Yugoslavia,we had no Internet and we had only 3 Government owned censored TV channels.
But the school was flooded with Porno magazines Pirated photos and playing cards,kids were bringing in to show off!
There is no way you can shield kids from information,they will see it elsewhere and those thing will be even more interesting if forbidden!(Forbidden fruits are sweeter)You have to act like nothing unusual is going on on the screen and that is piece of art like other kinds of art!
07/21/2003 06:28:24 PM · #83
Yup Gordon, that is what I didn't understand. Like I said earlier, I'll vote from home.

Edited because I also meant to say, it doesen't matter where you are, at home, at work, at school - nudity is still nudity, you can call it art, but it's still nudity.



Message edited by author 2003-07-21 18:31:03.
07/21/2003 06:32:58 PM · #84
Did you get born with a red t-shirt and jeans?


You are on the plane to London with a hungry newborn...
Would you breastfeed starving baby or that is considered nudity?

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 18:36:18.
07/21/2003 06:35:59 PM · #85
Originally posted by kellyrae3:

Yup Gordon, that is what I didn't understand. Like I said earlier, I'll vote from home.

Edited because I also meant to say, it doesen't matter where you are, at home, at work, at school - nudity is still nudity, you can call it art, but it's still nudity.


I don't quite get your point in the second paragraph. It almost sounds like you think there is something wrong with it, but I really don't know.

Many things are considered art and it doesn't change what they also happen to be - why do you mention it about nudity ?
07/21/2003 06:39:00 PM · #86
Originally posted by pitsaman:

Did you get born with a red t-shirt and jeans?


The point is not to question someone's moral standards and values. The point is that regulation is difficult in that each thing means something different to each culture/person... it depends on their belief system. This means nudity, violence, guns, drugs.... all of it.
The best thing to do is to regulate ourselves.

The Admins on this site have a clear vision of what is allowed here. It is stated in the rules. Anything else is up to you.

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 18:40:13.
07/21/2003 06:54:25 PM · #87
Originally posted by robsmith:



there are 3 that I positively don't think we should be subjected to Do you mind letting us know what they are so we can make our own minds up?


No I will not subject those photos to this thread should Terry decide to share any of them then that is his option as site council but I personally will not singal out any of the photos I find offensive in this forum.

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 18:57:01.
07/21/2003 06:56:12 PM · #88
Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by kellyrae3:



Actually I think that OneSweetSin is taking responsibility for what her children are seeing. Have you not read any of her posts???


How could I not?

Lots of people don't read the forums. In fact, you can turn them off.
07/21/2003 07:00:47 PM · #89
Originally posted by mavrik:

Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by kellyrae3:



Actually I think that OneSweetSin is taking responsibility for what her children are seeing. Have you not read any of her posts???


How could I not?

Lots of people don't read the forums. In fact, you can turn them off.


That wasn't quite my point.
07/21/2003 07:05:56 PM · #90
Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by mavrik:

Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by kellyrae3:



Actually I think that OneSweetSin is taking responsibility for what her children are seeing. Have you not read any of her posts???


How could I not?

Lots of people don't read the forums. In fact, you can turn them off.


That wasn't quite my point.


So what was your point I was like Kelly...it appeared you were saying I wasn't taking responsibility for my child when in fact I would just like to know I could safely click into DPC when he is around and not see stuff that if this was a movie would be PG 17 or maybe even R
07/21/2003 07:11:07 PM · #91
I'm guessing PG-17 is like an 18 cert in the UK. There is a scene in 'Titanic' with a naked woman laying on a sofa. This film is rated a 12 cert (and it also includes violence, and death). The 2nd place photo in nude is just the same as this particular scene. Why would that be rated R?
07/21/2003 07:11:35 PM · #92
By the way, I doubt you'll find many if any pictures on here that would be considered PG-13, by the US rating standard.

PG-13 does not exclude non-sexually-oriented nudity and scenes of drug use

In fact, a PG rating does not exlude nudity either.

So I still really struggle with this idea that people want some sort of rating system put in place, that would have a harsher rating standard than the current US PG rating, which is already much stricter than about any in the world.
07/21/2003 07:12:44 PM · #93
For reference : The US film rating guidelines.

G Rating : General Audience. All ages admitted. This signifies that the film rated contains nothing most parents will consider offensive for even their youngest children to see or hear. Nudity, sex scenes, and scenes of drug use are absent; violence is minimal; snippets of dialogue may go beyond polite conversation but do not go beyond common everyday expressions.

PG Rating: Parental Guidance Suggested. Some material may not be suitable for children. This signifies that the film rated may contain some material parents might not like to expose to their young children - material that will clearly need to be examined or inquired about before children are allowed to attend the film. Explicit sex scenes and scenes of drug use are absent; nudity, if present, is seen only briefly, horror and violence do not exceed moderate levels.

PG-13 Rating : Parents Strongly Cautioned. Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13. This signifies that the film rated may be inappropriate for pre-teens. Parents should be especially careful about letting their younger children attend. Rough or persistent violence is absent; sexually-oriented nudity is generally absent; some scenes of drug use may be seen; one use of the harsher sexually derived words may be heard.

