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10/27/2005 12:14:18 PM · #51 |
| Ladyhawk22 has already stated that she has no plans for going professional, and does not have a lot of money, so going Canon because of the possiblity of FF sensor cameras in the future should not be a consideration. Even if the prices of future FF bodies drops drastically the lenses are going to cost a fortune to get high quality images (one has to use the best glass available) and you would also lose focal length reach at the long end. Most photographers do not need extreme wide angle, 28mm is enough, but to lose at the tele end could really put a crimp on one's photography. |
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10/27/2005 12:14:56 PM · #52 |
Elizabeth - For what it is worth if you decide on the Nikon D50 I would not get the lenses you listed. I would either stick with the Nikon kit:
Nikon D50, 6.1 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera Kit with 18-55mm DX Zoom Nikkor Lens and 55-200 DX Zoom B&H
or go with the one lens kit, the 18-55, and save for a better long zoom down the road. |
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10/27/2005 12:17:25 PM · #53 |
| If you want to save money and get good equipment I'd look at buying used equipment. I've had great success getting near-new lenses and great condition camera bodies from the buy and sell forum at fredmiranda.com. With the new Canon 5D just relesed there is going to be a few 10D and 20D floating around for money in that range. Just a thought. |
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10/27/2005 12:21:22 PM · #54 |
Like this one prehaps.
//www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/301047 |
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10/27/2005 12:24:58 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by BaldurT:
Like this one prehaps.
//www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/301047 |
Ahh, apparently I shall have to register for that site.....it doesn't let me see the link. |
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10/27/2005 12:26:21 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
Ladyhawk22 has already stated that she has no plans for going professional, and does not have a lot of money, so going Canon because of the possiblity of FF sensor cameras in the future should not be a consideration. Even if the prices of future FF bodies drops drastically the lenses are going to cost a fortune to get high quality images (one has to use the best glass available) and you would also lose focal length reach at the long end. Most photographers do not need extreme wide angle, 28mm is enough, but to lose at the tele end could really put a crimp on one's photography. |
Being on a budget is a good reason to consider canon! They have a great
selection of mid range lenses! Just because you get a canon doesn't mean you HAVE to get L glass! Although, you may long for it! |
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10/27/2005 12:47:46 PM · #57 |
More thoughts for your consideration....
Regarding your list of lenses; 28mm is not wide enough on a digital camera. Something in the 20mm or wider (lower as in 12-18) range is required to get what many regard as acceptable landscape or group photos. Therefore, regardless what body you decide upon, please consider a lens that reads at least 20mm (or lower) on the bottom side. For animals or birds, 200-300mm lenses are the very minimum and require you being quite close to get any kind of a "fill frame". Therefore, something in the 400-500mm range on the long side is required to get what many reagrd as acceptable bird or animal photos.
This means that your lenses (in order to shoot both landscapes and animals in nature, require focal lengths between 20mm and 500mm. Many first time buyers settle for a moderate wide angle and a moderate tele-zoom. Meaning something in the 28-300 range, typically with 2 lenses, a 28-85 and a 70-300. This covers alot of ground, is not too expensive and gives them glass to shoot with. Unfortunately, if you really like the hobby, you will quickly want better glass.
Therefore, research the lenses that may fit your needs: Canon, Nikkor, Sigma, Minolta, Tamron, etc. Hold various bodies IN YOUR HANDS for comfort and ergonomic feel. Then design a plan to meet your requirements. If Nikon were your choice, then you could start with a 50mm f/1.8 and start taking pictures. Good pictures. Really good pictures. Then add a wide angle zoom like the kit lens or an 18-35. Then add a tele-zoom like Sigma's 50-500 Ex or Nikkors 70-400 and you could shoot anything you wanted. Add a tripod, speedlight, couple of CF cards and your off to the races. This may take 2-3 years, but in the meantime you are taking great photos. There are always birthdays, anniversaries, valentines day, sweetest day, and christmas to add little items to your system. This also gives those that love you, a list of things you're longing for, which makes shopping much much easier.
Good luck with your research. It is a great passion to pursue.
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10/27/2005 01:51:24 PM · #58 |
eBay.
Sell the wife, the kids, the TV.
Then you don't have to wait 2-3 years ;)
OOOOOHHHH, my lens just got closer. I checked my powerball ticket fform yesterday - I won $100!!!! Yeah baby!
Message edited by author 2005-10-27 13:53:18. |
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10/27/2005 01:52:42 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by jpeters:
I've heard bad news about the Nikkor 70-300 f/4-5.6 G |
It's my least used lens. However I do not regret buying it. Best zoom per $.
Nick
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10/27/2005 01:56:21 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by Nikolai1024:
Originally posted by jpeters:
I've heard bad news about the Nikkor 70-300 f/4-5.6 G |
It's my least used lens. However I do not regret buying it. Best zoom per $.
Nick |
Edit: I actually have ED version.
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10/27/2005 04:18:07 PM · #61 |
heheh -- too late for me, too much money in glass now. :)
Originally posted by alfresco:
Originally posted by ttreit:
For that reason I recommend the Nikon or Canon. I'm a former Nikon person converted to Canon so you can guess which I'd recommend. Really either are good choices. |
You can still be saved from the dark side, there is still time :)
j/k - I don't want to start a religous debate, both are excellent. |
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10/27/2005 04:24:23 PM · #62 |
If you buy the Sigma 70-300mm APO DG Macro for your DSLR, you get a zoom lens and also a very capable Macro 1:2 lens.
Go with the camera that suits and fits you best, regardless of Nikon, Canon or Olympus bias. Try them out, read what they can do that you want, then decide. Don't be swayed by DPCers, listen to what they say then make up your own mind to what suits you best.
Good Luck and enjoy your DSLR when you get it.
Steve
Message edited by author 2005-10-27 16:25:02. |
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10/27/2005 04:25:33 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
eBay.
Sell the wife, the kids, the TV.
Then you don't have to wait 2-3 years ;)
OOOOOHHHH, my lens just got closer. I checked my powerball ticket fform yesterday - I won $100!!!! Yeah baby! |
Hahahahaha! I could try selling the husband, but then who would help me gather props for the challenges?? Plus, he makes all the money ;-) Though I DO feel like I sold three of my children....had to sell some of my old musical instruments to get the money to even CONSIDER an SLR...but I'm very close now!
Now I spend my days looking around the apartment to see what else I can sell on eBay ;-) |
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10/27/2005 05:39:04 PM · #64 |
I had forgotten in my last post that I still had my Tamron 28-300 laying around. I have since upgraded all my glass but this lens severed me well for quite some time. Someone mentioned used leses and it reminded me. See:
Tamorn 28-300 For Sale
If you go with the Nikon D50 and the basic kit lens (Nikon 18-55) you could then add soemthing like this for a few hundred or less later. It will take you until you are ready for some serious distance like the 200-500 or wide-wide like the 12-24. Anyway , just more options.
BTW - jsut to be non-Nikon-centric D(digital only) lenes like this are available from Tamron and Sigma for Canon also. |
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