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10/28/2002 11:31:18 AM · #1
For the people with DSLRs, probably mostly directed at those with a 1.6x
multiplier or so.

What lenses do you use ? What lenses would you recommend ?

Mainly interested in what would be recommended for a Canon D60 and
please try to comment on the types of photography you favour...
10/28/2002 11:37:05 AM · #2
I just got my Nikon D100 a couple weeks ago. I already had a 35-80mm and a 70-300mm for my old 35mm camera. I was concerned about the 1.5x multiplier, so I got a 24-120mm with the new camera. The wide angle effect of the 24 (now "36") seems quite sufficient to me. I am enjoying the fact that the 300mm is now a 450, too :) Sorry that I don't know much about the Canon lenses, but I thought maybe the basic comments about the lens length might help...
10/28/2002 11:46:24 AM · #3
Originally posted by alansfreed:
I just got my Nikon D100 a couple weeks ago. I already had a 35-80mm and a 70-300mm for my old 35mm camera. I was concerned about the 1.5x multiplier, so I got a 24-120mm with the new camera. The wide angle effect of the 24 (now "36") seems quite sufficient to me. I am enjoying the fact that the 300mm is now a 450, too :) Sorry that I don't know much about the Canon lenses, but I thought maybe the basic comments about the lens length might help...

Thank you - the basics are good too ! :)
10/28/2002 11:49:07 AM · #4
I have a Tamron 90mm 2.8 Macro lens for my D60 that Im enjoying. The macro is a great portrait lens as well as its obvious macro usage. I also have the 35-80 Canon 4/5.6 lens which makes a good all purpose type lens. The only draw back to the 1.6 multiplier, is the use of a true wide angle lens.
11/25/2002 01:45:11 AM · #5
I use a 85mm 1.2 lens that works Great for almost everthing.. it is fixed, but it is so quick and accurate.
11/26/2002 06:44:06 PM · #6
I love the 1.5 multiplyer. I use a 300 f-2.8 which is a 450 F-2.8 on the nikon D-1x along with a matching 2x teleconverter so that is a whopping 900mm f-5.6 lens. and my nikon 200mm f-4 macro is now a 300mmf-4 macro. and the 80-400 VR and the 80-200 f-2.8 also are better off with the multyplyer. for wide angles i use a 8mm ,16mm ,17-35 zoom and a 28-80 f-2.8 zoom so the wide angle thing is well covered
11/26/2002 07:01:42 PM · #7
Originally posted by kendall:
I love the 1.5 multiplyer. I use a 300 f-2.8 which is a 450 F-2.8 on the nikon D-1x along with a matching 2x teleconverter so that is a whopping 900mm f-5.6 lens. and my nikon 200mm f-4 macro is now a 300mmf-4 macro. and the 80-400 VR and the 80-200 f-2.8 also are better off with the multyplyer. for wide angles i use a 8mm ,16mm ,17-35 zoom and a 28-80 f-2.8 zoom so the wide angle thing is well covered

You are making me drool! LOL... I WOULD LOVE A 300 f-2.8! :-) and your wide angle lenses are amazing! I really have my tongue hanging out of my mouth! HEHEHE... I'm looking at getting a 80-200 f-2.8 for my D1H, that will be the one I use most for sports... but right now I use a 70 - 300 f. 4.5 (I think didn't look) and it is a very good, less expensive, all around lens, especially if you pair it with a 35-105 macro. Just a suggestion!
11/26/2002 07:03:41 PM · #8
What are you? A billionaire? haha! Nice equipment :)

Originally posted by kendall:
I love the 1.5 multiplyer. I use a 300 f-2.8 which is a 450 F-2.8 on the nikon D-1x along with a matching 2x teleconverter so that is a whopping 900mm f-5.6 lens. and my nikon 200mm f-4 macro is now a 300mmf-4 macro. and the 80-400 VR and the 80-200 f-2.8 also are better off with the multyplyer. for wide angles i use a 8mm ,16mm ,17-35 zoom and a 28-80 f-2.8 zoom so the wide angle thing is well covered


11/26/2002 09:20:39 PM · #9
Originally posted by RiderGal:
You are making me drool! LOL... I WOULD LOVE A 300 f-2.8! :-) and your wide angle lenses are amazing! I really have my tongue hanging out of my mouth! HEHEHE... I'm looking at getting a 80-200 f-2.8 for my D1H, that will be the one I use most for sports... but right now I use a 70 - 300 f. 4.5 (I think didn't look) and it is a very good, less expensive, all around lens, especially if you pair it with a 35-105 macro. Just a suggestion!


