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01/08/2006 09:20:47 AM · #1 |
How do you store your pictures? My hard disk is full. I am planing to store them into CD and make back-up(duplicate CD) each of them. What is your style of taking backup?
Please share your idea.
Thank you,
Rudra. |
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01/08/2006 09:23:26 AM · #2 |
| I tend to use DVD-R's now for my photo storage, especially since buying my SLR and using RAW! |
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01/08/2006 09:28:31 AM · #3 |
| Is it your PC/Laptop hard drive that's full? Try an external hard drive. Their pretty reasonably priced now. Here is 1 example. I'm sure there is cheaper out there. That's just 1 example. How to use it? Couldn't be easier. Plug it into your USB port and it becomes another folder. A big folder though. |
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01/08/2006 09:29:26 AM · #4 |
| 120 GB external drive, just for photo's. |
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01/08/2006 09:32:48 AM · #5 |
| and 2 copys of that! because you don't want your only hardrive to crash with all your pictures :) |
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01/08/2006 09:42:23 AM · #6 |
If you're looking to backup your pictures and free some room on your HD, I would advise you to invest in a big external (usb2,0 or firewire) harddisk and keep it in a safe place when not in use.
I'm anal when it comes down to storing my pictures.
Main storage = two harddisks in a RAID1 setup on Windows system
Backup #1 = 250Gb Hd on Apple iMac, synchronized at least every week
Backup #2 = USB external HD, same freq.
Backup #3 = monthly DVD-R which goes into safe deposit box at the bank.
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01/08/2006 10:30:28 AM · #7 |
I backup all photos to CD-R or DVD-R as soon as I've finished a days shooting. (Since I shoot RAW, I don't worry about overwriting the files, so sometimes I wait a few days and then I can use a DVD-R and not waste.)
I then keep two folder trees available:
Captures
Masters
Captures are photos not yet prepared for use. Masters are photos given names, and prepared for presentation on the web. (This excludes personal, family photos--they have their own tree.)
I also regularly back up the Masters folder tree. Occaisionally, I'll do an additional full back up including "Captures"
But despite a generous amount of space, with 8MP RAW files and a lot of big PSD files, I am exceeding reasonable amounts of space which causes these to be a burden.
So I've started going through and deleting "captures" that I don't think I'll ever use. My goal is to try and reduce captures down to 9GB or so for any given year, long term, and to rely on the DVD-R media should I decide I want to go back and process a shot from a set that wasn't processed before.
The key there is to find good index software. I index all my data backups using whereisit, and it's a nice program, but if you want it to produce thumbnails of RAW files, it's really slow to catalog. So I use thumbsplus (from Cerious) for thumbnailing offline (as well as my online files). BTW - I started looking at other cataloging programs for offline media to see if any are better, but never finished due to getting really busy at work again (I started a thread on this that you can find). Maybe next summer!
In any case, the key to my management plan is to keep all my "masters" online, and most of the files in past years of "captures" offline (but indexed)! (I've also played with/considered removing the Captured RAWs and keeping a small JPEG online in its place. That makes it easy to catalog and find using any online catalog program. If you need to find the original RAW, you need only find the same file name on DVD-R, which whereisit does very well!)
One other thing: I rename all my files after capture. I use the capture number as a unique key. This means that after you turn over 9999 on your camera, you need to start renaming and adding a digit to cover 10,000 to 19,999. I do that using the rename facility of my conversion programs (Bibble and RSP). With multiple cameras, I prefix the number with a letter for that camera.
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01/08/2006 10:44:10 AM · #8 |
Yes, an external drive is one easy way to back up. When my computer became corrupted not long ago, and I knew reformatting the HD was in the cards, I bought a 300Gb Maxor Hard Drive (USB)for around $200 at ZipZoomFly.com.
Now, and with great thanks to a friend who understands this stuff, I'm completely backed up and updated once a day. And have a nice, clean computer.
Nice. |
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01/09/2006 07:24:59 PM · #9 |
Great advice nshapiro!