R Rating: Restricted-Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian (age varies in some locations). This signifies that the rating board has concluded that the film rated contains some adult material. Parents are urged to learn more about the film before taking their children to see it. An R may be assigned due to, among other things, a film's use of language, theme, violence, sex or its portrayal of drug use.

NC-17 Rating: No One 17 and Under Admitted. This signifies that the rating board believes that most American parents would feel that the film is patently adult and that children age 17 and under should not be admitted to it. The film may contain explicit sex scenes, an accumulation of sexually-oriented language, or scenes of excessive violence. The NC-17 designation does not, however, signify that the rated film is obscene or pornographic
07/21/2003 07:14:56 PM · #94
I feel that my point was very clearly stated earlier. I'm not sure how I can clarify it further.

If you are going to get in trouble at work because you are looking at something, then don't do it. Cookies for you that you're allowed to surf...if you know there are things here that you don't want to see while at work, then don't look.

Fabulous that your son is home all summer long. If there's a possibility that there are things on this site that you don't want him to see, don't look when he's around. I wasn't speaking specifically to you, although you did say that sometimes things just pop up or whatever, which is easily solved by not looking at the site. And yes, I know you do your voting at night, etc., etc., so no need to rehash that.

Everything is going to be offensive to someone. It's life. You see the photo once to vote and if you don't like it, don't go back. If there are frequently photos on this site that you find offensive, don't come here. Which is generally my attitude towards all sites and all people. I think it's a common occurence, not just on this site, that parents are complaining about the evils of the Internet when in reality, it's their responsibility to monitor what their children see.

In summary, I feel that it would be much easier to just not view the site in areas where you already know there are potential problems than to have the site recoded. So maybe you just can't know that you can safely click around. Or you have to wait until you get home from work.

Is my point clearer now?
07/21/2003 07:16:34 PM · #95
Originally posted by mk:

I feel that my point was very clearly stated earlier. I'm not sure how I can clarify it further.

If you are going to get in trouble at work because you are looking at something, then don't do it. Cookies for you that you're allowed to surf...if you know there are things here that you don't want to see while at work, then don't look.

Fabulous that your son is home all summer long. If there's a possibility that there are things on this site that you don't want him to see, don't look when he's around. I wasn't speaking specifically to you, although you did say that sometimes things just pop up or whatever, which is easily solved by not looking at the site. And yes, I know you do your voting at night, etc., etc., so no need to rehash that.

Everything is going to be offensive to someone. It's life. You see the photo once to vote and if you don't like it, don't go back. If there are frequently photos on this site that you find offensive, don't come here. Which is generally my attitude towards all sites and all people. I think it's a common occurence, not just on this site, that parents are complaining about the evils of the Internet when in reality, it's their responsibility to monitor what their children see.

In summary, I feel that it would be much easier to just not view the site in areas where you already know there are potential problems than to have the site recoded. So maybe you just can't know that you can safely click around. Or you have to wait until you get home from work.

Is my point clearer now?



After reading what you are saying then I suggest we just get rid of the hidden nudity also...why have it obviously you don't feel you are violating anyones rights to a safe and enjoyable time here so lets get rid of all hidden photos and stop hiding the nude photos too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 19:21:14.
07/21/2003 07:20:21 PM · #96
No, actually I'm not sure your point is any clearer at all. And no, I don't feel that I am violating anyone's rights because there aren't any rights involved in this anyway.
07/21/2003 07:26:33 PM · #97
Originally posted by mk:

No, actually I'm not sure your point is any clearer at all. And no, I don't feel that I am violating anyone's rights because there aren't any rights involved in this anyway.


Yes my rights are being violated when I am treated the way I was in this forum. It was merely a suggestion and I didn't need to be told I was being a irresponsible parent for wanting the internet to be a better place and wanting to be able to enjoy this site with my child.

YES my rights for wanting to be able to totally enjoy this site have been violated I was being laughed at cause I simply want the same consideration to be given to me as what is being given to those who don't want to see nude photos.

So I say if I can't be given the right to not see offensive photos why should they have the right to not see nude photos?
07/21/2003 07:27:08 PM · #98
Why have a button to get rid of nudity? Why not have a button to get rid of "offensive" photos? If there's a way to censor nudity there is obviously and easily a way to censor drugs, alcohol and violence.

I don't give a shit either way, but this post is WE TODD ED.

M
07/21/2003 07:30:19 PM · #99
Originally posted by mavrik:

Why have a button to get rid of nudity? Why not have a button to get rid of "offensive" photos? If there's a way to censor nudity there is obviously and easily a way to censor drugs, alcohol and violence.

M


Finally someone sees the light of day here!!!! Why not just make the nudity a generic censoring for photos that are deemed nude, and offensive such as the drugs, alcohol and violence.

07/21/2003 07:34:41 PM · #100

This thread has gone full circle....it needs to die.

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>snip>Everything is going to be offensive to someone
This is so true.
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