The 80-200 is my most used lens. mostly cause the background is so blured out, it looks air brushed at f-4 and the plane of focus is tack sharp at F-4 and the colors really pop with that lens
11/26/2002 09:28:04 PM · #10
Originally posted by Gordon:
For the people with DSLRs, probably mostly directed at those with a 1.6x
multiplier or so.

What lenses do you use ? What lenses would you recommend ?

Mainly interested in what would be recommended for a Canon D60 and
please try to comment on the types of photography you favour...


I have a D60 with three canon lenses, 17-35, 28-80, and 75-300,
I took them all with me today and used the 17-35 for landscape scenery at a local goeological park and then pulled out the 75-300 to zoom in on some deer
i still need a monopod as some of the zoomed in shots with mulitplyer effect 400M or so were a bit blurry. Photoshop helped with the unmask filter though.
i also did family portrait shot yesterday with the 28-80, and plan on using that lens on saturday for a family of 14 but may need wide angle.
let me know if you need more info.

oops almost forgot the wide angle/macro converter that goes on my 25-80 that I used to shoot my Got Milk? shot

* This message has been edited by the author on 11/26/2002 9:57:24 PM.
11/26/2002 10:03:08 PM · #11
i also use a fuji s1 and the most versatile of all the lenses i have for that is a nikkor (Nikon) 28-105/3.5 AF-D.

acceptably wide at the short end and acceptably long at the other, esp with the 1.5x multiplier.

It also has a macro switch, to change the focus range, and does pretty adequate macro shots.

I think it was around $350.

For real macro we have a 105mm Nikkor macro prime. that was about $600. very sharp and bags of DOF considering it stops down to f/45 :).
12/07/2002 04:40:42 PM · #12
I have a D60 & the following:

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS -- image stabilization is wonderful, close focus/macro is @ 1.5ft, w/ the 1.6 multiplier, 210mm @ 1.5ft is close enough for me!!

Canon EF 100mm f/2 -- darn great portrait lens. used it on a film body 1st, the multiplier extends it a bit far (160mm @ f/2), but still very nice (& small too... a lot of reach for a normal looking lens). if i were buying one again for a DSLR, I'd step down to the 85mm f/1.8.

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 mkII -- cheapest lens Canon makes that you can buy... EXCELLENT performance for the money. extends to 80mm w/ the multiplier.

I've got my eye on the 16-35mm f/2.8 but i don't need it nor can afford it... the set I have now is wonderful.

Message edited by author 2002-12-07 16:41:18.
12/14/2002 04:05:15 AM · #13
Here the run down for the D60 that I like:

Tamaron SP 14mm Aspherically Corrected Wide angle (I can take a side shot of a 22ft long truck from only 12ft).

Canon 28-135 EF IS USM (This lens gets wonderful color, and the IS is a life saver).

Canon 100-400 EF IS USM (With the 1.6x multiplier it rate in at about 640mm. You can almost see the future).

Tamaron 2X SP AF (Makes the 400mm an 800mm. With the 1.6x it's about 1280mm. AF doesn't work with this one, but it can be very useful with wildlife shot. The IS still works just fine. :-)

My wife has banned me from buying any new lenses for a while. :-(

With the 1.6x I get coverage at 22mm (14mm) and 44mm to 1280mm.

For Canon telephoto lens stick with the L series if you can afford it. It's well worth it.
12/14/2002 11:53:07 AM · #14
awsome dltruex, hey does the L series come with IS internal to the lenses or is it a switch on the outside?
thanks also how many bones are we talking about with the 400MM one from canon?
12/14/2002 12:43:48 PM · #15
I use two D1x, to which I just had the new buffer and firmware upgrades added yesterday. Lens-wise, I use many: AFS 17-35 f2.8D, AFS 28-70 f2.8D, AFS 80-200 f2.8D, VR 80-400 f4.5-5.6D, 28mm f1.4D, 50 f1.4, 60mm f2.8D Micro, 105 f2.0 DC, 200 f2.8D micro, 500 f8.0 mirror, 1,000 f11 mirror, and a TC-20E AF-II x2 tele-converter.

My favourite is the 80-400 VR, a truly amazing lens with the vibration reduction feature. Canon has a similar feature for some of their lenses. I hardly ever use the 80-200 anymore. I also love the two catadioptric lenses, but it is much too cold outside to use them. Yes, you must be outdoors to use these long lenses, as they need loads of light and a subject that is far away. I once used the 500mm for portraits, the results where amazing - very unique.

I shot an image of the moon with the 1,000mm on an x2 converter and the D1x for 3,000mm effective focal length.

I enjoyed 21 comments in the “Something Old” challenge, most said that I cropped too close. But, the image was “as shot”, not cropped for size, just shape! Most of my DPC submissions are with the AFS 28-70 f2.8D. If I had just two lenses, they would be the AFS 28-70 f2.8D and the VR 80-400 f4.5-5.6D. A great combination.

