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09/09/2005 12:37:53 AM · #26
Typing through sleep deprived eyes here, but

the story of Joseph who was sold into slavery by his brothers is an example of God working when it wasn't obvious. End of Genesis beginning of Exodus, I think.

09/09/2005 12:42:39 AM · #27
Originally posted by taterbug:

Hey Dave :-)
Lot's of good advice here. I'd have to agree about starting with the gospels. Another suggestion is that there are a lot of 'studies' book form and 'puter software available. I just tried a quick search for free versions, couldn't find anything quickly. I have Comptons Interactive Bible on cd-rom. It is very comprehensive and has several options to guide you in a study that suits your goals.

Sites that specialized in "Free plus shipping" educational software usually have an intro package for kids for about $15.

If you start with the Gospels, note that three of them are almost the same ("synoptic" -- seeing with one eye), and one relates a markedly different tale. Dr. Asimov discusses this in his Guide ..., and that exerpt was reprinted in his Opus 100.
09/09/2005 12:49:49 AM · #28
Are there any spots ... that deal with what it says about keeping God close and watching over you? Or like the ways he may be working, but you just don't notice or whatever? That might not make sense, maybe I'll find it tomorrow if no one understands

I especially like Isaiah 49:14-16.

A great tool for searching the scriptures is //scriptures.lds.org/contents which allows you to put in phrases or key words and find those scriptures which contain those words. (It has a search feature, in other words.) It also allows you to search by topic or click words to referring scriptures.
09/09/2005 12:56:09 AM · #29
Don't listen to everything you hear. The King James Version is not that hard to read or understand. The language is archaic, but also poetic and romantic. If you can read Shakespeare you can read the King James Version. If you have trouble understanding Shakespeare perhaps a few college courses might benefit you.

1 Samuel, 2 Samuel, and 1 Kings are a great read if you like historical adventure. I enjoyed reading those books as much as I did reading about King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table.

If you like music and poetry then Palms, Song of Solomon, Lamentations and Ecclesiastes are a good read.

One book you can not leave out if you were to leave out any is perhaps the oldest book in the Bible and that is The Book of Job. Job best tells us that God is beyond any mere mortalís comprehension and I do often quote from it when some fire breathing theologian spouts at me how he knows Godís will.

09/09/2005 01:01:17 AM · #30
Originally posted by nsbca7:



Song of Solomon


*nodding* Good read....
09/09/2005 01:01:59 AM · #31
Personally I like the NIV translation.All the others(KJ,NKJ,ect.)are translations not interpretations.(II Peter1:20) Original language of the Old Testament was Hebrew,the New Testament was Greek and Aramaic, which Christ spoke.Like some of the others said the Gospels are good starting places to get a good understanding.As far as God watching out for you,Ps.34:18,Jer.23:23,2Ch.16:9Ps.34:7,91:4,Lk.21:18 are some examples.I hope these will help you some.
09/09/2005 01:08:09 AM · #32
When I became curious about all this, I picked up an old bible and started from the beginning. I read it sorta fast because I just wanted a feeling of what it had to say. Read it from beginning to end in a few months. Then I went back to the beginning and read it again. The next time I read it, I was able to begin to understand some more. Any of the prophets are great for showing God's love and plans. I don't think one can know God by just reading the New Testament because the Old Testament gives the history and why he had to devise a way to save this world. So I recommend that you read it all a couple of times and then really study the parts that interest you.
I like Daniel. He was certainly blessed by God.

Message edited by author 2005-09-09 01:10:09.
09/09/2005 01:11:47 AM · #33
Originally posted by pcody:

When I became curious about all this, I picked up an old bible and started from the beginning. I read it sorta fast because I just wanted a feeling of what it had to say. Read it from beginning to end in a few months. Then I went back to the beginning and read it again. The next time I read it, I was able to begin to understand some more. Any of the prophets are great for showing God's love and plans. I don't think one can know God by just reading the New Testament because the Old Testament gives the history and why he had to devise a way to save this world. So I recommend that you read it all a couple of times and then really study the parts that interest you.


Well said. That is about what I did.
09/09/2005 01:18:31 AM · #34
i recommend getting a study Bible. it will really help with the parts that are hard to understand or confusing. study Bibles are available in KJV and NIV and i'm sure there are other translations, too.