What about stock cataloguing? any recomendations for a software that would let me serch by keywords, categories, thumbnails, etc. and also allow me to edit the metadata (IPTC?) and wouldn't disrupt the original order of my filing system? something pro, but not at pro costs?
I tried QPict but had problems, namely - I couldnt delete files from the qpict catalogue without also deleting it from my comp! also, it corrupted a dozen of my best RAW images (example of why we backup our work ;) |
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01/09/2006 07:39:26 PM · #10 |
I just went and invested in an ASUS 1608-P DVD double-layer writer (PC Mag Editors Choice). It was about $70.
Storage is 4.75gb on std media and 8+GB on double layer media.
The double-layer technology is quite new so the media is not bundled in quantity yet. They still want $9.95 per single disk. It's a bit like the early days of LCD monitors, the quality failure rate during manufacturing was 60% (yup they threw out 6 of every 10 made) so that's what kept the costs up for so long.
Brett
Message edited by author 2006-01-09 19:40:05. |
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01/09/2006 08:00:00 PM · #11 |
| I just bought a 1Tb Network storage box, RAID5, gigabit ethernet. Now all I need to do is work out how to back it up... |
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01/09/2006 08:20:32 PM · #12 |
i shoot only raw and save only in uncompressed tiff. then if need be a jpg.froom the tiff...
so yeah i have a 250GB Lacie exturnal HD.
and every mounth i burn all the shots and edits from the mounth (by day and date lables) 2 maxell DVDs (stand. 4.7 GB) if need be they break into to disc a mounth.
i will leave the last 6 mounths or so on the HD for safty reasons. dvds and cds are not forever so every 2 years i plan on burning a new set of discs off the old 1s....but other wise i store them out of light and sun light (UV can wipe a discclean of all the info by causing the dyes to decay.
also i don't store them in cases as the risk of cracking the disc at the hub is to great. i store them in 60 disc. slip case container.
thats th full deal right there.
god i miss negitives so simple (keep out of fire and don't scratch) hehe
_bran(GL with what ever u discide to do)do_
also rescerch the dyes of discs not all disc are equal and the life time is something u nee so try to stick with the highest grade cd/dvd u can afford. and burn at your slowest setting for greater reliability. |
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01/09/2006 08:35:53 PM · #13 |
This is one of the biggest flaws of digital photography. There is no 100% safe way to backup your photos.
DVDs and CD-ROMs get scratched, HDs get corrupted, etc.
Backing up to an external HD can save your day, but in the long run, it's not safe. Drop it on the floor and the HD is ruined, you take it close to a magnet and the data is corrupted. Hardcopy of the picture is more safe, if you keep it out of light and away from anything that can scratch it.
Currently I'm going through my grandfather's slides and scanning them so I can make them available on the web for the rest of the family to enjoy. This made me wonder: will my grandchildren be able to browse through my files and view pictures I've taken, or will it all be gone and lost forever? I'm pretty sure however that my grandchildren will be able to view my grandfather's slides and see what the world looked like then. |
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01/09/2006 09:46:52 PM · #14 |
In order of daily use to "oh **** my world is coming to an end!!!"
in progress work: laptop hard drive NTFS partition.
rapid retreval: external hard drive stored onsite.
slightly worse: event disks I burn before I pack out.
moderate: sequential backup CD's.
sever oops: off site comprehensive backup (updated 2-3 times a year stored in a secure, dark, climate controlled location)
"oh ****...": off site backup of some of my favorites only at a friends place 500 miles away on a server farm with its own backup methodologies.
I have had hard drives fail, can you tell? :-)
edit: doesn't like multiple spaces
Message edited by author 2006-01-09 21:47:35. |
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01/09/2006 10:20:43 PM · #15 |
| just finished loading them on my new 250GB external hard drive..yipeee... |
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01/09/2006 10:30:32 PM · #16 |
i keep them on my laptop & desktop computer and backup on dvd's and external 260 gb hard drive and backup on my ipod. Backup on iPod cause whenever I need them I always have them.
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01/09/2006 10:43:59 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Tom_Robbrecht:
If you're looking to backup your pictures and free some room on your HD, I would advise you to invest in a big external (usb2,0 or firewire) harddisk and keep it in a safe place when not in use.
