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12/06/2005 10:25:03 AM · #76 |
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
She's Attractive: "She's built like a brick shithouse." |
Someone called me that one time, and I was soooooooo offended. Didn't know it was meant to be a compliment, I thought "you're comparing me to an outhouse!!!"
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12/06/2005 10:36:15 AM · #77 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
She's Attractive: "She's built like a brick shithouse." |
Someone called me that one time, and I was soooooooo offended. Didn't know it was meant to be a compliment, I thought "you're comparing me to an outhouse!!!" |
I've been in a few outhouses and none of them looked like this...
Wonder how many other "profile" hits you got after that post?
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12/06/2005 10:38:41 AM · #78 |
Originally posted by Flash:
Wonder how many other "profile" hits you got after that post? |
Not as many as I'll get now that you posted that! *blushes* lol
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12/06/2005 05:56:14 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by KaDi:
To summarize, it's a colloquialism if it's what they say around your neck of the woods. It's an aphorism if it's said in order to instruct or advise--a short, pithy saying that means a whole lot more. It's hyperbole if it's an exaggeration--most of what we've been reading here--often contains the word "than"--faster than a speeding bullet. And its euphemism if it says it without saying "it"---but that's another thread.
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"Hyperbole" and "Euphemism" are not the same sort of distinct class as "Colloquialism". In other words, a colloquialism might be either hyperbolic or euphemistic in nature, but does not have to be. So, for that matter, an aphorism might be (and frequently is) hyperbolic, though they would rarely be euphemistic.
Your definitions of colloquialism and aphorism are spot on. Basically, "colloquial" is semi-synonymous with "vernacular": not exactly, but it involves localized speech patterns and forms of expression.
Anyway, my point is that a colloquialism is hyperbolic does not make it less than a colloquialism, just a particular SORT of colloquialism.
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12/06/2005 05:58:44 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
She's Attractive: "She's built like a brick shithouse." |
Someone called me that one time, and I was soooooooo offended. Didn't know it was meant to be a compliment, I thought "you're comparing me to an outhouse!!!" |
"Built like a brick shithouse" = "stacked", as in bricks are stacked during construction. In case anyone wondered where that comes from.
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12/06/2005 06:26:59 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
She's Attractive: "She's built like a brick shithouse." |
Someone called me that one time, and I was soooooooo offended. Didn't know it was meant to be a compliment, I thought "you're comparing me to an outhouse!!!" |
"Built like a brick shithouse" = "stacked", as in bricks are stacked during construction. In case anyone wondered where that comes from.
R. |
Still not sure I like being compared to a pile (stack) of bricks. :P
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12/06/2005 06:29:12 PM · #82 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by bear_music:
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by greatandsmall:
She's Attractive: "She's built like a brick shithouse." |
Someone called me that one time, and I was soooooooo offended. Didn't know it was meant to be a compliment, I thought "you're comparing me to an outhouse!!!" |
"Built like a brick shithouse" = "stacked", as in bricks are stacked during construction. In case anyone wondered where that comes from.
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Still not sure I like being compared to a pile (stack) of bricks. :P |
Better than "Built like a cowflop's ass" isn't it?
R.
Message edited by author 2005-12-06 18:29:42. |
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12/06/2005 06:55:34 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
"Hyperbole" and "Euphemism" are not the same sort of distinct class as "Colloquialism". In other words, a colloquialism might be either hyperbolic or euphemistic in nature, but does not have to be. So, for that matter, an aphorism might be (and frequently is) hyperbolic, though they would rarely be euphemistic.
Your definitions of colloquialism and aphorism are spot on. Basically, "colloquial" is semi-synonymous with "vernacular": not exactly, but it involves localized speech patterns and forms of expression.
Anyway, my point is that a colloquialism is hyperbolic does not make it less than a colloquialism, just a particular SORT of colloquialism.
