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02/02/2006 03:01:38 AM · #1
Hey everyone, if this has been discussed, just post it and I will go to that thread.

I just got a job doing product photography, and am looking to upgrade from my 300D. I have a few great lenses but would love to move up in the pixel and professionality of the camera. I am at a loss. I love the fact that I can find a 20D for fairly cheap, under 1000, but am really drawn to the 5D's 12.8MP and full size sensor. Unfortunately, it would wipe out my first pay check. I am willing to do that if it's really worth it. I would love to hear from someone who has experience with both cameras and knows the advantages with one over the other.

I appreciate all the help.
02/02/2006 03:44:15 AM · #2
DO IT. buy the 5D I wish I purcahesed the 5D, why on earth would anyone want a crop?

I know some of you do but I think thats crazy.
02/02/2006 04:06:13 AM · #3
Just curious…
In what part of the product photography do you need the soft and vigneting edges of the full size sensor?
02/02/2006 04:08:03 AM · #4
Originally posted by mitähä:

Just curious…
In what part of the product photography do you need the soft and vigneting edges of the full size sensor?


That is all the in the lens he will use. That has nothing to do with teh actual camera. Get great lenses, and you won't see that.
02/02/2006 04:22:05 AM · #5
Originally posted by Brent_Ward:



That is all the in the lens he will use. That has nothing to do with teh actual camera. Get great lenses, and you won't see that.


I thought he was using all the money for the camera?
I would go for the 20D and still have money left for the super HQ lenses…

The only major advantage in the full size sensor is the 'full size view finder'.
Everything else is a disadvantage.
02/02/2006 04:31:54 AM · #6
wow, one paycheck will get a 5D!!
02/02/2006 06:23:26 AM · #7
Let me explain, I recently bought the 50mm f/1.4 and the 70-200mm f/2.8 non-IS and I have the 18-55 lens that came with the 300D and a cheap tokina 28-70 2.8, which the color is off and slow...slow...s...l...o...w...focus if you know what I'm talking about. And I am planning on getting the 16-35mm f/2.8 with my next paycheck. So I have and will be getting good lenses, it's completely up to the camera now on quality, and so I am trying to figure out if I want to splurge and get the better camera now, or wait, get the 20D, pay off some debt, and wait until a few months...hmm...hmm...year or two from now and upgrade to a better one then, like perhaps the 1Ds Mark II (knocking on wood).
02/02/2006 07:09:27 AM · #8
You probably have no use for full frame for product photography (unless you are photographing cars or something really big). 50mm f/1.4 on the 20D should work out great, or the 16-35mm if you need anything wider. I would use the price difference on lights. (I've used my 20D with 50mm f/1.8 and 2 Bowens 500W with a softbox and umbrella for product shots, works fine). I wish I had a full frame camera, but not for product photography, more for landscapes and such.

Good luck.
02/02/2006 07:15:22 AM · #9
If you are looking for wide and if you get the 16-35 you are, you should get the 5D if you can afford it. I have them both and you will not believe the difference on the wide side. The 5D also has many more benifits that I'm sure that you are aware of by now...

If you are like me and are thinking about getting the 5D but just settle for the 20D you will not be happy. You will get the 5D later anyway, so as NIKE says "just do it"
02/02/2006 08:48:13 AM · #10
The 5D is a joy to use, and the extra resolution and larger LCD come in handy for product photography (particularly if you're printing to larger formats). Bear in mind that Canon's replacement for the 20D may be announced this month, though, so you might want to hold off for a few weeks.
02/02/2006 09:22:55 AM · #11
As Shannon posted, wait until the end of February to see what the 20D replacement is like.
I too would think that the 5D would be a great cam for product photography, but the 20D is no slouch either. One big advantage of the 5D is that it will be infinitely easier to focus manually, which can be critical in product shots.
Ya gotta shake your head at the naysayers who bash FF, pointing to the "disadvantages" of using as much of the image circle as possible. Well, if you want to extract all the detail from a projected image, do you start by throwing half of it away?
In product photography, it's often necessary to have a very high level of accurately rendered detail, and the 5D gives that in spades; it's much closer to the 1DMkII in resolution than to the 20D, due in part to an apparently less aggresive AA filter.
All that said, if I were in your shoes, I would hang in a few weeks and see what Canon has in store for us.
02/02/2006 03:07:37 PM · #12
I would like to thank all of you who have given me advice, and great advice at that. I think I will hold on, like several of you have mentioned, and see what the 20D replacement is. With the Rebel XT gaining over 2MP, I am curious if they are going to break the 10MP barrier with the new 20D. I have also been hearing that Canon is hoping to get the FF sensors out and more popular. I hope this is true. Some have said that there is no need for the full 35mm sensor, that is for film, not digital. Well, in film, do they not also have the medium and large format, for those who wish larger prints. It's the same with digital, BIGGER prints, crisper detail, who wouldn't want that ability from their camera?

But again, this reply is mainly to thank all of you for your help, not to go on about the camera.

So...Thanks
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