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09/29/2005 01:49:35 AM · #1
Ok I've been doing microstock for almost 10 months... I realized a few minutes ago that istock, shutterstock and dreamstime all support title/description/keywords embedded in the metadata of your shot. I feel so stupid right now, I usually did keywords manually on shutterstock first then copied and pasted to istock then to dreamstine. I could have saved myself so much time. Hopefully none of you will make this mistake anymore!

What programs do people use to keyword images? Right now i started using Adobe Bridge but there have to be better programs out there, right?

Nick
09/29/2005 02:20:30 AM · #2
i use imatch

it seems to work fairly well and has a few better options...
09/29/2005 02:32:45 AM · #3
I thought regular Photoshop has that feature too.
09/29/2005 02:42:40 AM · #4
I use phoptoshop, but it is pretty inconvenient. You can only work on 1 word at a time. Better would be to be able to enter a comma seperated list in word or something to use the spell checker, then paste the whole bunch of words into the meta data at one time.
09/29/2005 02:47:10 AM · #5
Originally posted by aKiwi:

I use phoptoshop, but it is pretty inconvenient. You can only work on 1 word at a time. Better would be to be able to enter a comma seperated list in word or something to use the spell checker, then paste the whole bunch of words into the meta data at one time.

Entering one at a time is not that much trouble. If I have several similar images which will use the same keywords, I just save that version of the "File > Info" as a small file, and load it into subsequent images.
09/29/2005 04:25:22 AM · #6
I use PS for keywording, stored in metadata. And it can be transfer to my DAM application, iView Media Pro. I use Action feature in PS for multiple images.
09/29/2005 07:16:01 AM · #7
I use the PS CS2 Bridge but I certainly don't assign one word at a time to each image.

I create sets of keywords first. For example, I'll be keywording my Antarctica pics soon, I'll create sets of keywords based on ice, based on the sea, based on historical voyages and expeditions, based on wildlife and various other categories that I think of.

I'll then select a group of images according to content and apply keyword sets to it as appropriate (very quick) and then select the next group of pics and apply the keyword sets that fit that group and so on.

It's still not ideal and I'm open to better tools but it's certainly not a case of one keyword at a time to every image one at a time!

Message edited by author 2005-09-29 07:16:40.
10/04/2005 06:42:31 AM · #8
that's more or less how I do it too, by firstly creating a set in one image, then exporting it. But to firstly enter them all in a program with a spell checker for those of us who can't spell or typw would be convenient.
10/04/2005 08:23:44 AM · #9
Originally posted by aKiwi:

that's more or less how I do it too, by firstly creating a set in one image, then exporting it. But to firstly enter them all in a program with a spell checker for those of us who can't spell or typw would be convenient.

I don't mind too much on that front as my spelling is pretty good and I don't mind proof-reading my sets for typos on my own BUT I appreciate it would be a help to many.


10/04/2005 08:39:37 AM · #10
Ok, I'm going to sound really dumb here jumping in to ask what are you guys talking about? Is there a tutorial somewhere I can look up about "A step-by-step process to keywording digital shots for dummies"?

It's really amazing what I pick up at DPC's forum threads ... :)

10/04/2005 08:46:34 AM · #11
Eileen

When you upload images to stock photography websites in order to (hopefully) sell them you need to provide keywords to allow potential buyers to find them when they search.

As well as a title for the image, you want to also include any other words on which they might search.

For example, if I have a picture of an iceberg in the Antarctic, my title would be something like that, but I'd add keywords for things like ice, blue, cold, freezing, pole, polar, etc. If the subject could also be associated with some conceptual keywords suchas fresh, ancient, invigorate I'd add those too.

Most of the stock sites do have interfaces that allow you to enter keywords for images loaded but often you have to do it manually one image at a time.

Luckily, if keywords are already embedded in the metadata of the image file, many stock sites can read them and will copy them directly.

So there are programmes that allow keywords to be added to image files metadata.

Photoshop can be used for this, it isn't ideal but it's better than doing it via the stock websites themselves.

Message edited by author 2005-10-04 08:47:34.
10/04/2005 08:53:33 AM · #12
Hi Kavita

Thanks. Got that much. But what goes into metadata of a file and where do I find the right programmes to help? I'm using an ACDSee trial at the moment. Can I find it in there? In fact, what's the process like? OK let's say, I have an image taken and saved to PS or ACDSee. What next? Do I edit and resize what I want before looking at creating keywords or do I do that on the original image saved?

Sorry if these are a lot of questions in one go.
10/04/2005 08:56:39 AM · #13
Eileen
Couldn't tell you a thing about ACDSee as I've never seen it let alone used it.
In PS if you have CS or CS2 it's easiest to view the data in the Browser/ Bridge. There's a tab already there to show metadata.
Personally, I add only to the processed images as I don't intend to print/ view or sell a large number of the raw shots I take. But you can add metadata to your unprocessed files if you want to.
10/04/2005 09:06:02 AM · #14
Thanks once again. I guess it's up to me now to go digging into the programmes I have.

BTW, you have some pretty awesome safari shots!
10/04/2005 09:15:50 AM · #15
Digital Image Library (p/o Microsoft Digital Image Suite) has a sweet keywording system...I will verify that it works with shutterstock today.

Thanks for the tip

10/04/2005 09:57:22 AM · #16
Originally posted by elee3009:

BTW, you have some pretty awesome safari shots!

Thank you! And thanks for looking too...
10/04/2005 10:11:19 AM · #17
I go back and re-edit and then discard old processed images fairly regularly (keeping the original RAW file only), so I'm pretty wary of accidentally throwing away an image that has metadata embedded into it. For this reason, I just enter all of my images into a very simple database that I made in FileMaker Pro that allows me to store the image's keywords and to track where I have submitted the image and whether it was accepted or rejected, along with any other notes about it. This is pretty easy to do in any data application, such as Excel.
12/23/2008 10:18:28 PM · #18
Well I found this thread helpful to me. I wish to know how one can import/export keyword sets in adobe bridge? I also want to know about a source where from I can get keyword sets.
12/24/2008 08:31:06 AM · #19
Site that can help you with finding keywords:

- //arcurs.com/keywording/
- //www.findphotokeywords.com/

And I use Cushy Stock ( //www.cushystock.com/ ) to edit the IPTC data in my image file for title, description, keywords, copyright, and contact info.
02/28/2009 01:00:48 PM · #20
For the economically minded, IrfanView (Thumbnails) will do batch IPTC data (including keywords).
03/07/2009 05:58:09 AM · #21
I use a program called keywords editor from a site at www.deepperspective.com

it looks like the site is down now though, so perhaps they stopped making it :(

Anyhow, the program still works and you can probably find it on the net somewhere. It works as a plug in for photoshop and checks spelling, duplicates and a few other things.

Otherwise i just use Adobe Bridge.
03/10/2009 10:43:09 PM · #22
I use MSinfo or CS2 to incorp the keywords and I use Arcurs keywording tool for keywording.
Hey Nico, I thought u were in MStock for years and exclusive to Istock.
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