How much money does DPC make ? - DPChallenge Forums

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

12/16/2005 10:08:33 AM · #1

I work for a publically funded company, and we have to put out quarterly financial statements by law. I'd be interested to see a balance sheet for DPC.

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by e301:
Just for once, wouldn't it be nice if there was something fun and fulfilling to participate in which didn't eventually become considered a machine for making money.

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I'm sure if we could find a benefactor who would be willing to pay for the server costs and the thousands of dollars in monthly bandwidth expenses, not to mention for the ever-increasing amount of time that Drew and Langdon need to put into maintaining and improving the site, we wouldn't have to worry about such things as revenue. Until then, we need to pay attention to that.

Fortunately for you and everyone else, we've found the best way to make money is to provide a positive experience for the community as a whole, and that's where our focus is. What is the best thing to do for the community is almost always the best business decision as well.

~Terry

-edit for those too lazy to read the thread...

My opinion:
YES to D&L reaping profits.
NO to SC members referring to us as a charity cases and telling us to just be thankful for D&L's kindness.

If you don't understand my NO stance, read my previous posts.

Message edited by author 2005-12-17 09:03:15.

alfresco

Nikon D700

12/16/2005 10:14:12 AM · #2

locked

;0

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

12/16/2005 10:16:20 AM · #3

We're members, not shareholders...don't see it happening. If I were D&L it would remain my little secret. ;^)

12/16/2005 10:19:32 AM · #4

I don't know the exact numbers, but there are like 83 pages (30 members each) of paid members. If each of those paid $25 that would be $62,325 yearly income. That is assigning a year's membership to everyone of those blue shirts.

Please note, this is not some super secret Admin/SC only info I have. I simply went to the photog's profile page and counted.

Also, I have no idea what the overhead and cost of the site is.

AND to put the 83 pages of paid members in prospective, there are 1557 pages of nonpaid members.

12/16/2005 10:19:37 AM · #5

It would be interesting to take a stab at figuring out.

[((Memberships * $25)/12) + DPC Prints income] - [monthly server costs] = ?

edit - added DPC Prints income to above

Message edited by author 2005-12-16 10:26:11.

12/16/2005 10:20:54 AM · #6

Originally posted by karmat:

AND to put the 83 pages of paid members in prospective, there are 1557 pages of nonpaid members.

Please don't hijack.

edit - nevermind... oops

Message edited by author 2005-12-16 10:59:08.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

12/16/2005 10:21:06 AM · #7

Originally posted by glad2badad:

We're members, not shareholders...don't see it happening. If I were D&L it would remain my little secret. ;^)

If I were a betting woman, I would put money on this site generating very little income for Drew and Langdon.

wewillexplore

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

12/16/2005 10:21:10 AM · #8

Originally posted by karmat:

Don't forget dpcprints - both bandwidth and income. ;)

Though I think the answer is NOYFB.

Tamron SP AF 24-135mm f/3.5-5.6 AD Aspherical IF for Canon

12/16/2005 10:23:02 AM · #9

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by karmat:
AND to put the 83 pages of paid members in prospective, there are 1557 pages of nonpaid members.

Please don't hijack.

Sorry, wasn't trying to hijack. Just didn't want someone to see the 83 pages and think that it was a lot.

And yes, I did not include dpcprints because I know absolutely nothing about the numbers there. (My sales certainly haven't generated a lot of income for the site. hahahaha)

nards656

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

12/16/2005 10:24:37 AM · #10

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by karmat:
AND to put the 83 pages of paid members in prospective, there are 1557 pages of nonpaid members.

Please don't hijack.

I think the point was that the bandwidth / resources consumed by those 1557 pages costs money, too. That would affect the equation that determines the answer to your question.

Private enterprise. Private ownership. Profits NOMFB.

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

12/16/2005 10:27:26 AM · #11

Originally posted by karmat:

... If each of those paid $25 that would be $62,325 yearly income. That is assigning a year's membership to everyone of those blue shirts. ...

