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10/03/2005 09:45:56 PM · #1
what materials do you often use for plain white or black backgrounds?
how's the setup and lighting? pics of setups would be very helpful... thanks!
10/03/2005 10:01:31 PM · #2
In my extremely amateur low-budget way, I've done two shots with black grounds. Both times I used a navy blue fleece jacket behind the subject, and shot in pitch dark in a bathroom that has no windows. Light was done with a transilluminator in the tulip shot (the bright light the eye doc shines in your eyes to check pupil function) and a tea light candle in the lotus picture.

10/03/2005 10:04:29 PM · #3
I'm low budget too so I bought a yard of black velvet for $19.99 and have used that A LOT. I only use natural light outside and the velvet works pretty well. It does pick up lots of fuzz though. Here are 2 examples:

10/03/2005 10:13:37 PM · #4
nice samples!!! its quite interesting that turquoise919 shoots in the dark while Tuckersmom use natural light outside... well the good thing is i'm into low budget too! lol
10/03/2005 10:18:11 PM · #5
I use typing or computer paper.
10/03/2005 10:20:41 PM · #6
Originally posted by faidoi:

I use typing or computer paper.



Message edited by author 2005-10-03 22:21:54.
10/03/2005 10:27:27 PM · #7
Originally posted by faidoi:

Originally posted by faidoi:

I use typing or computer paper.



alright! but do you guys know how to lighten the shadows?
10/03/2005 10:27:27 PM · #8
Also, for white I have this plastic serving tray that is really white, I just flip it over and use that, examples:

10/03/2005 10:28:02 PM · #9
This one is just put up for fun in a different thread (and the way I shoot small/medium subjects)



Is done with a goofy setup I did at work.

Lighting is a 2' x 3' tracing table with 4 flourescents behind white plexiglass turned on its side (Marketing people were throwing it out)

Then I placed (4) white 2' x 3' foam core boards as back, side, top and bottom with the tracing table lights as the left side. This leaves the front open for me to shot in at a subject placed in the box. The reflected light off the top, bottom and opposite side give plenty of light in the box. Also the top foam core board keeps unwanted relections off shinny objects.

10/03/2005 10:28:45 PM · #10
For the shadows I set the white point in curves or levels, that usually works pretty well. For the film, I liked the shadow and left it. For some others I'll clone out what's left after the curves.
10/03/2005 10:30:42 PM · #11
Light table like awpollard said is the best way to get rid of those shadows.

You can light underneath a piece of glass or plexi, even an empty fishtank and place the object on something white.
10/03/2005 10:30:54 PM · #12
Wow...I guess I showed this little beauty before I found the setup in my port...



I use levels and Contrast to take care of shadows.
10/03/2005 10:33:14 PM · #13
Originally posted by Tuckersmom:

For the shadows I set the white point in curves or levels, that usually works pretty well. For the film, I liked the shadow and left it. For some others I'll clone out what's left after the curves.




That's what I pretty much did here. The other was just invert on PS which can be done in camera with some point and shooters.
10/03/2005 10:49:29 PM · #14
Originally posted by faidoi:

Originally posted by Tuckersmom:

For the shadows I set the white point in curves or levels, that usually works pretty well. For the film, I liked the shadow and left it. For some others I'll clone out what's left after the curves.




That's what I pretty much did here. The other was just invert on PS which can be done in camera with some point and shooters.


so this is how the pancake shot was made...
10/03/2005 10:51:19 PM · #15
Originally posted by art-inept:

Originally posted by faidoi:

Originally posted by Tuckersmom:

For the shadows I set the white point in curves or levels, that usually works pretty well. For the film, I liked the shadow and left it. For some others I'll clone out what's left after the curves.




That's what I pretty much did here. The other was just invert on PS which can be done in camera with some point and shooters.


so this is how the pancake shot was made...


Oops, forgot to mention that I selected and masked the label to leave it the same as the original ;)
10/03/2005 10:51:48 PM · #16
tnx to ya'll!! i need to try those...
10/03/2005 11:35:29 PM · #17
For small objects you can use an LCD computer screen with a solid color as a backdrop. The glow from the screen reduces shadows.
10/03/2005 11:58:25 PM · #18

For this, I used my shower room floor and bathtub side.
10/04/2005 02:21:19 AM · #19


Velum paper comes pretty big (48x32)at art supply stores, and makes a pretty smooth seamless backround.



If you want no shadows you can place the object on a peice of plexiglass, and light the white backround below the subject.



For black, nothing beats black velvet. You can get sixty inch wide bolts from furniture upolstery supply stores, I got mine at three bucks a yard because it was a remainder.
10/04/2005 02:03:44 PM · #20
For white I often use 3m brand post it easel pad (flip chart paper). Its 2.5' x 2.08' and has a very sticky top that will stick to a wall. I use it with a portable table to create a cyclorama. Also a tripod projection screen works well if its not glass beaded (too many reflections with glass). For black I use velvet.
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