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10/05/2005 12:43:38 AM · #1
^ what the title says ^

:-( Flippin' pc slow as a snail again.

Aw well! Anyone fancy having a look and leaving a comment here anyway, and I'd be very grateful. :-)

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Message edited by author 2005-10-06 00:16:50.
10/05/2005 01:47:22 AM · #2
Got the colors right but after looking at the competition my guess you would have scored 5-6 or so.
10/05/2005 01:50:25 AM · #3
Blue and Orange are indeed complimentary. I would have scored this somewhere in the 5 or 6 range. There is a bit of noise that is pronounced in the blue region. Neat Image perhaps?
10/05/2005 01:52:44 AM · #4
I agree with the other fellows: I think this would probably finish somewhere between 5 and 5.5. nice color streaks, but there's no focal point, and the noise/jpeg artifacting is bothersome.
10/05/2005 02:31:28 AM · #5
Thanks for the generous apprasals so far folks, I'm really glad to be plodding steadily in the right direction with each contest. My scores are moving along slow and steady like the tortoise. :-)

Originally posted by rikki11:

Blue and Orange are indeed complimentary. I would have scored this somewhere in the 5 or 6 range. There is a bit of noise that is pronounced in the blue region. Neat Image perhaps?

I'm new'ish' to digital, could you explain what you mean by 'neat image'? Is it another manupilation program? Because I was using Photoshop, and followed the advice in this tutorial: Using Photoshop to Prepare Photos for DPC Challenges

[edit: I found the program and I see what you mean now. Isn't what you describe possible in photoshop?]

Originally posted by mycelium:

there's no focal point, and the noise/jpeg artifacting is bothersome.

I aimed to use a shallow focal field centred on the stem on the foremost orange glass, and especially it's reflections showing the blue glass stems behind it. Although the focus seems sharp to me, maybe I'm wrong, but if you mean the shot is missing something of interest, then could you suggest anything different you might have tried?

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10/05/2005 02:34:01 AM · #6
Neat Image is a program that you can use to improve the noise in your image. Most DPCers use Neat image and some use Noise Ninja. NI is free though :)
10/05/2005 02:41:46 AM · #7
Thanks Rikki, I wasn't quite fast enouigh with the edit. It's dl'ing as I type. Thanks :-)
10/05/2005 04:06:56 PM · #8
Originally posted by Caine:


Originally posted by mycelium:

there's no focal point, and the noise/jpeg artifacting is bothersome.

I aimed to use a shallow focal field centred on the stem on the foremost orange glass, and especially it's reflections showing the blue glass stems behind it. Although the focus seems sharp to me, maybe I'm wrong, but if you mean the shot is missing something of interest, then could you suggest anything different you might have tried?


(I do mean focal point, not focus- your focus was fine)

The angle you were working with was a very difficult one, because of the linear diffraction pattern of the wine glasses. It's hard to create a focal point when you're working with that. It helps to have a clear area of high contrast, or an isolated shape or color patch, or something that has visual weight to it. I don't see anything like that in your picture. How to keep the same approach and also get a center of visual interest, I'm not sure... that's where you come in!
10/05/2005 04:33:34 PM · #9
hmmm.... link doesn't work for me!
10/05/2005 04:45:53 PM · #10
Link doesnt work for me.
10/06/2005 12:17:50 AM · #11
Sorry about the link folks, edited now to fix it.

Maybe there's only a certain number of views allowed with imageshack or something?
10/06/2005 12:36:33 AM · #12
Originally posted by mycelium:

The angle you were working with was a very difficult one, because of the linear diffraction pattern of the wine glasses. It's hard to create a focal point when you're working with that. It helps to have a clear area of high contrast, or an isolated shape or color patch, or something that has visual weight to it. I don't see anything like that in your picture. How to keep the same approach and also get a center of visual interest, I'm not sure... that's where you come in!


I think I understand what you're getting at; place something like for example an item of food, maybe a fruit, at the focal point. Is that what you mean? The title I was going to place on the shot was going to be: "Harmonics", and I was going for more of an abstract representation of the rhythm between the two complementary colours, hence the oblique angle. I guess I didn't pull any of these ideas off though.

10/06/2005 09:55:22 AM · #13
I like the shot, myself. Some things I would suggest, and I think this is along the same lines as what mycelium was saying. Simplify the background/surrounding areas. Are those lamps we see in the stems of the glasses? If you could eliminate some of those types of distractions, the image would feel much more clean, IMO. Also, and this is completely subjective, I would have tried to line the stems up parallel to each other. Overall, I really like the shot, somewhat abstract, but not so much as to make me sit here and scratch my head. :-)
10/06/2005 12:01:27 PM · #14
Heh, well it was just abstract enough to baffle your good self Tim. ;-) The set-up was as follows: row of blue wine glasses standing upright behind a row of orange wine glasses turned upside-down. And all the glasses in each row were touching, and the rows were (believe it or not) lined up and touching. Could it have been the fact I was so close and using a macro lens that made it seem off or something?
10/06/2005 12:56:16 PM · #15
Yup, got me there! :-) Oh well, I liked it anyway.
10/07/2005 01:24:52 AM · #16
Why, thanks Tim! :-)
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