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08/24/2005 11:28:31 PM · #1 |
OK we all know that gas is high but it is higher than you think it is? Is the price on the signs the same as on the pumps? And more importantly are they charging the same price when you go in to pay?
Today I went to top off the gas in my car. Here are the facts, tell me what’s wrong.
Sign at street: Regular $2.559/gal.
Gallons pumped: 10.000 gallons
Pump price: $28.00 Total
When I went inside to pay: $28.00
What’s wrong with the above? More importantly is it happening throughout the US and are people checking there receipt?
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08/24/2005 11:30:56 PM · #2 |
I would go to your local tv station and let them know.
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08/24/2005 11:33:57 PM · #3 |
| i hope you took photos because it is against fair trade to charge more than the advertised price |
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08/24/2005 11:37:41 PM · #4 |
I got my money (the difference back) after confronting the manager. I told a friend about it and he went about an hour after I did to get gas at the same station to see if they were still doing it and they had the right prices then. He paid $2.55.9/ per gallon.
But if it was a mistake or not, how many times has this happened to people and they didn't know? Demand a receipt and review it before leaving. |
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08/24/2005 11:51:37 PM · #5 |
thanks for the heads up, I usually ignore the signs and look at the price on the pump, but usually dont compare pump display # to what im being taken for.
I have to fill up on my way to work so I will make a not of sign, pump and receipt and I will report back
James
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08/24/2005 11:55:59 PM · #6 |
Hm. I drive as little as possible, so I only have to load once every few months on average, but I've never had this happen to me, and I'd notice, because I enter my fuel stats into a PDA program called pFuel... including the total price, and it amuses me to check the price per gallon that it calculates against the stated value. It's never been off.
It may have been a rare, short-lived software glitch at that one station. |
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08/24/2005 11:56:14 PM · #7 |
| I think the bigger question is: Did you actually get 10 gallons? |
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08/24/2005 11:57:09 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by jab119:
thanks for the heads up, I usually ignore the signs and look at the price on the pump, but usually dont compare pump display # to what im being taken for.
I have to fill up on my way to work so I will make a not of sign, pump and receipt and I will report back
James |
People in Michigan are complaining about gas price cheating, but there are only 16 inspectors for the whole state.
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08/24/2005 11:57:33 PM · #9 |
Our petrol at the moment is $1.25 a litre. Absolutely insane!
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08/25/2005 12:00:47 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by lentil:
Our petrol at the moment is $1.25 a litre. Absolutely insane! |
That's cheap compared to most places in Europe.
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08/25/2005 12:03:18 AM · #11 |
I don't see how people do it in big cities like LA when the news said that the price per gallon had reached $4.00. With all the congestion on the highways, it has to be costly.
At least here (where I live) even though area wise we are about as big as central Atlanta you can get pretty much anywhere in the city within 30 min. Plus having a car that gets about 28mpg helps. |
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08/25/2005 12:11:09 AM · #12 |
| I'm more annoyed that we still use gas / oil in the first place on as large a scale as we do. |
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08/25/2005 12:18:20 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by rscorp:
I'm more annoyed that we still use gas / oil in the first place on as large a scale as we do. |
In the US we all should be looking at E85 or other alternate fuels but the oil companies have the government in their back pockets. It sucks!!! Only certain vehicles can run on E85 gas.
E85 is Ethonal 85 made out of corn and such. We should be putting money back into the farmers pockets and not depend on other countries for our supplies.
I feel better now! |
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08/25/2005 01:08:24 AM · #14 |
We've been paying roughly double of what you pay for gas NOW, for decades, over here in Europe...
Ever thought about what that might be all about?
To me it looks like the US gas prices are finally going up because even politicians and oil companies can no longer deny that oil reserves ARE decreasing. On top of that, new economies like China want a piece of the cake, too - just look at the global steel market...
America has failed to build cars with a better mileage, the Japanese haven't. They're even building them in your own country, because that won't affect them regarding your president's high taxes on steel and import cars.
They still brought innovative products to the US and the environmentally conscious American can no longer be lured into buying American gas guzzlers like trucks and SUVs, if he/she doesn't need one of these big cars.
