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01/16/2006 01:12:23 PM · #126 |
I've also just noticed this problem when I used the browser back button to go back to the last image I voted on and changed the vote. It then showed up on the following image. I changed the vote on the new image to the one I wanted to give and then the next image suggested for voting was the one I changed my vote on. I then just went back to the DPC main page and re-entered the challenge I was voting on w/out any further problems.
I am using Microsoft Win XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 2
and Firefox 1.0
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01/16/2006 01:15:13 PM · #127 |
Yeah im on the same but using Firefox 1.5, if you leave your back button alone on your browser you'll be fine but I gotta admit my large mouse thumb button does slip from time to time which makes me go and check what I voted... Could prve challenging in the Best of 2005 voting.
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01/16/2006 01:31:56 PM · #128 |
To anyone having a voting problem. Please let me know if you are having a voting problem NOT described by at least one of the conditions below:
1. I am voting in multiple frames or tabs at the same time. When I go to an image, a previous vote and (if applicable) comment is already present. If I click on the challenge title to go back to the main thumbnail page, that vote has not yet been recorded.
2. I am voting in a single window using the Safari web browser, but am experiencing the same symptoms described in #1 above.
3. I voted on an image, then changed my mind and clicked on a new score. The next image that came up showed the 2nd vote I clicked and (if applicable) the comment from the previous image. If I click on the challenge title to go back to the main thumbnail page, that vote and comment WAS recored on the 2nd image
4. I double-click (rather than single-clicking) on my vote numbers and occasionally experience the same symptoms described in #3 above.
5. Clicking the back button and changing a vote takes me to images on which I have already voted. Going back to the thumbnail page resolves this.
6. Once I have completed voting, I am taken to images on which I already voted.
IF YOU ARE EXPERIENCING A VOTING PROBLEM NOT DESCRIBED ABOVE, please reply and describe it. Please include your browser and OS (and versions for both) in your description.
Also, If you are using Safari and NOT experiencing #2, please reply here and let me know.
Thanks,
Terry
Message edited by author 2006-01-16 13:34:21.
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01/16/2006 01:36:52 PM · #129 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Is there anyone having this problem who is NOT using multiple tabs/windows to vote?
Also, if you are having this problem, please indicate what browser and OS you are using (including versions for both) |
Using, Mozilla 1.7.12, on XP SP2. I usually don't vote using multiple windows or tabs and have been having issues that forced me to start voting in tabs.
To answer the last post several of use are having this problem:
"From the Thumbnail page I am trying to make a second pass on my votes and if I click on the number under an image it won't register the vote. I click refresh and the image is still in the same vote section. If I go into the image to change the vote it takes 20-30 seconds to load."
Message edited by author 2006-01-16 13:39:10. |
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01/16/2006 01:49:14 PM · #130 |
Originally posted by _eug:
Using, Mozilla 1.7.12, on XP SP2. I usually don't vote using multiple windows or tabs and have been having issues that forced me to start voting in tabs.
To answer the last post several of use are having this problem:
"From the Thumbnail page I am trying to make a second pass on my votes and if I click on the number under an image it won't register the vote. I click refresh and the image is still in the same vote section. If I go into the image to change the vote it takes 20-30 seconds to load." |
If you stop voting in tabs, does the problem go away?
When you click on a vote (from the thumbnail page) to change it, does the frame around the image turn red or green (as appropriate) or does it just stay black?
If you forced-refresh (ctrl-F5) does your new vote show?
~Terry
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01/16/2006 01:52:59 PM · #131 |
Windows XP SP2, IE 6.0
After voting on 108 of 109 entries in the Singled Out challenge, voting stays on 99%, whereas before it would say 100%, obviously not counting my own entry. It seems that it does now, so I am not able to reach 100% votes cast. Hope this is useful. |
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01/16/2006 02:48:15 PM · #132 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by _eug:
Using, Mozilla 1.7.12, on XP SP2. I usually don't vote using multiple windows or tabs and have been having issues that forced me to start voting in tabs.
To answer the last post several of use are having this problem:
"From the Thumbnail page I am trying to make a second pass on my votes and if I click on the number under an image it won't register the vote. I click refresh and the image is still in the same vote section. If I go into the image to change the vote it takes 20-30 seconds to load." |
If you stop voting in tabs, does the problem go away?
When you click on a vote (from the thumbnail page) to change it, does the frame around the image turn red or green (as appropriate) or does it just stay black?
If you forced-refresh (ctrl-F5) does your new vote show? |
I only vote in tabs because the images take 20-30 seond to load vs. 4-5 before the change. Does the problem go away? No. During second pass when I click on the number under an image on the thumbnail screen, the vote doesn't register. Regardless of whether, I hit F5 or -F5, it's not registering the vote change.
I'm on 6Mbit broadband and having no speed issues with other sites. To repeat, I don't normally vote in tabs and have only started since these changes were made due to the load times being rediculously slow (regardless of the time of day).
