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09/05/2005 04:43:20 PM · #1
I must have missed the point here. I thought this was a photo challenge where we are to stretch and post pistures where we are using high contrast. Most of the the pictures I see here do not fit. It is as if someone was out and thought, wow, I just took a great picture. How about I put a snappy title on it and enter in the high contrast challenge.

Please, are we shooting for a magazine ad everytime or are we exploring the different facets of photography?

Not a rant. Can someone please tell me how the picture of someone standing at dusk with a beautiful sunset has anything to do with high contrast. (the sunset picture is hypothetical, not in reference to an entry)
09/05/2005 04:45:35 PM · #2
Is there high contrast between the elements in the picture? Whether colour or B&W, if so, then its high contrast!

Steve
09/05/2005 04:57:39 PM · #3
If you believe they aren't high contrast, vote them down or less than what you believe is high contrast.
09/05/2005 05:15:37 PM · #4
Yes, I will. But I must have missed the point. I was trying to figure out how I read it so wrong.

Thanks,
09/05/2005 05:54:34 PM · #5
I don't believe all are actually sunsets when looked close at. Before you/we start discussing someone's photo I'd suggest you wait until after the challenge is over then show the photo's in question in hopes that the photographer will comment on why or how they thought it fit the challenge.
09/05/2005 06:03:44 PM · #6
Originally posted by barndog:

Yes, I will. But I must have missed the point. I was trying to figure out how I read it so wrong.

Thanks,


You did not read it wrong. About 80% of the entries are just ordinary photos with little or no contrast enhancement. It may be that many DPCers have the contrast on their video monitors jacked up very high and everything looks 'high contrast'!
09/05/2005 06:08:48 PM · #7
Originally posted by ElGordo:


You did not read it wrong. About 80% of the entries are just ordinary photos with little or no contrast enhancement. It may be that many DPCers have the contrast on their video monitors jacked up very high and everything looks 'high contrast'!


Why in the world would you have to add "contrast enhancement". Can't you take a photograph that naturally comes out of the camera with high contrast? I would add that maybe to many people are looking for PS contrast instead of natural world contrast. Just my opinion.
09/05/2005 06:10:29 PM · #8
a : juxtaposition of dissimilar elements (as color, tone, or emotion) in a work of art

b : degree of difference between the lightest and darkest parts of a picture

it appears to me that most of the photos should easily meet one or both of those criteria. Open your mind a little and you'll be surprised what you find. there are some fabulous images in there.
09/05/2005 06:26:01 PM · #9
Originally posted by barndog:

Yes, I will. But I must have missed the point. I was trying to figure out how I read it so wrong.

Thanks,


You may have missed the point. What is your definition of high contrast? I just looked at the first 20 images in the challenge and 2 would be below what I would consider high contrast.
09/05/2005 06:49:16 PM · #10
i thought mine was high contrast but obviously others dont. Please open your mind a little like Pedro said not for the sake of MY score but for others.
09/05/2005 06:58:52 PM · #11
Originally posted by lentil:

i thought mine was high contrast but obviously others dont. Please open your mind a little like Pedro said not for the sake of MY score but for others.


You can open your mind all you want but your eyes are the truthsayers...there aren't a lot of hc images...plain and simple
09/05/2005 07:00:17 PM · #12
Originally posted by fotoshootme:

Originally posted by lentil:

i thought mine was high contrast but obviously others dont. Please open your mind a little like Pedro said not for the sake of MY score but for others.


You can open your mind all you want but your eyes are the truthsayers...there aren't a lot of hc images...plain and simple


I must of misunderstood what it meant then
09/05/2005 07:01:33 PM · #13
Originally posted by Pedro:

a : juxtaposition of dissimilar elements (as color, tone, or emotion) in a work of art

b : degree of difference between the lightest and darkest parts of a picture

it appears to me that most of the photos should easily meet one or both of those criteria. Open your mind a little and you'll be surprised what you find. there are some fabulous images in there.

Pedro, you're the man.
Nuff said.
09/05/2005 07:39:34 PM · #14
so all of you all are going to change my score to 10 now, right? ;)

(all y'all for the southerners here:)


09/05/2005 07:47:35 PM · #15
Originally posted by dahkota:

so all of you all are going to change my score to 10 now, right? ;)

(all y'all for the southerners here:)


I don't know. Let me think about. First I hve to close the winders cause it's starting to rain. I was going to cook up a mess a grits an taters first, but after I finish with all that I'll get back to ya.
09/05/2005 07:52:53 PM · #16
Originally posted by jrtodd:



Why in the world would you have to add "contrast enhancement". Can't you take a photograph that naturally comes out of the camera with high contrast? I would add that maybe to many people are looking for PS contrast instead of natural world contrast. Just my opinion.


