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11/01/2002 05:50:11 AM · #1
"The negative is the equivalent of the composer's score, and the print the performance." - Ansel Adams

Click Here to learn more about Ansel Adams....

11/01/2002 08:02:48 AM · #2
Now this quote I like a lot.
11/01/2002 08:38:22 AM · #3
I like it, except I've read it so often in the past year I'm approaching
being sick of hearing it. Certainly none of Adams' work would be considered DPC legal :)
11/01/2002 08:41:00 AM · #4
I think his digicam also used an 8"x10" CCD... ;)


11/01/2002 08:54:02 AM · #5
Some of the earliest "digital cameras" were 4x5 sensors which mounted in place of a film holder on a standard studio camera. File size = 130MB. Exposure time = 5 min.

I too like but am maybe overly familiar with, this quotation. I apply it a lot.

* This message has been edited by the author on 11/1/2002 8:53:12 AM.
11/01/2002 11:10:35 AM · #6
So, does that mean that everyone here on DP challenge is performing without a score?
11/01/2002 11:17:37 AM · #7
Looks to me like we've written the score but never get to perform it.
11/01/2002 11:36:58 AM · #8
Your 'performance' is your finished image after you have made your desired modifications to it :)
11/01/2002 12:11:39 PM · #9
I think DPC is more like the acoustic version....
11/01/2002 12:40:09 PM · #10
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Your 'performance' is your finished image after you have made your desired modifications to it :)


Exactly - but in the context of dpc not all of your desired modifications may be allowed - you can of course still perform your score, just do it without the woodwind section and only half of the strings you had envisioned :-)

11/01/2002 02:05:18 PM · #11
The quote is not specific for dpc... Don't limit your abilities to what you can do here... This site is just one way to use your photos... :)
11/01/2002 02:22:09 PM · #12
It's a coincidence you should say that, John. Just last night I was going through some shots of mine, thinking what I might like to make of them. For a while, I was rejecting a bunch of the ideas my mind came up with because --- they weren't dpc legal! And none of the images would ever apply here, of course, because of the date issue. Eventually I realised what I was doing and went back over them; but it is amazing how easily one's mind can be lulled into a ceretain path!
11/01/2002 05:05:26 PM · #13
I think a lot of people probably get into that mindset here. I know I did for a while... I just finished working on one image where I did quite a bit of spot editing and I felt guilty about it :)

11/01/2002 09:44:47 PM · #14
Originally posted by Gordon:
I think DPC is more like the acoustic version....

So, instead of DP Challenge, we could be DP Unplugged!


Yea, yea, I know it was corny, but . . .


11/01/2002 10:22:54 PM · #15
Originally posted by karmat:
Originally posted by Gordon:
[i]I think DPC is more like the acoustic version....


So, instead of DP Challenge, we could be DP Unplugged![/i]

Might be hard to view photos and cast votes unplugged...
11/03/2002 01:36:36 PM · #16
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I think a lot of people probably get into that mindset here. I know I did for a while... I just finished working on one image where I did quite a bit of spot editing and I felt guilty about it :)



Although we don't need to feel guilty about spot editing,(outside dpc) adhering to the DPC rules certainly are training us to shoot more selectively. That is always a sound discipline. Allowing ourselves to conform to the rigid requirements can only improve our work. Then once outside the confines of dpc, we have the liberty to manipulate, edit, and do whatever we want, but we will have learned to use our cameras better than before dpc perhaps. Working with a good picture to begin with will be more rewarding in the long run.

Comments???
11/03/2002 02:04:01 PM · #17
I am so new to this, I was having the hardest time keeping wihtin the legal size requirements. Let alone the other filter stuff.
11/03/2002 02:41:26 PM · #18
Originally posted by shohn:
I am so new to this, I was having the hardest time keeping wihtin the legal size requirements. Let alone the other filter stuff.

Yes...I understand how you feel. I had the same difficulties but being forced to comply has taught me, and is continuing to teach me more than I'd learned in years. Shohn, hang in there. You won't regret it.
11/03/2002 04:16:25 PM · #19
The only time I have ever felt guilty about it is when I use cropping to get rid of undesired elements because it reminds me that my original composition sucked :-) I think people should use cropping as minimal as possible and instead work on the original composition during the time of the photo taking. As far as spot dodging and burning, as long as the 100% of the photograph isnt' spot edited (i.e. you completely missed the exposure), then i don't feel bad :) Most of the time I had to use a linear gradient to get the photos to look good because i don't have a graduated neutral density filter to compress the light/shadow ratio during sunset/sunrise hours between the foreground andt he background.

Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I think a lot of people probably get into that mindset here. I know I did for a while... I just finished working on one image where I did quite a bit of spot editing and I felt guilty about it :)




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