My style for a favourite image is one that is close-in on the subject, a picture that isolates a single subject in the scene. I do not like cluttered or busy images - simple is best for me.

My wife says that I have a chemical dependency, it just happens to be with "Photo Chemicals" instead of drugs. Don't get me started about my film cameras or medium format stuff. Yes, I need to get a life.

Besides all of this wonderful equipment, I am still a fairly poor photographer. So, the best advice is that the tools do not make a great image, the creativity of the photographers' mind’s eye does.

Moon at x60 magnification
12/16/2002 02:37:19 AM · #16
Randy,

The L has a switch on the side for IS. The 100-400 zoom has two modes. Mode 1 stablizes in all directions that the lens moves. Mode 2 only stablizes in the direction that the lens is not intended to move (ie. If you pan side to side, the lens stablizes up and down).

Doug
12/19/2002 05:57:23 AM · #17
When I got my D-30 last year I went with the "Standard" combination of Sigma 17-35 EX and Canon 28-135 IS. The 17-35 is really good for buildings and landscapes etc, and the 28-135 is a general purpose "lives on the body" lens.

Since then I have got a 50mm prime, which is very good at making you think what you want for the shot. And some extension tubes for macro work.
12/19/2002 10:39:24 AM · #18
I can't wait to get a hold of a Canon 50mm F1.4 for my D30. The folks on DPReview swear it's the best you can get without going L. For $300 it's still within most people's budget (that is if you can afford a D60). I just want a really nice portrait lens. My 28-135 IS is nice, but isn't as sharp as I'd like it to be.
12/19/2002 11:00:30 AM · #19
I went with the 24-85, 50mm f1.8 ($60!) and a 70-200 f4L

I may end up getting something wider at some point but probably next two items would be a 100mm Macro and maybe a 1.4x extender.


12/20/2002 12:24:37 AM · #20
I have two questions, 1st where can you get a 50MM f1.8 for 60 bucks and second why would a 50mm 1.4 be sharper than a 28-135 IS lens set at roughly 50mm, assuming studio lights
and 1/125 shutter speed? thanks...
12/20/2002 11:42:52 AM · #21
Originally posted by rll07:

I have two questions, 1st where can you get a 50MM f1.8 for 60 bucks and second why would a 50mm 1.4 be sharper than a 28-135 IS lens set at roughly 50mm, assuming studio lights
and 1/125 shutter speed? thanks...


Normal EF 50mm f/1.8 II Autofocus Lens is $64.95 at bhphoto.com for the
grey market import. I don't really care about warranty issues on something that costs that much. It would be easier/cheaper to replace than
to send back for repair.

A prime lens in general will be sharper than a zoom lens at the same
settings, just because there is less glass in the prime lens. Of course
this varies with materials/ coatings etc, but in general more glass =
worse pictures.

The 50mm prime has 5 Groups and 6 elements in the lens, while the
IS lens has 12 groups and 16 elements. That's a whole lot more glass to introduce distortions/ blurring.

12/20/2002 01:45:34 PM · #22
Worth mentioning is the fact that the 50mm F1.4 is better quality than the F1.8... if I remember correctly the F1.8 has a plastic lens and a much slower autofocus. Correct me if I am wrong.

on edit: I think it's the MOUNT that is plastic.
See here for a comparison.

Message edited by author 2002-12-20 13:56:31.
12/20/2002 03:35:26 PM · #23
That said, the photographer is still more likely to be the limiting factor than the lens [is]. :)



Originally posted by Gordon:



... That's a whole lot more glass to introduce distortions/ blurring.


Message edited by author 2002-12-20 15:36:26.
12/20/2002 05:23:38 PM · #24
thanks, after my photo rocky mountain moon, got the comment "This should be called rocky mountain BLUR", i started investigating newer IS type lenses, I found an awesome one and bought the
canon 100-400 L IS 4.5...if you wanna see samples click here ...by the way Rocky Mountain 'Blur' won photo of the day today... ha ha payback is so sweet!!100-400

Message edited by author 2002-12-20 17:33:54.
12/20/2002 06:46:17 PM · #25
Originally posted by bamaster:

Worth mentioning is the fact that the 50mm F1.4 is better quality than the F1.8... if I remember correctly the F1.8 has a plastic lens and a much slower autofocus. Correct me if I am wrong.

on edit: I think it's the MOUNT that is plastic.
See here for a comparison.


Yup, the f1.8 is a slower autofocus and a plastic body/ manufacture. However it is $65 vs $300 and still probably better quality/ sharpness than any of the non-L canon zooms.
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