09/09/2005 01:22:40 AM · #35
kings james version misses a few books.
I have them here in one I haven't read yet, but they were apparently left out because king james felt they went against what he wanted the people to know.

so I really want to read them, and if you can find them, they may well be worth the effort of reading.
09/09/2005 01:31:59 AM · #36
Originally posted by cvt_:

kings james version misses a few books.
I have them here in one I haven't read yet, but they were apparently left out because king james felt they went against what he wanted the people to know.

so I really want to read them, and if you can find them, they may well be worth the effort of reading.


They are all missing a few books. Every version I have read picks and chooses what goes in.
09/09/2005 01:32:28 AM · #37
Daniel
daniel is very difficult to understand if you dont do your homework and know the history of what some of the things daniel says he sees in his dreams he has
daniel was the biggest eye opener for me, once it was explained to me that is
09/09/2005 01:37:59 AM · #38
After reading the "King James" translation for years and then the "New King James" translation, I have used the "New International Version" (NIV) translation and "The Message" Bible (which is actually a paraphrase). This was because of ease of reading and understanding.

I believe that a reading of the New Testament will be an encouraging thing. Congratulations on your desire to find out what it is all about. I trust that you will be well rewarded in your search.
09/09/2005 02:42:33 AM · #39
If you were to ask me for 1 book. I would point you to John.
(But I agree Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are a great place to start)

I do love Ecclesiastes, Job and Hosea.
As far as translation...

Sounds like your just planning on doing a lot of reading so I would suggest the TEV(Good News)or CEV.
Here are a few links talking about different translations and their uses.(for example NIV is middle of the road in that they try and convey they thought or idea, the meaning of what the orginals said while leaving as much word for word translation in as they can. Things like "The Message" or "The Living Bible" don't bother with any word for word stuff and just go all out paraphrase what was said to try and get the meaning across. While like the NASB(New American Standard Bible) try and translate as word for word. Which makes for great study of the bible. But really hard to just read it. Which is why for reading I suggested the two above. They don't go all out nuts paraphrasing but they do a rather good job of getting the meaning, thoughts and ideas across.)
Review 1 Reviews 2 Reviews 3 Chart Reviews Chart Reviews 2

As a note I really enjoy using these 2 online bible sites. Very useful.
NET Bible

Bible Gateway

Message edited by author 2005-09-09 13:05:29.
09/09/2005 02:58:44 AM · #40
try reading... "EQUATIONS OF ETERNITY" by David Darling...I love to read about reality, philosophy and science. Any Darling fans out there???? (not trying to hijack thread) but this does fit the topic of religion

Message edited by author 2005-09-09 02:59:38.
09/09/2005 03:16:37 AM · #41
Originally posted by gi_joe05:

I suggest starting with matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. These are the stories about Jesus and getting to know the charcter of Jesus is a good first step when it comes to reading the bible.
I recommend that as well.
09/09/2005 03:20:43 AM · #42
As added material I would suggest reading Bruce Feiler's books "Walking the Bible: A Journey By Land Through the Five Books of Moses" and "Abraham".

The former, an excellent read imho, puts the five books into a geographic, physical context that westerners don't normally see; the latter, an excellent listen (I have it on CD), attempts to explain Abraham in the context of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
09/09/2005 03:26:18 AM · #43
Originally posted by deapee:

So I got out my bible and I'm trying to read because it's something that I sort of want to get into...

I started out with a bit of Revelations, because of all the talk about it lately,


You normally don't start reading a book with the last chapter, do you? :-)
09/09/2005 03:27:11 AM · #44
I love reading the psalms in the King James version. Tasting the words and rolling them around in my mouth. I very often cry, when reading, at the beauty of what's written.
09/09/2005 03:59:00 AM · #45
I suggest you head over to //www.e-sword.net/ and download the application along with just about any of the popular translations mentioned in this thread. It's free. I strongly suggest that you download the King James Version with The Strong's Concordance so you can study in English with the ability to bring each word back to the original Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek. This is a very important tool. There are so many mistranslated words and it's very useful to be able to check what the actual word was in it's original language.