I AGREE WITH THIS TOTALLY!!! I tried to come up with an entry with high contrast that still looked like a natural photograph. I was afraid that if it was too High Contrast in PS, people would vote it low because of it looking like a graphic and not a photo. Boy was I wrong!
09/05/2005 07:52:53 PM · #17
I knew mine wasn't high contrast per se. It has highly saturated colours but it's not really contrasty. There were so many people trying to push their vision of what high contrast is before the challenge that I entered something that didn't fall into any of the definitions.
09/05/2005 08:03:39 PM · #18
Originally posted by Joey Lawrence:

Originally posted by Pedro:

a : juxtaposition of dissimilar elements (as color, tone, or emotion) in a work of art

b : degree of difference between the lightest and darkest parts of a picture

it appears to me that most of the photos should easily meet one or both of those criteria. Open your mind a little and you'll be surprised what you find. there are some fabulous images in there.

Pedro, you're the man.
Nuff said.


You could say every photo on this site fits this description? No much creativity to that......
09/05/2005 08:08:32 PM · #19
I disagree... I am giving out a LOT of 10s and high scores this challenge. High contrast is not limited to b&w with no details - there is some fantastic work to be seen here, and most of it does a great job of meeting the challenge.
09/05/2005 08:09:21 PM · #20
Originally posted by azoychka:

You could say every photo on this site fits this description? No much creativity to that......


I've read some of the comments you've left on photos and I must say they need some work or at least some creativity.
09/05/2005 08:12:25 PM · #21
Originally posted by notonline:

Originally posted by azoychka:

You could say every photo on this site fits this description? No much creativity to that......


I've read some of the comments you've left on photos and I must say they need some work or at least some creativity.


Ah yes the personal attack.......good for you notonline! Well done! Very admirable! So what the heck is a high contrast photo if every photo fits the bill?
09/05/2005 08:40:41 PM · #22
i can't believe the audacity of some people ^

barn - most are not high contrast in my opinion either.
My opinion is thus -
Originally posted by mesmeraj:

For me regarding the B&W images if there are more shades of grey than there is black and white - it is not high contrast.

The greyscale bar at the bottom of the voting page IS NOT high contrast. Its a greyscale.
If you took the First box and the last box and lined them up, that would be high contrast.
If you have covered every box in the grey scale, you havent made a high contrast picture Imho.

High contrast in colour is a lot easier to judg, i think. Your looking for soild, conflicting colours - ie ones that cannot fade into each other.
Red and green are high contrast
Aquamarine and turquoise are not high contrast.
I think this one is a good example

Sure the hair isnt truely black, but there are two prodominent tones white and the just shy of black in the hair, with two or three greys to fill in the details.
whereas your picture of Shelby

would not be high contrast because you have the full tonal range of black and white as you go accross her face.

[just imho]


There are entirely too many Shelby style tonal images in this challenge. They might be really great photos, but this was a technical challenge (for the most part there are some very clever non technical high contrast photos in there) and a whole lot of people missed the technique.
09/05/2005 08:49:31 PM · #23
Well, at first, I thought similarly: that so many photos were not high contrast. But I'm starting to open up a bit to what OTHERS may interpret as "high contrast".

When I did a google search for "high contrast photography" I got a lot of photos that I felt fit the bill more than many of the entries here, but like I said, I'm warming up to them if I see some contrasty elements.
09/05/2005 08:49:43 PM · #24
I know what you are all saying, but the challenge description does not say computer generated high contrast. High contrast can be found through out nature and in households. As far as i am concerned, i won't vote down on images because it's colour. know thats my personal opinion, we all have our own, but i think people should open their minds a bit, thats all i'm asking... a tiny bit!
09/05/2005 08:53:37 PM · #25
Since everyone's debating high contrast I'm going to give my .02. (This isn't an attempt to justify my entry - mine's not even b&w and I haven't had anyone say it doesn't fit the challenge yet; I just want to explain my POV on this.)

To me, high contrast can occur when there is a nice grey range, as long as it has elements that contrast against one another, and there is an overall "feel" of high contrast. For instance, I would consider these two photographs high contrast:



Despite the tonal range, the very dark/very light elements are pitted against one another in such a way that it creates an overall sense of high contrast. I would also call these high contrast:



because of the contrasting colours/tones/elements. There could also be representations of contrast without actually displaying a tonal/colour contrast (i.e. a moral contrast).

I don't really think this requires much additional thought, either. These are pretty obviously high contrast IMO.
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