I'm tempted to only do first pass voting and forget about commenting unless there is something to comment on during first pass. |
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01/16/2006 03:44:50 PM · #133 |
Just thought I'd chime in. I'm having a more sinister problem than mentioned earlier with making a second pass using the Thumbnail page (although maybe I missed it). Not only are some of my votes not registering, but some of my votes are being assigned to the wrong photos. If it matters, I am using the restricted view to see only those photos I've scored, say, 9. I am not using multiple pages or browsers in any way.
Linux, Firefox 1.5 |
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01/16/2006 03:52:02 PM · #134 |
Originally posted by ayshih:
Just thought I'd chime in. I'm having a more sinister problem than mentioned earlier with making a second pass using the Thumbnail page (although maybe I missed it). Not only are some of my votes not registering, but some of my votes are being assigned to the wrong photos. If it matters, I am using the restricted view to see only those photos I've scored, say, 9. I am not using multiple pages or browsers in any way.
Linux, Firefox 1.5 |
I am also having similar issues. I will vote on one photo (sometimes it does not register - sometimes it takes a while). The next photo will come up and it already has a vote registred. I have clicked on a link to one particular score (say 5) and there are photos in that group that I had never voted on.
Bumping a photo up also causes issues - similar to above.
Hitting the back button to change a vote causes me to see photos I have already voted on.
Very frustrating with so many photos to vote on in the best of 2005 group. I need to check all the photos already voted on to make sure they have the correct vote.
I am using Firefox, WinXP.
Message edited by author 2006-01-16 18:01:24.
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01/16/2006 04:47:50 PM · #135 |
| I thought I was doing something wrong as this is one of the first times I have been actively involved in voting. It was frustrating me with when I press the back button I have to go back over all the ones that already have my votes |
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01/16/2006 04:54:07 PM · #136 |
I also am getting the odd time when I get an image I have already voted on (the score is still there also). Apart from that it seems slower than normal the last few days (not my connection as I am running about the same speed).
On FF 1.5. |
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01/16/2006 05:04:54 PM · #137 |
Originally posted by robs:
I also am getting the odd time when I get an image I have already voted on (the score is still there also). Apart from that it seems slower than normal the last few days (not my connection as I am running about the same speed).
On FF 1.5. |
Please ee my post at 1:31 PM above. Is your problem described in that post? If not, I need to know your operating system and version as well.
~Terry
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01/16/2006 05:22:35 PM · #138 |
| I like the changes. I think the progress bars are a wonderful idea. |
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01/16/2006 06:05:44 PM · #139 |
Windows XP SP2, Firefox 1.0.7
Problems:
- Using the "back" button and changing votes inconsistently results in images I've already voted on coming up. The already-voted images that come up seem to have the same numerical vote as the one that I pressed the "back" button to change - i.e., I hit "back" and change a vote to 7, and then the next image is one I already voted 7.
- Commenting on images inconsistently results in the comment and vote of that image being imported to the next image that loads. This occasionally results in the comment being removed from the original image. I have not determined a pattern to this bug.
- Votes are sometimes misrecorded. One picture I know I voted 7 was showing up as being voted something else. Again, I've noticed no pattern.
Good luck on this one - it looks like it's tricky! And thanks for all your administrative efforts. |
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01/16/2006 06:24:43 PM · #140 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by robs:
I also am getting the odd time when I get an image I have already voted on (the score is still there also). Apart from that it seems slower than normal the last few days (not my connection as I am running about the same speed).
On FF 1.5. |
Please ee my post at 1:31 PM above. Is your problem described in that post? If not, I need to know your operating system and version as well.
~Terry |
Does not describe what I see. I vote on two machines (both via FF 1.5 [with many tabs open but only one for voting and maybe a couple with conversations I want to read ion more detail - the rest are other sites], one Win XP Home SP2 and the other Win XP Pro SP1 I believe) and click on the first of the unvoted images to continue. The Win Home is current for patches and stuff but the XP Pro is pretty old as it's a corporate setup I cannot update. FF is up to date with patches on both.
I sometimes see a pic I already voted on in the same session and sometimes in a different session. I have not really noticed much of a repeatable pattern but will watch for it in the next round of voting I do. |
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01/16/2006 06:36:42 PM · #141 |
Just a minor one:
Linux, Firefox 1.5
If you don't have the "automatically log me in" checkbox checked and your session times out while voting, your next attempt to vote will cause an error.
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01/16/2006 08:09:48 PM · #142 |
I am completely supportive of the changes made to the voting page, or at least I would be if they worked consistently.
It is clear there are persistent bugs that are proving difficult to hunt down and kill. In the mean time, they're causing a lot of people grief and extra work and creating misleading comments and votes to be posted to the wrong images.
Please fall back to the prior voting page. It worked reliably. Then reimplement the changes when they are completely debugged. |
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01/16/2006 08:22:37 PM · #143 |
Originally posted by Digital Quixote:
I am completely supportive of the changes made to the voting page, or at least I would be if they worked consistently.
