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09/23/2005 03:11:04 PM · #1
When ever I need a good butt kicking I go to James. Its a pretty harsh book and gets me back on the Straight and Narrow. Also One thing I do is read through John and underline all of the promises God has for me try that and you will see how much God Loves you.

Have Fun
09/18/2005 07:12:38 PM · #2
hrmm...I picked up the "New Living Translation" today, and it is much easier to read and understand. I compared a couple different spots (is each spot called a passage?) and they seem to say the same thing, but this one is just much easier to read...thanks for that advice.

Still, someone mentioned back on page 1, Psalm 27...that's my favorite so far...rather reassuring!
09/15/2005 02:52:45 AM · #3
Originally posted by milo655321:

Originally posted by RulerZigzag:

And whats with the meds?


The mish-mash of talk about Armageddon, the 4th Seal, cyborgs, next evolutionary steps, computers inheriting the earth, man/A.I. hybrid organisms could reasonably lead a person to speculate about another’s mental stability.

Originally posted by fotoshootme:

Truth speaks volumes...


So do people with speakers that go to "11". ;)


I guess Im putting it in simple terms. There are cyborg's living today, we are slowly being consumed by technology , you dont have to read a mathematics book to do the math and reflect on revelations, and really read about the circle or life and how life is just like editing photos, layer upon layer.

maybe I should start taking some meds again

Message edited by author 2005-09-15 02:54:29.
09/15/2005 02:45:31 AM · #4
Hey, what can I say, the books I've read aren't quite the best seller that the bible is. I read and learn this, I am a realist..nothing wrong with reading good mythology for moral issues, besides I think the philosophy or Christ is some of the best and deepest of all, or at least what the writers wrote about and recorded during Jesus' life.
09/14/2005 11:57:29 AM · #5
Originally posted by milo655321:


Originally posted by fotoshootme:

Truth speaks volumes...


So do people with speakers that go to "11". ;)


That's the beauty of truth...it needs no ally (Thanks to Howard Chapnick for that beautiful line).
09/14/2005 10:57:30 AM · #6
Originally posted by RulerZigzag:

And whats with the meds?


The mish-mash of talk about Armageddon, the 4th Seal, cyborgs, next evolutionary steps, computers inheriting the earth, man/A.I. hybrid organisms could reasonably lead a person to speculate about another’s mental stability.

Originally posted by fotoshootme:

Truth speaks volumes...


So do people with speakers that go to "11". ;)
09/14/2005 09:48:45 AM · #7
Originally posted by KMD600:

The instant you want to know truth, truth is there. No need to look beyond your cirumstances.No need to pore through a book.

"Behold I stand at the door and knock"


Truth speaks volumes...
09/14/2005 12:42:40 AM · #8
I know animals communicate, but their way isnt as advanced as ours, that is why we are on top of the food chain . And whats with the meds?
09/13/2005 11:15:15 PM · #9
Originally posted by RulerZigzag:

it is communication which sets us apart from any other mammal.


Other animals communicate.

Originally posted by RulerZigzag:

I think Internet links humans today like never before. One computer is less powerful than a network of course, therefore the more brains linked through communication the more powerful we can become, this is why technology is advancing at rapid pace today, information is limitless and free and what used to take 10 years to develop now takes 1.


Aside from the part about limitless and free information, I more or less agree. Waves of “future shock” bear down upon the present and upcoming generations.

Originally posted by RulerZigzag:

We adapt quicker and are beginning to admit that computers and "artificial intelligence " are the next stages of the evolution of intelligence, and humans will probably become obsolete in a few centuries, that is if we dont wipe eachother out first. But I believe we have a lot of time before we become an extinct species, and we will be here untill computers and machines can operate on their own, and eventually inherit the earth, after an era of cyborgs and other man/A.I. hybrid organisms begin to spawn.


OK ... now it’s time to take your meds. The old ones have just worn off.

Originally posted by RulerZigzag:

We are still needed to direct and serve God by creating the next step in the evolution of conscience.


I think I could throw a virtual stone and hit several theosophists who would disagree with you.

