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10/10/2005 08:17:47 PM · #76
then the boundaries are vague then???
10/10/2005 08:30:36 PM · #77

10/10/2005 08:31:53 PM · #78
Yeah, I think everyone is getting hung up between "possessing human form" and "non-human looking". So the best you can do is decide what you think the challenge is about do your best.
10/10/2005 08:38:34 PM · #79
Sorry, I just threw that image in for laughs. It's from the Hidden Faces challenge.

When I think of personification I think of something like when you trip over a rock and then turn back and say "stupid rock". The rock isn't human...not even alive of course - but the person that tripped over it spoke to it and gave it a human attribute. Then again, I guess some time ago people used to talk to rocks all the time...when the Pet Rock craze was upon us. ;^)

There ARE going to be many, many interpretations of what meets the challenge in this one. Should be interesting. Have fun!
10/10/2005 09:21:11 PM · #80
Originally posted by glad2badad:


There ARE going to be many, many interpretations of what meets the challenge in this one. Should be interesting. Have fun!


Well, I believe the number people that will think my entry does not fit the challenge will be...zero.

Now the number of people who will think it's a good picture...aye, there's the rub.
10/10/2005 09:25:19 PM · #81
Even with all the controversy, I think this will be my strongest showing yet....but that's not saying much.
: )
10/11/2005 05:24:50 PM · #82
ok sorry for taking so long to reply again. Diffrence to me on hum looking is like seeing a face in a rock that looks very human like or seeing somthing that abstract looks like a face. Kinda like the If I saw american gothic I would say the faces in it were Human like but a smiley face :) typed out isnt human looking but resembles a human expression. I will say people who submit photos of something that shows an emotion or quality without looking like a human at all will score higher in my book.
10/11/2005 05:40:25 PM · #83
there was a challenge about exactly that a few months back... find something in nature that looks like something else (a face or whatever).

I think personification is to give an unanimated object life... emotions.

Like a toy or any other objects (be it a rock displaying a face, the Moon's smile, a G.I.JOE exploding...)

That's what i'm expecting to show up in this challenge.
10/11/2005 05:43:47 PM · #84
Oh pleeeese tell me you have a shot of GI Joe exploding! lol
10/11/2005 06:06:19 PM · #85
LOL...

well i actually though about it... but to be honest, i didn't find this appealing as a DPC.com entry... and it doesn't quite show any emotion, unless you can capture JOE with a wideopen in surprise face as his stock is exploding by a few well stacked up crackers ;)

So... hmm sorry to disapoint hehe
10/11/2005 06:14:01 PM · #86
Methinks a g i joe (even exploding) is way too "human looking" for most voters!

Jacque
10/11/2005 06:24:39 PM · #87
I think this challenge is going to rely heavily on the title. If your title evokes a "oh yeah, I can see that" response, the picture will do well.
10/11/2005 07:25:20 PM · #88
How's about...

"...and the wind cries Mary")
"an angry sea"

OR

The Sounds of Silence
Simon and Garfunkel

(words and music by Paul Simon)

Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence

In restless dreams I walked alone
Narrow streets of cobblestone
'Neath the halo of a street lamp
I turned my collar to the cold and damp
When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence

And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people, maybe more
People talking without speaking
People hearing without listening
People writing songs that voices never share
And no one dared
Disturb the sound of silence

"Fools", said I, "You do not know
Silence like a cancer grows
Hear my words that I might teach you
Take my arms that I might reach you"
But my words, like silent raindrops fell
And echoed
In the wells of silence

And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made
And the sign flashed out its warning
In the words that it was forming
And the sign said, "The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls"
And whispered in the sounds of silence

OR

"Like a bridge over troubled water..."

Sad thing is this challenge will probably amount to "find the face in the tree bark" or "spot the squirrel in the clouds"

Message edited by author 2005-10-11 19:38:39.
10/11/2005 08:00:15 PM · #89
I think you will find quite a few other types in here, did not like the idea of pride, too many tombstones/flags/soldiers/parades. Lots of them will be "set up" especially for this challange, but that is not a problem with me anyway!

Jacque
10/12/2005 02:25:09 PM · #90
moved this from the Personification Scores thread...think this thread is more appropriate. ;^) Sorry for any interruption.

