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09/24/2005 03:12:22 PM · #26 |
English houses had a pantry which was a small room or even cupboard with good ventilation and a marble or stone shelf. Our first house, thirty plus years ago, had a pantry and milk etc did keep really cool. Many people will still call their store cupboard their pantry or larder and you can still find them in older houses.
About a hundred years ago, my mother-in-law's family had a fish stall at a huge market in Leeds and every night the stall holders would have to take their produce to a central ice house to keep it fresh. Ice was sold to the large houses who had staff from a wagon and this was used by the rich. The poorer people would buy their milk etc daily, collecting it in a jug.It was untreated, of course.
When I was small the milk would be delivered in a pint glass botttle by the milkman and his horse and cart.The horse would know the route and need no driving. He'd move along keeping level with the milkman - except for one day, for some unfathomable reason, the horse decided to bring the whole cart up the kerb, over the grass, to our front garden with bottles and crates flying everywhere and the milkman chasing behind. I learnt some new words that day!
By the way the only way to drink real ale is at pump temperature - then you can actually taste it!
Pauline
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09/24/2005 06:50:03 PM · #27 |
I thought this was a really interesting thread and I don't want to kill it so I'm bumping. Anybody else got memories or family tales to tell ablut life in the past?
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09/24/2005 08:04:47 PM · #28 |
| If you ever get a chance to go to an ice cuttng, go. It is fascinating. There are places that still cut ice, Vermont for one. First the snow is cleared off. THen the pond is scored. The "scorer" is a long thin gadget that makes a deep scratch in the ice, marking the pond into a grid of about 2 ft lines. It is hand pulled and weighted by five or six people sitting on it, Next wedges are drivien into the score lines and the cubes float off into the open space. (I forget hoe they got the first chunk out). Giant ice tongs fish the cubes out but the ice is heavy so several people hold onto the guy with the tongs to prevent him from falling in. Cubes are hauled out on sleds and packed in sawdust. They last well into the summer. |
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09/24/2005 08:19:05 PM · #29 |
There is an ice cellar at Kew Gardens, London, and one at Leeds Castle, Kent (I think) in which winter ice would keep through to the following winter. Huge rooms underground. Lots of ice.
Wordsworth's house, Dove Cottage, in the Lake District has a cool room, which is lower ground floor, half underground and deliberately situated directly above a stream: the water occasionally bubbles through the flagstones. It is still a cold room, even in the middle of summer.
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09/24/2005 08:40:19 PM · #30 |
this clay pot method is now being used in Africa to keep food fresher for a lot longer
it use two clay pots nested inside each other with wet sand in between and a wet cloth on the top
as the water evaporates out through the outside pot it cools the food stored inside the inner pot
more details can be found here about the inventer and the social implications of the spreading of this idea
Message edited by author 2005-09-24 20:41:48.
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09/24/2005 09:47:13 PM · #31 |
I was an only child and lived with my mother and dad in Eastern Kentucky,
I was 12 years old when we got electric .
We lived so far out in the country and had no neighbor's the electric co. would not run the electric out that far just for one house.
I remember dad milking the cow twice a day and bring it in the house and mom would strain it through a milk strainer and put it in a jar, put the jar in a water bucket and drop it in the open well hanging by a rope. It would keep all day.
Mom would skim the cream off the top after it separated.
She would put the cream in a stone churn and it was my job to churn the butter. ( So Sweet.)
When we got electric , It was $3.50 a Mo. flat rate
We had hog's , cow's , chickens, horses ect. canned our veg. and salt packed our pork and put it in the smokehouse. Dig a hole in the grown and put our potatoes in it to keep. We had a wood heating stove and a wood cook stove . It was hard work, but a good life.
Now most every winter our electric will be off for two or three weeks because of the Ice storms
I immediately click back into the old ways of cooking and cleaning and reading by oil lamps.
But I must admit that now days I do have bad withdrawals when I cant use my computer, camera. lol
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