It is clear there are persistent bugs that are proving difficult to hunt down and kill. In the mean time, they're causing a lot of people grief and extra work and creating misleading comments and votes to be posted to the wrong images.
Please fall back to the prior voting page. It worked reliably. Then reimplement the changes when they are completely debugged. |
Due to changes made to the database to support the current version, I'm not sure that's practical.
~Terry
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01/16/2006 09:55:16 PM · #144 |
Originally posted by ayshih:
Just thought I'd chime in. I'm having a more sinister problem than mentioned earlier with making a second pass using the Thumbnail page (although maybe I missed it). Not only are some of my votes not registering, but some of my votes are being assigned to the wrong photos. If it matters, I am using the restricted view to see only those photos I've scored, say, 9. I am not using multiple pages or browsers in any way.
Linux, Firefox 1.5 |
Since I am a bit wary of voting with these freaky bugs, I decided to try to do a little more characterization of the bugs (at least the one that's currently affecting me worst), in case that helps anyone who can fix this. It appears that as long as I change the vote of only one photo, and refresh without changing anything else, then the vote is logged correctly. The bug seems to only kick in (quite frequently) if I try to change two or more votes before refreshing. |
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01/16/2006 10:03:27 PM · #145 |
I just realized why I've been interacting somewhat awkwardly with the voting page - the voting bar is no longer on both the top and the bottom; it's only on the bottom.
I very strongly prefer having it both on the top and bottom! Please bring it back!
Thank you!
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01/16/2006 10:10:46 PM · #146 |
Originally posted by mycelium:
I just realized why I've been interacting somewhat awkwardly with the voting page - the voting bar is no longer on both the top and the bottom; it's only on the bottom.
I very strongly prefer having it both on the top and bottom! Please bring it back!
Thank you! |
The voting bar at the top was removed intentionally, due to its use to "speed vote" images before they load completely.
~Terry
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01/16/2006 10:11:13 PM · #147 |
Originally posted by mycelium:
I very strongly prefer having it both on the top and bottom! Please bring it back!
Thank you! |
It was moved to the bottom to:
--Save vertical space for people with smaller displays
--Minimize "speed-voting" where people select a vote before the photo has even fully loaded. |
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01/17/2006 12:06:00 AM · #148 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by Digital Quixote:
I am completely supportive of the changes made to the voting page, or at least I would be if they worked consistently.
It is clear there are persistent bugs that are proving difficult to hunt down and kill. In the mean time, they're causing a lot of people grief and extra work and creating misleading comments and votes to be posted to the wrong images.
Please fall back to the prior voting page. It worked reliably. Then reimplement the changes when they are completely debugged. |
Due to changes made to the database to support the current version, I'm not sure that's practical.
~Terry |
Practical or not, if it is causing votes to be associated with the wrong photos, and comments to be associated with the wrong photos, the results of the voting will not represent the votes that were intended.
I have personally experienced both the wrong vote and wrong comment problem using a Dell, Windows XP, IE 6 machine ... a vanilla configuration common to the DPC population.
In my view, this is a serious breach of voting integrity and will certainly call into question the validity of the results. Difficult or not, practical or not, I believe D&L need to restore the previously working voting/commenting processes in order to preserve the integrity of the results and of the site.
This is so important, I would be in favor of suspending voting until it's fixed. I can hear the groans now, but I would even support discarding all votes cast to date and asking folks to revote from scratch.
Message edited by author 2006-01-17 00:06:50. |
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01/17/2006 12:09:57 AM · #149 |
Bason on my testing, in most cases the VOTE issue is a display issue and not an actual miscast vote issue. I was only able to create one scenario where a vote is actually miscast, and that is if the voter selects a vote, then changes his mind and clicks another score (or the same one again) before the next page comes up.
All other instances cause the previous vote and comment to be DISPLAYED on the vote page, but not actually RECORDED, though if the user does not delete the comment, the comment will be recorded along with the vote actually case.
~Terry
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01/17/2006 12:15:15 AM · #150 |
Originally posted by ayshih:
Just thought I'd chime in. I'm having a more sinister problem than mentioned earlier with making a second pass using the Thumbnail page (although maybe I missed it). Not only are some of my votes not registering, but some of my votes are being assigned to the wrong photos. If it matters, I am using the restricted view to see only those photos I've scored, say, 9. I am not using multiple pages or browsers in any way.
Linux, Firefox 1.5 |
I noticed the same problem when I was voting on the Burst of Color Challenge.
I do a first pass on all the photos, bucketing in 4,5,and 6.
I then used the "view all 6's" option, because that top 'bucket' will all get promoted to 7, 8, or 9.
I noticed that if, in the thumbnail viewer, I click on the 7,8, or 9 to bump up the score, the border of the photo would change to green, indicating the change was made. However, if I refresh the page all my votes are back where they were originally. Same if I close the browser and re-open. I can't seem to make those votes 'stick.' I have to go to the individual images and bump up from there.
This was using XP SP2 and IE6.
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