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 07/21/2003 09:04:23 AM · #1

"Take a picture that demonstrates contrast, where one element is differentiated from an other by light, structure or other compositional approaches."


This is what I thought the current challenge topic was. No where in this topic does it say that the contrast should be or must be a color contrast. So for those of you that are grading subjects in this challenge based on color contrast please expand your horizons and re-
vote.


Sev
 07/21/2003 09:08:37 AM · #2
are you suggesting that you were marked down because yours was in B&W??
If so, the less polite hortopth will have to have a little rant on here.
 07/21/2003 09:09:25 AM · #3
No, my picture was in different shades of the same color.

I think most people, surprisingly in the member's challenge believe a contrast has to be a contrast between two different colors.

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 09:10:44.
 07/21/2003 09:11:59 AM · #4
Andrew - I'd have thought you'd have been around here long enough to know that a lot of people never read the challenge sub-heading either before submitting or voting. I'd guess they're the same people who never read the forums either. Gotta be obvious to the first and most obvious subject of the challenge to do well, or take a real good shot.

:-)

Ed
 07/21/2003 09:12:01 AM · #5
oh, hope it wasn't me! I think I found just two, where it was starving for contrast. Doesn't sound like yours though.
 07/21/2003 09:14:47 AM · #6
I do know better e301, I just haven't submitted in a while and I must have hoped things have changed. I took a great shot that I wanted to submit. I am just dissapointed in the low 5 it is recieving.

07/21/2003 09:16:34 AM · #7
keep in mind that people may fly through the votes, and if it didn't jump out in the first few seconds, it may have been canned. I almost bagged the photo with the little white house next to the big modern building, because somehow I didn't notice the little white house that was staring me in the face.
 07/21/2003 09:18:16 AM · #8
As someone who purposely chose the less than obvious path to "contrast" I fully expect to get low votes and even "doesn't fit the challenge" comments. Thing is, I took a chance, in more ways than one, and produced a picture that I believe has merit in at least the area of raising discussion and making people think. That's what I was going for here.

Shari

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 09:23:28.
 07/21/2003 09:23:48 AM · #9
uh, oh. It could have been me. Did yours... edit edit edit edit?
Still, I didn't score it low, it was a great shot.

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 10:15:34.
 07/21/2003 09:30:22 AM · #10
Hey Drool, maybe your photo just sucks. :p
 07/21/2003 09:53:09 AM · #11
There are an awful lot of photographs that don't have a second element to contrat their first though, which is causing a bunch of low votes from me :-)

ed
 07/21/2003 09:57:35 AM · #12
I agree with Severin here in that we need to realized that challenges are open to interpretation as much as artistic subjects and elements, but I do feel that this forum is dancing a little too closely to mentioning specific photos.
 07/21/2003 09:59:57 AM · #13
Originally posted by dsidwell:
I agree with Severin here in that we need to realized that challenges are open to interpretation as much as artistic subjects and elements, but I do feel that this forum is dancing a little too closely to mentioning specific photos.


I'm sure a council person will be along in a minute to adjust the appropriate post.

Ed
 07/21/2003 10:04:30 AM · #14
I decided to jump in on this conversation so I can say this. People think just because we had a nude challenge we can't have nude entries in the next several challenges or because we had a round challenge we can't have entries that are round! So when the voting for trends starts and these people who can't see past the name of the challenge won't understand why there are photos with contrasts in them in the trend challenge.

I am saying this cause my temperature entry was nude and I was very offended when I found that the same person made the same comments on a few entries simply becase the person couldn't get enough of a life to realize nude photography doesn't have to be limited to when there is a challenge entitled NUDE PHOTOGRAPHY.

Now as for the contrasts and the b&w photos. I thought there were some lovely b&w photos that showed the contrasts of the different tones. I know one of my two favorites from this challenge is b&w. But I also know I have gotten more than upset on the voting and the lack of ablity to creatively express myself here and I do understand more every day why Setz feels the way he does.

Rule number 1 around here should be open up your imagination before voting!
 07/21/2003 10:06:35 AM · #15
oh, sorry, guess thats a no no...

I actually thought there was a good mix of interpretations... they weren't just all using contrast of shades (as I did)
 07/21/2003 10:11:18 AM · #16
Very, very well said, OneSweetSin. You are absolutely correct. I am new around here, but already I can see what you are talking about.
 07/21/2003 10:12:15 AM · #17
Originally posted by hortopth:
oh, sorry, guess thats a no no...

I actually thought there was a good mix of interpretations... they weren't just all using contrast of shades (as I did)


Just go edit out what you shouldn't have said!
 07/21/2003 10:57:11 AM · #18
To me, the most important element in a photo is the thought process. I look for something that shows me a new way of looking at something along with pleasing composition and skill. Execution of that thought is very important to me. If a photo stirs an emotion whether good or bad and is well executed, it scores a 10+ with me.
There are many levels of contrast. Every photo of any object has contrast with another element. Low contrast does not equal no contrast. If you want to get technical, a photo of a lone snowflake contrasts with the element of air. Of course, this is only my opinion.
 07/21/2003 11:01:37 AM · #19
This guy refuses to vote !


07/21/2003 11:03:27 AM · #20
Originally posted by pitsaman:
This guy refuses to vote !


LOL Kosta and I know the truth you voted! I caught you last night! But I can't say you commented on anything cause I didn't get any comments yet on the contrast challenge.
07/21/2003 11:05:30 AM · #21
If you get 16 ones your photo SUCK,If you get one or two is because someone want to hurt you!

(keeping eggs warm is not temperature,your bird is fake,etc...)

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 11:11:37.
 07/21/2003 11:07:06 AM · #22
Originally posted by pitsaman:
If you get 16 ones your photo SUCK,If you get one or two is because someone want to hurt you!


I think you hit the nail on the head!
 07/21/2003 11:11:21 AM · #23
Originally posted by autool:
Originally posted by pitsaman:
If you get 16 ones your photo SUCK,If you get one or two is because someone want to hurt you!


I think you hit the nail on the head!


Unless it is a good flag photo then you get 16 ones cause it is a flag photo!

Yes I am still a bit bitter over that!

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 11:12:20.
 07/21/2003 11:16:49 AM · #24
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:


Unless it is a good flag photo then you get 16 ones cause it is a flag photo!

Yes I am still a bit bitter over that!


I think we ought to have a flag challenge, then maybe they would get the one thing out of their mind.
 07/21/2003 11:18:40 AM · #25
Originally posted by autool:
Originally posted by pitsaman:
If you get 16 ones your photo SUCK,If you get one or two is because someone want to hurt you!


I think you hit the nail on the head!



Came to the same conclusion a few challenges ago, they never leave comments either. The two low votes which just came in don't help either :( More voter accountability now! (Failing that I'll track 'em down and kneecap 'em)

To all the "that's not contrast" people - I think this challenge has a large number of very good images. Before today I may not have considered some of the ideas to display contrast, which is why I played it safe with my image, but voting on the challenge I've learnt a lot about different styles of contrast. My prior average vote stood at about 4.5, I've only voted 5 photos at 4 in this one (and not because they didn't display contrast), all the others are 5+.

Like many I wasn't too sure what the challenge was asking for, after going all week with one idea showing two contrasting textures I changed at the last minute (well 01:00 BST anyway) for the 'safer' option.

Now on with the commenting...

Message edited by author 2003-07-21 11:25:31.
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