Sales for large, heavy automobiles are stalling. And if it wasn't for the financing that GM and Ford are offering, they'd be DEAD. The only reason they're surviving, or have survived so far, WITHOUT adding "green" cars to their lineups (like Toyota's or Honda's hybrids) is because of their "attractive" financing options.
The whole Zero down, Zero interest for X amount of time and Zero I don't know what is just plain stupid. But apparently not stupid enough to make Americans get more reasonable cars. And why would they, with gas prices being so low.
Had our gas prices increased the same way as yours lately, we would now be at more than 6, yes SIX US$ per gallon.
That's why, over here, driving a heavy, big, American car or other SUV is strictly for the rich folks who can afford the necessary gas. Financing is totally in proportion to the value of the car, regardless of brand or type. We hardly have any trucks/pick ups because there are much more economical alternatives, like Japanese or German light trucks or larger vans with gas consumptions of about half of what a Dodge RAM needs to simply wake up in the morning.
Another interesting thing is that our lowest Octane gas is 95 ROZ, the higher one 98 and the top stuff, inspired by Formula one racing, more than 100.
Gas prices like ours make people think about their car's MPG BEFORE they sign some ludicrous financing plan and even if gas prices did go up, and they would and did whenever the global oil price climbed, one could still afford the gas because no European would buy a car that does less than 30 MPG.
The latest releases by Volkswagen, Audi, BMW and, more importantly FRENCH manufacturers, whose cars I've hardly ever seen in the US, sizes between a small Saturn and a Toyota Camry, get around FIFTY miles out of one gallon of Diesel fuel. The engines that have been developed lately allow diesel to be a VERY clean fuel. Nothing like the black smoke monsters thundering down American interstates.
To me it is no surprise that the hybrids are big in the US but almost never seen over here. The difference in mileage compared to a modern gas/diesel car just doesn't justify the hefty price tag on the hybrid.
Phew, sorry this became such a long post.
I hope it gives you some insights, globally speaking. That's what I miss most when I read news from and in the US. I lived in NYC for 2 years and then travelled the West for 7 months, in a Dodge Camper Van, and the gas prices out West in 2003 were already hard to take. Not because of the price but because of the crappy mileage we got out of that van...
All the best to you all and please, next time you buy or choose a car, give the MPG some thought. Less than 40MPG for a simple commuter car (think Toyota Camry or BMW 300-series, Audi A4, Volkswagen Jetta etc.) is not only going to make your ride an expensive one, but, in many an environmentally conscious citizen of this earth's eyes, an irresponsible one, too. Less than 50MPG for a compact IS A SCANDAL!
Please, NO OFFENSE, anyone. I was just trying to state my views and tell you why we're so amused if not baffeled over here, when we hear the howling and whining starting when your gas prices increases to roughly half of what we've been paying for years.
Bruno, Zurich, Switzerland, formerly NYC, NY, USA |
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08/25/2005 02:57:03 AM · #15 |
Good point from AzCrazy:
Instead of raising your beef with corn, which is TOTALLY unnatural and screws up their digestion big time (that's why you have to give'em antibiotics when you feed them corn), you could use it as fuel and thus still support your local farmers instead of the oil fields and countries elsewhere in the world. Then all you'd have to do would be cutting down on petro-chemical fertilizers and uneconomical farming gear to cut oil consumption yet another bit.
Oh, and guess what: you could let the cattle roam on the prairie again, because you wouldn't need to build more oil refineries there or drill for oil in the most beautiful corners of your country. And you know what that would do to human health? You wouldn't be all drugged up on and thus resistant to the antibiotics you feed to your cattle. So the next time you'd be sick, medicine might actually be able to help...
Just some thoughts roaming freely, associating and connecting things I've read and heard in different places.
Cheers,
Bruno |
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08/25/2005 05:09:59 AM · #16 |
AU$1.34 a litre here (for 98 octane)
US$2.80 a gallon I'd be so happy!
without reading all of beegee's post (infact a 30s flick over it)
raises a question...
450 -> 600 kilometers per 28 liters, city and highway driving...
