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02/01/2006 08:49:36 AM · #1
"In photography, panning is a technique used to suggest fast motion and bring out foreground from background. Use this panning technique to create your submission"

OK so maybe I am more visual, anyone want to help me "see" this? Can anyone explain? maybe some examples?
02/01/2006 08:53:44 AM · #2
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Not mine...just happened to notice the other day in a different thread. ;^)
02/01/2006 08:53:48 AM · #3
Not mine. From ACDSEE Community
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Message edited by Manic - please post thumbs or links, not large images.
02/01/2006 08:54:05 AM · #4
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02/01/2006 09:13:11 AM · #5
Got it, Thanks guys!
02/01/2006 09:20:36 AM · #6
Hmm this looks like a pretty difficult challenge. Never tried this technique before. Hopefully I'll come up with something decent. :-)
02/01/2006 09:37:29 AM · #7
The technique is pretty easy.

You put your camera in a mode where you'll have a longish shutter speed (varies depending on subject distance, speed and the amount of blur you want, among other things) 1/30s is often a good starting point - or just 'slowish' You can fake this with an automatic camera by using 'landscape' mode - which often forces a small aperture/ longer exposure.

Then all you do is track a moving subject with the camera, while pressing the shutter smoothly and moving the camera evenly. The idea is to keep the subject in the same part of the scene, so they appear sharp, but the background blurs.

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Message edited by author 2006-02-01 09:37:59.
02/01/2006 10:01:17 AM · #8
wouldnt this be almost impossible for a point & shoot? any fast moving objects i take are always blurry. should i use the action mode?
02/01/2006 10:02:51 AM · #9
the sharper subjects will probably score higher
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Message edited by author 2007-06-22 15:43:54.
02/01/2006 10:05:23 AM · #10
From the last time we had a similar challenge:

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Edit... perhaps I'll give this another go, it could do with some improvement!

Message edited by author 2006-02-01 10:06:32.
02/01/2006 10:11:24 AM · #11
Originally posted by skiprow:

the sharper subjects will probably score higher

but that doesn't mean you can't be creative...


true dat
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02/01/2006 10:14:09 AM · #12
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Know you understand now but just wanted to post this one again.
02/01/2006 10:16:33 AM · #13
these are some great examples

02/01/2006 10:18:19 AM · #14
Originally posted by queanbeez:

wouldnt this be almost impossible for a point & shoot? any fast moving objects i take are always blurry. should i use the action mode?


No, you absolutely don't want 'action mode' for panning. Action mode typically sets the fastest shutter speed/ widest aperture.

The whole point is to get motion blur. The ski-ing shot above was shot with a fully auto point and shoot (Pentax optio s4)

Message edited by author 2006-02-01 10:35:16.
02/01/2006 10:19:52 AM · #15
Originally posted by queanbeez:

wouldnt this be almost impossible for a point & shoot? any fast moving objects i take are always blurry. should i use the action mode?

Sold that DSLR didn't you? ;^)

Actually, I think as long as you are panning at the same speed as the subject the image will be fairly sharp (except for the blurred background of course). Try using shutter priority and set it slower (as someone earlier pointed out 1/30).
02/01/2006 10:38:23 AM · #16
trust me that rebel was too bulky, so i couldnt hold it steady anyway. i had to look up panning!!! now i get it, but i have to learn how to set the shutter speed. i usually only adjust the lighting and ISO, or whatever setting like landscape, portrait, etc.

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by queanbeez:

wouldnt this be almost impossible for a point & shoot? any fast moving objects i take are always blurry. should i use the action mode?

Sold that DSLR didn't you? ;^)

Actually, I think as long as you are panning at the same speed as the subject the image will be fairly sharp (except for the blurred background of course). Try using shutter priority and set it slower (as someone earlier pointed out 1/30).

02/01/2006 11:50:15 AM · #17
Originally posted by queanbeez:

wouldnt this be almost impossible for a point & shoot? any fast moving objects i take are always blurry. should i use the action mode?


you need to pan with the movement. I would try with one of the modes that gives you slower shutter speeds. This will accentuate the blurring of the background - though you do run the risk of blurring the subject if they have lots of motion relative to itself. (confusing). ie. lots of arm and/or leg movememt may blur even though the head is focused or bicycle wheel spokes and legs while pedaling may be blurred, while the bike and body of rider are not. Experiment, experiment.
02/01/2006 12:36:45 PM · #18
Maybe my poor little skater girl would have done better in THIS challenge :-(

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02/01/2006 01:22:48 PM · #19
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Here's one I took just last week - too early for the challenge unfortunately.

Shutter speed was 1/20th second panning along with the rikki using a 50mm lens.
02/01/2006 04:36:06 PM · #20
Tips from a novice
1. set the camera to servo focussing if you have a dslr
2. Do not use the zoom function
3. go with a medium lens
3. choose a fairly slow moving subject
4. start the tracking of the subject early - before they get close to you, press the shutter when they are almost at the nearest point to you (maybe more difficult with a P&S due to prefocussing - choose the best prefocus you can) and continue tracking the subject until they are well past you.
5. Finally and most importantly, ask your god for luck or help.
02/01/2006 05:29:38 PM · #21
Originally posted by p2jvr:

Tips from a novice
1. set the camera to servo focussing if you have a dslr


I tend to set it to manual focus and prefocus on a specific known point. Then fire when the subject is just about over that point.
02/01/2006 05:38:35 PM · #22
I am not sure of my shot for this yet I find sports shots boring:( sorry sports guys but it isnt something I like to look at.
02/01/2006 05:58:54 PM · #23
Here are some examples I took for the wildlife of motion blurring:

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Edit to add:

i used Servo for the focusing, set the ISO to 100 and aperture to f/2.8, and that gave me ~1/1000s of shutter speed, but these birds were flying fast. I guess with a smaller aperture (f/4.5 or so) I would have gotten more motion blur and less DOF which would be better for the paning challenge. And better background, too.

Message edited by author 2006-02-01 18:01:11.
02/01/2006 06:01:39 PM · #24
Originally posted by srdanz:

Here are some examples I took for the wildlife of motion blurring:

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I don't see these as motion blur. The first one has a shutter speed of 1/5000 second, its going to be a super fast pan to get that to blur through motion.

They appear to be shallow depth of field images
02/01/2006 06:09:52 PM · #25
I thought I read (in a previous discussion), that adding the blur during processing was ok due to some technical disadvantages for those with less bells and whistles on their cameras...is that the case for this challenge as well?
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