When I renewed last month I noticed the $5 per month plan available (had forgotten about that). Wonder how many people use it to "check it out" for a month or two?

wewillexplore

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

12/16/2005 10:28:47 AM · #12

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by karmat:
AND to put the 83 pages of paid members in prospective, there are 1557 pages of nonpaid members.

Please don't hijack.

It's not really - those are the freeloaders. You need to consider 45,000 freeloaders. [Including SC ;)] Each of those freeloaders contributes challenges and bandwidth while voting and basically everything that goes on here. SC even gets portfolio space that we pay for. I think it's relevant too..

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

12/16/2005 10:38:39 AM · #13

Originally posted by mavrik:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by karmat:
AND to put the 83 pages of paid members in prospective, there are 1557 pages of nonpaid members.

Please don't hijack.

It's not really - those are the freeloaders. You need to consider 45,000 freeloaders. [Including SC ;)] Each of those freeloaders contributes challenges and bandwidth while voting and basically everything that goes on here. SC even gets portfolio space that we pay for. I think it's relevant too..

OK, I retract my 'please don't hijack' post in this context.

wewillexplore

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

12/16/2005 10:39:27 AM · #14

"in this context"

*looks for the appropriate slipmoticon*

"in this context"

Message edited by author 2005-12-16 10:41:43.

LoudDog

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

12/16/2005 10:44:11 AM · #15

I've wondered the same thing myself and did rough calculations as Karmat did.

I'm sure there is profit coming in somewhere to someone, and I think that is great. D&L came up with the concept, put the work into it, made it great, they deserve some $$$ for it.

Matthew

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Peleng 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye MC In M42 Mount

12/16/2005 10:50:22 AM · #16

Originally posted by mavrik:

It's not really - those are the freeloaders.

or "unpaid content providers".

Canon EOS-20D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

12/16/2005 10:51:51 AM · #17

I'm not sure what the site makes overall. My salary since I started on the SC has gone up from $22K to $24K, which, unfortunately, is still not quite enough to pay the bills so I still have a day job as well. I'm hoping for a raise in membership fee so that our salaries can be kicked up a bit.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

12/16/2005 10:52:56 AM · #18

Originally posted by louddog:

I'd like to think they're making a profit, the more the batter, IMO, as I've surely got my $25-worth out of DPC. I'm not saying they shouldn't profit, they probably deserve to profit more than they do. I think they should even think about raising the fee if they can figure out where the top of the curve is.

wavelength

Nikon D300

12/16/2005 10:53:13 AM · #19

I think for extra revenue generation, D&L should charge for auto-slipmoticons in the new post actions. (and smileys) ;O)

12/16/2005 10:53:47 AM · #20

24K?????

Hey, why do you make more than me? My salary has stayed at 23K now for some time. Of course those monthly bonuses for locking/deleting threads is probably what puts you over the top.

;)

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

12/16/2005 10:56:36 AM · #21

Originally posted by karmat:

24K?????

Hey, why do you make more than me? My salary has stayed at 23K now for some time. Of course those monthly bonuses for locking/deleting threads is probably what puts you over the top.

;)

Looks like you're not in the inner-circle of the SC. :-P

wavelength

Nikon D300

12/16/2005 10:56:59 AM · #22

Originally posted by karmat:

24K?????

Hey, why do you make more than me? My salary has stayed at 23K now for some time. Of course those monthly bonuses for locking/deleting threads is probably what puts you over the top.

;)

Man, CJ and GE should make a killing then.

nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah!

rich

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

12/16/2005 10:57:04 AM · #23

Originally posted by mavrik:

Believe it or not, you and any other member (including myself) are not paying for any of the registered users.

What you are paying for is membership. For $25 a year you have purchased a laundry list of additional benefits a registered user does not get. That $25 goes into Drew and lang's budget and they decide what to do with it.

Drew and Lang use a signficant portion of their money to offer free registration and a limited subset of features to anyone who wishes to participate. That's a good business model. Try before you buy. Generate interest annd eventually some of those registered users become members.

There are no 'freeloaders'. There are many people who are using this site and their registered user status on a freely offered, freely accepted basis. There is nothing wrong with that.