Hmm … throwing stones at theosophists … I think I have an idea for a new game show …
09/13/2005 10:58:47 PM · #10
it is communication which sets us apart from any other mammal. I think Internet links humans today like never before. One computer is less powerful than a network of course, therefore the more brains linked through communication the more powerful we can become, this is why technology is advancing at rapid pace today, information is limitless and free and what used to take 10 years to develop now takes 1. We adapt quicker and are beginning to admit that computers and "artificial intelligence " are the next stages of the evolution of intelligence, and humans will probably become obsolete in a few centuries, that is if we dont wipe eachother out first. But I believe we have a lot of time before we become an extinct species, and we will be here untill computers and machines can operate on their own, and eventually inherit the earth, after an era of cyborgs and other man/A.I. hybrid organisms begin to spawn. We are still needed to direct and serve God by creating the next step in the evolution of conscience.
09/13/2005 12:23:07 PM · #11
Originally posted by RulerZigzag:

We are currently in the 4th Seal. Who thinks the end is near ? 25 years? or over 100? Post your predictions if you wish


According to current cosmology, assuming our model of the Second Law of Thermodynamics is correct and the Universe is a closed system, the universe will suffer "heat death" billions of years from now. However, aspects of our current understanding of gravity are incomplete and it is possible that the Universe will, instead, collapse into a “Big Crunch” billions of years in the future. As more evidence is accumulated and methodological techniques improve, a more precise cosmological model of the ultimate fate of the Universe will take shape.

I also foresee that people of various religious creeds will continue to make end of the world predictions and read current worldly events as fulfillment of their holy texts as they have done for centuries. I also predict that truly supernatural messianic figures will continue their earthly absence. Do these count as predictions?
09/13/2005 09:31:57 AM · #12
Originally posted by RulerZigzag:

We are currently in the 4th Seal. Who thinks the end is near ? 25 years? or over 100? Post your predictions if you wish


I could not claim to have any predictions of the "times" as "no man knows the time or the hour" of the return of the King. We are admonished to be ever vigilent so as to be "ready, as a slave awaits its master".

However, there are a couple of items that causes one to ponder further. At the 1st coming of Christ, the Romans had built roads throughout the known world and there was one international language (commoner Greek). This allowed the "word" to be spread via a common language and a road system allowing travel. Today, the world again has a common language (english) and world wide roadways (internet). If the 1st coming was contingent on these tools of communication, then it gives credence that the 2nd coming may also be in progress.

For your thoughts.
09/13/2005 02:23:45 AM · #13
We are currently in the 4th Seal. Who thinks the end is near ? 25 years? or over 100? Post your predictions if you wish
09/12/2005 09:46:24 AM · #14
Some further thoughts on reasons to consider the Bible as a worthwhile read.......

Although not a scholar, nor an expert on the various affected religions mentioned here, these are my thoughts (others may wish to fill in some of the blanks)

3 major world religions have a basis/foundation in the Old testament. Judiasm, Christianity, and Islam. These 3 faiths comprise a very large number of current and historic populations. The Torah, Bible, and the Koran each make reference to old testament prophets, claim lineages to Moses and Abraham, and regard Christ as an actual person (only Christianity regards him as "the" Messiah). Each of these religions are awaiting the coming or return of a Messiah. In the last several decades, many original texts have been uncovered (Dead Sea Scrolls) that are being deciphered/translated adding further credibility to the historical truisms recorded in scripture. Josephus ( 1st century historian) mentions a Christ figure in his writings.

As adults, we can choose a multitude of things. For those that wish to seek out answers, they are available to be found.

Seek and you will find. Knock and the door will be opened. Ask and you will receive.

Flash

Message edited by author 2005-09-12 09:47:57.
09/10/2005 07:08:31 AM · #15
Originally posted by briantammy:

What does "Holy" mean exactly? Why was it added to make "Holy Bible".


Holy means " belonging to, derived from, or associated with a divine power; sacred."

The word "Bible" is derived from the Latin word for "book."

-Terry
09/10/2005 06:05:34 AM · #16
Originally posted by briantammy:

What does "Holy" mean exactly? Why was it added to make "Holy Bible".


Holy meaning Hebrew

Holy meaning Greek

It is added becuase it is a book set apart by God so that people can come to Him and follow His commandments.
Hope this helps

Message edited by author 2005-09-10 06:06:45.
09/10/2005 05:50:03 AM · #17
The instant you want to know truth, truth is there. No need to look beyond your cirumstances.No need to pore through a book.

"Behold I stand at the door and knock"
09/10/2005 02:04:58 AM · #18
What does "Holy" mean exactly? Why was it added to make "Holy Bible".
09/10/2005 01:31:37 AM · #19
I recommend meditation, you don't need a bearded guru in the woods but look up some guides on the net on how to do it right. It takes a few practises (like, a month for me) to break through but once you clear you're mind and focus on something like your breathing the world just evaporates and it's very relaxing to be one with yourself. It's scientifically proven to help health as well, reducing stress and all that jazz.

