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10/06/2005 12:08:18 PM · #1
I want, no I MUST HAVE a wide angle zoom lens.
The options I am considering are:

Sigma EX 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC HSM Euro 469.00
Tokina AT X 12-24/4.0 Pro DX Euro 439.00
Sigma AF 12-24/F4.5-5.6 ex DG Asph Euro 649.00
Canon EF-S 10-22mm F3.5-4.5 USM Euro 719.00

The 10-20 Sigma has HSM, The Tokina is F4.0 over the total lenght
But 10 is wider then 12, The canon is expensive, the 12-24 Sigma is realy expensive considering his newer brothers price...

Ahh the joy of owning a DSLR.
Please help me...

Edit: Typo

Message edited by author 2005-10-06 12:08:57.
10/06/2005 12:15:33 PM · #2
I can only say that the Canon 10-22mm is by FAR the best-performing super WA zoom I've ever used. It has practically zero barrel distortion and it's virtually flare-proof; this latter is very important, 'cuz at 100 degrees of angular coverage you're gonna be looking into the sun a LOT. Note the following image:

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Incidentally, it's so wide that when you shoot seascapes you can actually see the curvature of the earth in the curvature of the horizon. I think, anyway; I know that there's no visible barrel distortion in 10mm interior shots, so I'm guessing that the slight horizon curvature on seascapes is actually the curvature of the earth...

Robt.
10/06/2005 12:16:31 PM · #3
The Sigma 12-24mm will come in very handy when the cheap full-frame DSLRs come out.
10/06/2005 12:17:02 PM · #4
Just purchased the 10-20mm Sigma, great lense, beautifully made and I'm having lots of fun with the 10mm range. Considered the 12-24 Sigma but seems far too over priced. Didn't look at the Tokina as the Sigma was so highly commended.

Some recent shots I have taken, all the Avebury shots were taken with the 10-20.

Hope this helps?
Nordic
10/06/2005 12:19:24 PM · #5
I've heard some very good things about that TOKINA f4, the extra stop helps and the quality is very good allthough i have never tried the lens I have a friend who has used it and was impressed. the extra 2mm on the 10-20mm is not worth the extra 4mm you loose the other end IMHO, go for the cheaper TOKINA ... IF you can afford ANY of the le4nses you mentioned then obviously the Canon is the way to go but it is a big chunk more expensive and with the change you could grab another lens too...
10/06/2005 12:28:30 PM · #6
OK so far I got a vote for every lens I mentioned.
Yes Price is an issue.
I CAN buy the more expensive one (Let's call it Canon) but it has to be worth twice the money too...

10/06/2005 12:29:29 PM · #7
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

The Sigma 12-24mm will come in very handy when the cheap full-frame DSLRs come out.


Would I be right in thinking that the 12-24 is the only one of the four that would be suitable for full-frame?

Obviously the Canon is EF-s, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that the other two are optimised for 1.6 crop cameras and would vignette on a larger sensor. That's perhaps why the 12-24 is more expensive.
10/06/2005 12:35:39 PM · #8
I have the Tokina and I'm delighted with it. Sharp and easy to use. I looked at the Nikon equivalent but almost everyone thought the Tokina was better as well as being lower cost.
10/06/2005 12:37:21 PM · #9
Originally posted by AJAger:

Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

The Sigma 12-24mm will come in very handy when the cheap full-frame DSLRs come out.


Would I be right in thinking that the 12-24 is the only one of the four that would be suitable for full-frame?

Obviously the Canon is EF-s, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that the other two are optimised for 1.6 crop cameras and would vignette on a larger sensor. That's perhaps why the 12-24 is more expensive.


The Sigma 10-20 is limited, yes. The Sigma 12-24 theoretically covers full-frame sensors, though there may be quality issues at the edges. I don't know about the Tokina.

R.
10/06/2005 12:38:50 PM · #10
Originally posted by AJAger:

Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

The Sigma 12-24mm will come in very handy when the cheap full-frame DSLRs come out.


Would I be right in thinking that the 12-24 is the only one of the four that would be suitable for full-frame?

Obviously the Canon is EF-s, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that the other two are optimised for 1.6 crop cameras and would vignette on a larger sensor. That's perhaps why the 12-24 is more expensive.


That is correct. Of the 4 lenses, the Sigma 12-24 is the only one to provide coverage for a 24mmx36mm frame.

I have the Sigma 12-24. I bought it because, at the time, the other lenses were not on the market.


10/06/2005 12:41:50 PM · #11
The 12-24 Sigma works a treat on my film camera... very useful when you need that extra coverage!
10/06/2005 12:51:30 PM · #12
I think you'll find at all of these lenses are high quality. I purchased the 10-20mm Sigma and just love it! Super fast focus, very sharp at both ends. Well worth every penny.

10/06/2005 01:50:10 PM · #13
BTW, what is HSM?
10/06/2005 01:51:59 PM · #14
Originally posted by ttreit:

BTW, what is HSM?


Hyper Sonic Motor

Basically Sigma's equivalent to Canon's Ultra Sonic Motor aka USM

10/06/2005 02:26:05 PM · #15
@kosmickreeper.

So that USM is fast enough you say...
Hmm I am starting to think the Sigma 10-20 would be my choice...

Message edited by author 2005-10-06 14:27:11.
10/06/2005 02:47:06 PM · #16
Originally posted by Philos31:

@kosmickreeper.

So that USM is fast enough you say...
Hmm I am starting to think the Sigma 10-20 would be my choice...


I've got the 12-24, which has HSM. It's my opinion that this is rather wasted on a wide angle lens. For instance, at 12mm and f8, the hyperfocal distance is less than a metre. I don't normally use the AF at all, rather leave it set manually focussed to 1metre and snap away.
10/06/2005 02:49:24 PM · #17
get the 10-22 for sure!
i tried it out on sunday in a camera shop and after i left i was still in awe of how great it was

check it out
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10/06/2005 02:56:46 PM · #18
I am very keen to get a wide angle zoom. Heard great things about the Tokina 12-24. While I have not seen one in action if its as good value as my Tokina 24-200 then I would favour the Tokina. They are so well built and the optics for the money are outstanding

Mike


10/06/2005 03:58:05 PM · #19
Originally posted by MikeOwens:

I am very keen to get a wide angle zoom. Heard great things about the Tokina 12-24. While I have not seen one in action if its as good value as my Tokina 24-200 then I would favour the Tokina. They are so well built and the optics for the money are outstanding

Mike


That's the problem, I've had the ATX 242 (24-200) and I realy HATED it.
It was slow, it was only sharp when I was lucky it made noise, but it was very nice build.
I know people say it's a great walkaround lens but I was so glad I could get rid of it.
But maybe I had a bad copy.
10/06/2005 04:21:11 PM · #20
I went through this same question a few months ago and decided to pop for the Canon. This artilce runs through the various comparisons with some good links.

I chose the 10-22 because of the good reviews and the fact that it can take filters. I don't know how I would feel taking the Sigmas with their bulbous front elements down to the beach on a windy day, and while you can buy polarising filters and a mechanism to hold them out in front of the front element, it makes an unwealdy package.

I think that the 1.6 crop is so popular that even if I end up upgrading to a bigger sensor, that the 10-22 ef-s will, like most Canon glass, hold its value on the resale market better than it's competitors. While this is not my favorite lens, it allows you to shoot places where otherwise the camera would stay in the bag. If you can find the way to spend the extra money it is worth it.
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