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11/07/2002 02:43:45 AM · #1 |
| When selling, framing or presenting a photo - is it appropriate to sign the image as a painter signs his or her work; or is it more proper to have a signature placed on the matting? |
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11/07/2002 03:02:32 AM · #2 |
I would say that signing the matting would be better, as it doesn't ruin the photograph, but that's just my opinion. I'm not sure what the proper way to do things is.
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11/07/2002 03:09:29 AM · #3 |
Some places here on the net use signing on photos (like www.belgiumdigital.com) but I don´t think that´s nice. Better use a border (or two) - look at John S´s shots on the net or look here: www.pbase.com/cabe47/dpchallenge
* This message has been edited by the author on 11/7/2002 11:06:40 AM. |
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11/07/2002 09:01:10 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by Konador:
I would say that signing the matting would be better, as it doesn't ruin the photograph, but that's just my opinion. I'm not sure what the proper way to do things is.
Yup, sign them in pencil - it looks more authentic than a pen signature.
Also if you are doing larger prints, you might want to number them and
do limited editions... |
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11/07/2002 09:43:31 AM · #5 |
Gordon is right... signing the mat is the best practice in most cases... I title the photo on the lower left side of the mat... I sign the lower right with "J. Setzler 2002"...
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11/07/2002 10:55:36 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Gordon is right... signing the mat is the best practice in most cases... I title the photo on the lower left side of the mat... I sign the lower right with "J. Setzler 2002"...
...for another couple of months!
I usually create a border and include title and other info right on the photo surface on images I print (eiher personally or for sale)...that can then be covered by a traditional mat if desired.
I haven't sold any pre-matted prints (yet), but if you're going to attach your personal signature and/or print number, I believe in pencil on the mat is traditional with photographers, printmakers and limited-edition reproductions.
* This message has been edited by the author on 11/7/2002 10:53:19 AM. |
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11/07/2002 11:01:29 AM · #7 |
I do the same thing with the border on the images that i'm selling online. I create a .25" border all the way around the image and put my title and info in the lower right corner. The .25" border will be covered by the mat when the image is matted and framed....
Examples
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11/07/2002 05:21:53 PM · #8 |
wow you guys are selling prints of the photos you have taken? That's not only great but amazing... Do many people buy them? HOw did you get to have your pics put up for sale on that website? thanks and congrats!
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11/08/2002 02:16:45 AM · #9 |
| Thank you everyone for your input. |
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11/08/2002 05:19:07 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Anachronite:
wow you guys are selling prints of the photos you have taken? That's not only great but amazing... Do many people buy them? HOw did you get to have your pics put up for sale on that website? thanks and congrats!
I haven't sold very many... I think I have sold 13 so far on that website. Anyone can sell there... it's a one time fee of $25 to get setup. I want to sell locally but haven't gotten started with that yet.
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11/08/2002 05:26:52 AM · #11 |
JMSETZLER
Why do you use black border instead of white (not riticising, I know nothing, just curious, is it proven to be better or something??!?!) |
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11/08/2002 05:28:06 AM · #12 |
I sign on the lower right usually,so it IS visible when framed,as any 'great work of ART' should be.
* This message has been edited by the author on 11/8/2002 5:25:29 AM.
* This message has been edited by the author on 11/8/2002 5:25:42 AM. |
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11/08/2002 05:40:05 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by cbonsall:
JMSETZLER
Why do you use black border instead of white (not riticising, I know nothing, just curious, is it proven to be better or something??!?!)
It just seems that black works better than white on most of mine. I have only done one with white so far out of everything I have. On the prints I sell, the border color is mostly irrelevant when matted...
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11/08/2002 08:58:30 AM · #14 |
The other thing you should do if you are numbering
your prints is to 'start at the end'
so if you decide you are only going to make 50 prints of a
particular image, the first one is 50/50 and then you
work downwards to 1/50. Typically, the last 10% or so should
sell for about 2 or 3 times the price and if you are any good
the last one should go for about 30x the price!
Also it is worth considering what you are going to do with the
original files once you've made the 50th print. In many cases
photographers agree to destroy all of the originals/ backups etc
of the files so that the edition is actually limited and extra
prints will not be made. An alternative is to sign an agreement
that you will not make further prints for sale, but will keep the
image for personal use. Your mileage may vary. |
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11/08/2002 10:49:10 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by cbonsall:
[i]JMSETZLER
Why do you use black border instead of white (not riticising, I know nothing, just curious, is it proven to be better or something??!?!)
It just seems that black works better than white on most of mine. I have only done one with white so far out of everything I have. On the prints I sell, the border color is mostly irrelevant when matted...
[/i]
It is general practice that colour photos work well with black borders, and black and white photos work better with white borders, but that is not a solid thing.
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11/08/2002 10:53:39 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Konador:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
[i]Originally posted by cbonsall:
[i]JMSETZLER
Why do you use black border instead of white (not riticising, I know nothing, just curious, is it proven to be better or something??!?!)
It just seems that black works better than white on most of mine. I have only done one with white so far out of everything I have. On the prints I sell, the border color is mostly irrelevant when matted...
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It is general practice that colour photos work well with black borders, and black and white photos work better with white borders, but that is not a solid thing.
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That's an interesting comment :) When I matte and frame most of my prints, I use a white or off white matte, with a solid black frame... I have framed a few in black though...
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11/08/2002 11:52:13 AM · #17 |
| All of the large format photos I have purchased are signed. |
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11/08/2002 12:23:05 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Konador:
It is general practice that colour photos work well with black borders, and black and white photos work better with white borders, but that is not a solid thing.
Something that is often worth considering is using colour matts (is it mats, matts or mattes ?) with colour prints. Pick a neutral coloured
matt that picks out a colour in the picture and it can be very effective.
Black/white or grey work well for B&W images but there are other more
creative choices out there too that are worth considering.
A good backing/mounting board is also essential if you don't want your
pictures to look crap. Also don't fix more than one side of the
image to the matte, or it will warp and be horrible.
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11/08/2002 12:30:11 PM · #19 |
The foam core posterboard that they sell at walmart makes great backing material. It's not very easy to cut cleanly, but that is not visible when framed anyway... it is good and sturdy, and very inexpensive...
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11/08/2002 02:42:47 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Anachronite:
wow you guys are selling prints of the photos you have taken? That's not only great but amazing... Do many people buy them? HOw did you get to have your pics put up for sale on that website? thanks and congrats!
Thanks -- I've only sold a few small prints there too, but I've done no promotion as yet, either. As John said, there's a one-time fee to setup your account. There's a minimum production cost/print, and the artist sets the price above that, and you and the site split the profit. One advantage is that you can order your own prints at cost plus shipping, and they seem to have reasonable prices, as well as offering both glossy and matte finishes in a wide variety of standard print sizes. Sign up through DeviantArt.com first; then apply for the DAprints account. |
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