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I understand that a colloquialism can be hyperbolic. But hyperbole does not need have to be colloquial, either. So I'm not sure that one is a sub-class of the other.
That said, I've been looking for a term that fits these sayings and have come up dry. I'd suggest that a colloquialism might be something like "I took a spin through suicide corner on my way to the Oakdale"--translation specific to locale= "I drove through the junction of routes 17 and 81 on the way to the local mall." A regionalism might be something like my grandmother saying "I have to go over-town"--meaning that she had to go to the shops on the main street of our small town to get something--it's an expression one hears in areas along the Appalachian Mountain chain. If the expression is well known throughout the US it would be an "Americanism," perhaps?
But I'm not sure any of these satisfy the classification of expressions which are used in some places in the US (maybe just in rural areas, for example) and not in others, yet aren't contained regionally. Nor do these seem to fit the peculiar nature of the general type of expression mostly posted here. Could they be "hyperbolic insults"? Or are they just plain old "figures of speech"? Given the propensity for linguists and anglophiles to name things, there must be an appropriate term...no?
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12/06/2005 06:59:23 PM · #84 |
Originally posted by KaDi:
Originally posted by bear_music:
"Hyperbole" and "Euphemism" are not the same sort of distinct class as "Colloquialism". In other words, a colloquialism might be either hyperbolic or euphemistic in nature, but does not have to be. So, for that matter, an aphorism might be (and frequently is) hyperbolic, though they would rarely be euphemistic.
Your definitions of colloquialism and aphorism are spot on. Basically, "colloquial" is semi-synonymous with "vernacular": not exactly, but it involves localized speech patterns and forms of expression.
Anyway, my point is that a colloquialism is hyperbolic does not make it less than a colloquialism, just a particular SORT of colloquialism.
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I understand that a colloquialism can be hyperbolic. But hyperbole does not need have to be colloquial, either. So I'm not sure that one is a sub-class of the other.
That said, I've been looking for a term that fits these sayings and have come up dry. I'd suggest that a colloquialism might be something like "I took a spin through suicide corner on my way to the Oakdale"--translation specific to locale= "I drove through the junction of routes 17 and 81 on the way to the local mall." A regionalism might be something like my grandmother saying "I have to go over-town"--meaning that she had to go to the shops on the main street of our small town to get something--it's an expression one hears in areas along the Appalachian Mountain chain. If the expression is well known throughout the US it would be an "Americanism," perhaps?
But I'm not sure any of these satisfy the classification of expressions which are used in some places in the US (maybe just in rural areas, for example) and not in others, yet aren't contained regionally. Nor do these seem to fit the peculiar nature of the general type of expression mostly posted here. Could they be "hyperbolic insults"? Or are they just plain old "figures of speech"? Given the propensity for linguists and anglophiles to name things, there must be an appropriate term...no?
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I didn't say that "hyperbole" was a subclass of "colloquialism". Look at it this way; think of a colloquialism as a noun, and "hyperbolic" as a modifier of that noun. Many things can be hyperbolic, not just colloquialisms. To say something is a "hyperbole" is not to exclude it from the class "colloquialism".
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Message edited by author 2005-12-06 18:59:47. |
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12/06/2005 07:05:15 PM · #85 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
I didn't say that "hyperbole" was a subclass of "colloquialism". Look at it this way; think of a colloquialism as a noun, and "hyperbolic" as a modifier of that noun. Many things can be hyperbolic, not just colloquialisms. To say something is a "hyperbole" is not to exclude it from the class "colloquialism".
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It was this:Originally posted by bear_music:
"Hyperbole" and "Euphemism" are not the same sort of distinct class as "Colloquialism". |
I'm really not trying to split hairs, I'd just like a satisfying term or expression for these sayings....
Hyperbolic Colloquialism (Adj. + N.)
Colloquial Hyperbole (Adj. + N.)
It doesn't seem to matter what part of speech they're assigned. We basically come up with the same meaning.
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