After you do that I suggest you start with either John or Luke. After that I suggest you go back to the OT and start with Genesis. Pay very close attention to the translation in early Genesis. If you don't get it right you can really get off track. From there just work your way through the rest of the Torah and on.

The reason why I suggest that you go back to the OT so early is because it's so difficult to understand Paul's teachings and The Book of Revelation without at least a basic understanding of the OT. In fact it's hard to fully understand the New Testament without understanding the Old Testament. Reading the OT will answer a lot of the "Why?" questions.

It's also a good Idea to find a Pastor who actually teaches.
Good luck and God Bless :)
09/09/2005 04:33:17 AM · #46
Originally posted by Riggs:

I have a very difficult time reading the Bible. Its hard to read, and I find myself getting bored and confused more then anything.

I hope just going to Church (sometimes) is enough.

: )


I used to feel this way too.

May I suggest trying the Chronological Bible. It was recommended to me, and is amazingly easy to read. I set out to read each day's passages, but find myself reading up to six days worth at a sitting. It is a fascinating way to read the Bible.

I am also listening to the Bible on CD (64 CD set) when I am in the car - it's wonderful to listen to, it's kind of "acted out" and has sound effects and music, I love it.

Linda
09/09/2005 05:50:13 AM · #47
i am a very religious person and go to "church" every week and have done for about 23 years (since i was a small child).

The Apostolic Fellowship of Christ this is the group I belong to and we use the King James version as this is the most accuratly translated version from the original Hebrew and Greek texts.

It can be a hard book to read due to the old english style it is written in, but once you understand the basics it is a good book full of interesting things - you can read something and think 'yes - that means such and such and can be related to such a place where something is happening today.'

I hope your quest to find things out deepea is as fulfilling as it has been for me.

If you have any questions let me know. - this goes for every one.

Edit -

Dont try to read too much in one go as this can be mind boggling and you won't reap the benifits - I read 3-4 chapters a day from different parts of the Bible, It is like having your 3 meals of the day, if you each too much you feel ill, if you do not eat enough you feel ill.

Just read small bits often and you will get great benifits from it.

Message edited by author 2005-09-09 05:53:49.
09/09/2005 05:51:25 AM · #48
Interesting thread for an "outsider" ie British, to read.

Dave, remember that the Bible is a Library of books, not a single book divided into chapters. Each book within it, is written by a different author, writen at a different time and in a different style. Also of course they were written in different languages and translated by different people with different agendas at different political times under the directive of different leaders. I agree the language of some is beautiful and it is worth enjoying the psalms in KJV purely for the "feel" of the language.

In another thread I asked about religious education in US schools and was told there is none. In UK we teach RE as a subject to learn about main line religions and discuss points. It does not mean you have to observe or follow these teachings, it is just a way of giving information about them. I think this means people grow up with some knowledge and experience that appears is not the case in the USA so you need to go out and find out about the the Bible at a later time by yourself if you are not involved in a church.

Pauline

Message edited by author 2005-09-09 06:37:28.
09/09/2005 05:55:14 AM · #49
For reading ease, I would suggest starting with the Message Bible, which is a paraphrase. It also does not have verse numbers and reads more like a novel. Once you start understanding the way the Bible is written and the different authors' symbolism, try different translations. I like the New Century Version (NCV), which was actually first written as a children's Bible. My husband and I teach 5th grade Sunday School and we look everything up in my Bible so the children can understand the meaning better. Even the NIV can be hard to understand sometimes.
09/09/2005 06:32:46 AM · #50
hello, I just began to read the "The Message" Bible. I have been a Christian all my life. Read many versions of the Bible and the Message Bible reads like a novel yet it's paraphrased..it's an enjoybale read. It challenges me to fully ubderstand what God is and His plan for Us. I recremend this bible along with a study bible. The Bible in it self is at times confuseing. However to get around confusement is to pray and have the Holy Spirit guide you throught the true context of God's word. I believe it's confuseing sometimes is because meanings for words have changed and or times have changed since then. This is just my opine. This topic can be very in depth for discussion. However, problems in this world and issue that we face at home, work, in socity in general remains the same issue as they were 2000 plus years ago. So does God's love, never changeing. Once people understand (takes time and seeking) how God IS Love, it will anwser our questions of our exsitance and purpose to this world and for each other.


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