There's monks that can meditate so well they raise their body temperature and literally burn away diseases in their body. I'm so gunna do it one day.
09/10/2005 12:10:09 AM · #20
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:


I have my beliefs - right or wrong, and my theory of the creation of the universe. Yes, we are created in the image of the Creator. However, that Creator is an alien and earth is a great big DNA test tube. So yes, we are descended from monkeys - the dinosaur experiment got canceled.

Look at that guy out there all alone in left field - hey he has a camera!


You're not necassarily alone out there. =)
09/09/2005 11:53:07 PM · #21
Originally posted by deapee:


Like I said, I don't know where to find it, but I'm looking. And I don't know about the churches in my area, they all seem to be HUGE million dollar establishments where you're frowned upon if you don't give as much money as the guy next to you...where the pastor or preacher or whatever drives a Lexus and all that sort of thing...I'd probably attend a 'church service' or get-together if it was like in some guy's basement and there were like 10 people and no one EXPECTED you to give money...and if someone did give money, it was done anonymously...but I wouldn't even know where to look.


Your statement made me think of these verses.... seems like God agrees with you on that point!
09/09/2005 11:42:26 PM · #22
My wife 'made' me join a church. We have kids now and she wants them to attend. I can't relaly argue, now can I?

She was raised catholic until her parents divorced and then 'turned' lutheran (see, the catholic upbringing? it comes out all the time). We visited many local churches - of all denominations. We joined the local Lutheran church - the people are very friendly and the pastor sounds like Mr Rogers. It is not wealthy...it is financially ill. Not a growing church, not a young church (member wise).

I had a brush with 'christianity' (the born again kind). I dated a BA christian. She was very much a hypocrit (to me - either you follow ALL of the teachings of Jesus or none - you can't just pick and choose to suit your mood). She did give me a NIV Bible taht i did try and read some of. Like other posts here, I found it a bit boring and hard to follow. I prefer the movie verions of the classic bible stories.

This is an intersting site (link to the quiz pages).
This quiz will align your beliefs with various religions. Not a perfect quiz (i wanted other options for answers) but it does show lots of possibilities.

I have my beliefs - right or wrong, and my theory of the creation of the universe. Yes, we are created in the image of the Creator. However, that Creator is an alien and earth is a great big DNA test tube. So yes, we are descended from monkeys - the dinosaur experiment got canceled.

Look at that guy out there all alone in left field - hey he has a camera!
09/09/2005 11:38:21 PM · #23
I'll mention two things deapee. First thing is a very good website at //www.biblegateway.com. It makes it easy to search words or phrases and also to compare different Bible translations.

Second, I suggest you start by reading ROMANS, and I also suggest that you buy a commentary to help you through that book. Paul's letter to the Romans is a good bridge between the law of the Old Testament and the new covenant of salvation by faith in Jesus the Messiah found in the New Testament. I advise you to try to understand the book of Romans as a whole. Paul lays out an argument throughout the entire book, and sometimes people make a mistake by extracting a point he is making without seeing how it fits into the whole argument.

If you're so inclined, why not go ahead and ask God for His
help, too, even if you aren't exactly a believer. Good luck in your search.
09/09/2005 11:33:05 PM · #24
Oh, also...

For all my life, it's been hard for me to believe. You see that one lady or guy that lost everything or whatever, but still stands firm and strong and knows that the Lord is going to provide them with everything they lost, and just knows that everything will be ok...that's the way I want to be.

EDIT: whether you call it an illusion or a false-belief, that's fine...but it seems to be working, and like I said, I want to find out for myself.

Message edited by author 2005-09-09 23:33:40.
09/09/2005 11:30:08 PM · #25
I hear what you're saying, Chris...

But, I want to see for myself, I know all about the whole 'faith' thing, and it's hard for me. I want to be one of those people that just KNOWS and who can feel God and have him LEAD me in the right direction. I don't know exactly how to get to that point, but I'm definately going to try.

--

I pretty much live my life pissed off all the time. I'm an angry person. If someone makes me mad, I don't hesitate to say something to them. I've been in fights for little to no reason at all other than someone pissed me off or I pissed someone off...I really need to grow up, and I really need to find calmness and start thinking about my future, and my future wife and future family.

Like I said, I don't know where to find it, but I'm looking. And I don't know about the churches in my area, they all seem to be HUGE million dollar establishments where you're frowned upon if you don't give as much money as the guy next to you...where the pastor or preacher or whatever drives a Lexus and all that sort of thing...I'd probably attend a 'church service' or get-together if it was like in some guy's basement and there were like 10 people and no one EXPECTED you to give money...and if someone did give money, it was done anonymously...but I wouldn't even know where to look.

I'm going to try and learn as much as I can and just find that way...then maybe get my girlfriend into it with me.
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