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by queanbeez:

i didnt enter, but i'm not voting like you. isnt "capturing a face" a physical characteristic? to me it is, so i dont see what is wrong with those photos.


Just a clarification of the challenge description:
Personification occurs when inanimate objects are endowed with human qualities or represented as possessing human form or personality. Take a photo of something non-human-looking but yet still shows human characteristics or evokes a human feeling.

Capturing a face in an inanimate object...fine. Artificially building/constructing a face isn't quite the same thing and IMO isn't within the context of this challenge. I think the last line is really two parts; 1) "still shows human characterisitcs" and 2) "evokes a human feeling". 2nd one is harder to capture. Again, JMO. ;^)

edit - missed a quotation mark. ;^)

10/12/2005 02:37:28 PM · #91
Originally posted by queanbeez:

i didnt enter, but i'm not voting like you. isnt "capturing a face" a physical characteristic? to me it is, so i dont see what is wrong with those photos.


I didn't mean to say that capturing a face was "against the spirit of the challenge". Not at all. But if all you do is capture a face without the face evoking a feeling or idea, them I'm non-plussed. (Don't worry, I'm not giving these pictures 1s and 2s, those are for the dolls and statues...)

If you happen to find a face in a rock and just call it "face in rock", I'm not excited. If you happen to find a face in a rock which looks dejected and call it "A million years of depression", then I'm happier.

I guess in other words I feel that a "characteristic" was not "physical characteristic" but more of an abstract or emotional one like thinking, loving, anger, curiosity, happiness, etc.

Don't think I have the cornerstone on what this challenge means. I'm just voting how I feel (to which I'm entitled). I feel too many found a face without thinking harder about it...

Message edited by author 2005-10-12 14:40:43.
10/12/2005 02:54:06 PM · #92
Jeez- You guys can really suck the fun out of a friendly exchange of photos.............
10/12/2005 03:05:22 PM · #93
That could have been fun. A photo of an orange with a straw sticking out - the orange looking like it had all the juice sucked out of it. Hmmm...what to title it? ;^)

Originally posted by jrjr:

Jeez- You guys can really suck the fun out of a friendly exchange of photos.............

10/12/2005 03:09:15 PM · #94
Comment moved from 'Personification score!' thread:

Personification occurs when inanimate objects are endowed with human qualities or represented as possessing human form or personality. Take a photo of something non-human-looking but yet still shows human characteristics or evokes a human feeling.

I find this is very clear.

Inanimated Object: obviously something that will not move on its own, has no heart or organic brain with which to fonction on its own accord.

Endowed with human qualities or represented as possessing human form or personality: By definition, this can be an object that looks humanoid if placed properly, or can be an object or toy which looks humanoid, which can be manipulated to show or express a certain personality trait (read: emotion).

The only problem i have with this description is the 'non human looking' part, where it says HUMAN and not HUMANOID. Those two are very similar in term, but very different in description/explanation. Human being a Humain being (Man, woman...) and Humanoid being anything that has got 2 legs, to arms and a head.

Overall, i agree that statues or GIjoes are not good because they represent a human form (read: Man, Woman...), but all toys, objects or any non HUMAN (read: Man, Woman...) items/objects are perfectly legit.

Basically, think about PIxar's animated Lamp (and logo), or ToyStory (minus the main characters, which are human-looking and represent humans as man or woman). Those are all Personifications. Objects (read: Toys in this context) endowed with human form or personality.

Message edited by author 2005-10-12 15:10:23.
10/12/2005 04:39:53 PM · #95
My initial reaction was to think about the literary device, which I think is more difficult than "form" to convey in a photo. I also saw the "non human looking", which lead me more in that direction.

Upon further consideration, I think I may have been too harsh in voting on some of the "human form" type photos. If it is indeed, a good photo and conveys some sort of human characteristic (and is an inanimate object) then I might have to raise my scores a bit. There is a line in the description about "human form" as well as emotions, etc.

I still like the literary device type better, however I need to look a bit more, I think, at the photography and a little less emphasis on MY interpretation for the challenge.

EDITED TO ADD: Just note to add that even my initial scores, I felt, were pretty fair. No 1's or 2's, I think maybe 2 or 3 3's and everything else was 4 or above.

Message edited by author 2005-10-12 16:42:01.
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