I'm anal when it comes down to storing my pictures.
Main storage = two harddisks in a RAID1 setup on Windows system
Backup #1 = 250Gb Hd on Apple iMac, synchronized at least every week
Backup #2 = USB external HD, same freq.
Backup #3 = monthly DVD-R which goes into safe deposit box at the bank. |
I sure hope you have an armed guard posted by your safe deposit box at all times and those hard drives are encrypted. |
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01/09/2006 10:51:48 PM · #18 |
I use a 300 GB Maxtor One Touch external USB HD to backup three times a week. I'm now also writing DVD's for longterm storage.
Message edited by author 2006-01-09 22:52:56. |
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01/10/2006 06:45:55 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Tom_Robbrecht:
If you're looking to backup your pictures and free some room on your HD, I would advise you to invest in a big external (usb2,0 or firewire) harddisk and keep it in a safe place when not in use.
I'm anal when it comes down to storing my pictures.
Main storage = two harddisks in a RAID1 setup on Windows system
Backup #1 = 250Gb Hd on Apple iMac, synchronized at least every week
Backup #2 = USB external HD, same freq.
Backup #3 = monthly DVD-R which goes into safe deposit box at the bank. |
For those profressionals out there please note the above, Its just pc hard drives and not pure backup. Proper backup servers are more independant and are not viable to corruption from the pc your running.
I reccomend buying a proper backup system if you are really bothered, this would be a tape drive system, purpose built backup, not harddrives. I have harddrives like you, dvdr's and usb. But its not the best way. Tapedrives are.
Also cdrs only last 3 to 5 years according to latest news I read today on slashdot or somewhere. Just believe me a scientist said on cheaper ones this happens and its hard to know the best cdrs are (I cant find the link in history, its too large). I think mine are ok on the dvd front because there mitusbishi dye.
So recapping:
TRUE BACKUP = 20GB TAPEDRIVE SYSTEMS, SUCH AS:
//www.dabs.com/productlist.aspx?&NavigationKey=11157&CategorySelectedId=11157&PageMode=2
If your not uk, too bad, everyone likes to post there american currency based posts with never a thought for anyone else, so heres a uk currency one! yay! lets all rang on about newegg now
Message edited by author 2006-01-10 18:58:09. |
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01/12/2006 12:19:11 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by eyeronik:
Originally posted by Tom_Robbrecht:
If you're looking to backup your pictures and free some room on your HD, I would advise you to invest in a big external (usb2,0 or firewire) harddisk and keep it in a safe place when not in use.
I'm anal when it comes down to storing my pictures.
Main storage = two harddisks in a RAID1 setup on Windows system
Backup #1 = 250Gb Hd on Apple iMac, synchronized at least every week
Backup #2 = USB external HD, same freq.
Backup #3 = monthly DVD-R which goes into safe deposit box at the bank. |
For those profressionals out there please note the above, Its just pc hard drives and not pure backup. Proper backup servers are more independant and are not viable to corruption from the pc your running.
I reccomend buying a proper backup system if you are really bothered, this would be a tape drive system, purpose built backup, not harddrives. I have harddrives like you, dvdr's and usb. But its not the best way. Tapedrives are.
Also cdrs only last 3 to 5 years according to latest news I read today on slashdot or somewhere. Just believe me a scientist said on cheaper ones this happens and its hard to know the best cdrs are (I cant find the link in history, its too large). I think mine are ok on the dvd front because there mitusbishi dye.
So recapping:
TRUE BACKUP = 20GB TAPEDRIVE SYSTEMS, SUCH AS:
//www.dabs.com/productlist.aspx?&NavigationKey=11157&CategorySelectedId=11157&PageMode=2
If your not uk, too bad, everyone likes to post there american currency based posts with never a thought for anyone else, so heres a uk currency one! yay! lets all rang on about newegg now |
Here is that link regarding the cd lifespan you mentioned: MSN PC World
Message edited by author 2006-01-12 00:21:47. |
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