That I find acceptable, what I had before 400 -> 500 per 68L of LPG wasn't.
How can people afford to drive those pointlessly huge and dangerous tanks!?
and how much do they drink?
I fail to see the point in complaining about petrol prices when you have a ugly tank that drinks 3 times as much petrol as it should be, just to be a bigger vehicle on the road to compensate you lack of driving skills?! (I don;t know how to use my mirrors.. maybe if I had bigger wheels I could drive over them)
another question... do US use LPG in road vehicles yet? |
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08/25/2005 06:16:09 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by AzCrazy:
Originally posted by rscorp:
I'm more annoyed that we still use gas / oil in the first place on as large a scale as we do. |
In the US we all should be looking at E85 or other alternate fuels but the oil companies have the government in their back pockets. It sucks!!! Only certain vehicles can run on E85 gas.
E85 is Ethonal 85 made out of corn and such. We should be putting money back into the farmers pockets and not depend on other countries for our supplies.
I feel better now! |
just about every car made today is fully capable of running on E85. With just a few adjustments. A few months ago I found this out wile looking into alt fuels.
whats amazing for most other cars for under $200 you can convert it to run on vegetable oil or bio diesle. the problem is finding these alt fuels
James |
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08/25/2005 10:48:45 PM · #18 |
What's even harder to catch is that there is a computer chip unethical gas vendors can buy and install in their pumps that will under pump what the pump shows. Even worse, it will pump correctly at the 1, 2, and 5 gal points and then cheat the hell out of you in between. The reason for that is that goverment inpectors check and calibrate the pumps with a certain size container (1,2 or 5 gallons) but will not catch the short changing going on in between those quantites.
I saw a whole expose' on it on one of those news programs a few years back. Since then I only purchase gas at corporate run stations that I feel good about. |
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08/25/2005 11:10:32 PM · #19 |
| The difference between Europe and most of the US is that Europe has a functioning mass transit system. Where I live, when the bus schedule says it arrives at the stop at 1:30, you better be there at 1, and be willing to wait an hour, because the schedules don't work well. We have no subways. Interstate railways suck. |
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08/26/2005 12:02:30 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by BeeGee:
Sales for large, heavy automobiles are stalling. And if it wasn't for the financing that GM and Ford are offering, they'd be DEAD. The only reason they're surviving, or have survived so far, WITHOUT adding "green" cars to their lineups (like Toyota's or Honda's hybrids) is because of their "attractive" financing options.
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The scary part is that I dont think you are right about this. I work in the industry(not sales but I do see what is selling). Trucks are huge in my area. I hear people complain about gas prices alot but almost never here of someone considering mpg when buying a car. There are no regulations on truck mpg right now, they aren't even rated on most full size trucks. I would guess they get 12-14mpg tops. We send people to space for months but can't build a truck that gets 20mpgs? Come on. drives me nuts.
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08/26/2005 12:21:15 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by Niten:
Originally posted by BeeGee:
Sales for large, heavy automobiles are stalling. And if it wasn't for the financing that GM and Ford are offering, they'd be DEAD. The only reason they're surviving, or have survived so far, WITHOUT adding "green" cars to their lineups (like Toyota's or Honda's hybrids) is because of their "attractive" financing options.
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The scary part is that I dont think you are right about this. I work in the industry(not sales but I do see what is selling). Trucks are huge in my area. I hear people complain about gas prices alot but almost never here of someone considering mpg when buying a car. There are no regulations on truck mpg right now, they aren't even rated on most full size trucks. I would guess they get 12-14mpg tops. We send people to space for months but can't build a truck that gets 20mpgs? Come on. drives me nuts.
Tim |
If I drove a truck, I'd be all about that new hybrid (I think it's a GMC) that has 110V AC outlets so you can run power tools, a TV or whatever off of the electrical power system. If the battery level drops off too much the gas engine will start to recharge them. No need to carry along an unwieldy generator if you have to work out in the boonies, you're driving it.
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08/26/2005 12:21:46 AM · #22 |
| I don't know if it will happen but if we have to go back to gas rationing like in the early 70's then people with low MPG vehicles will put in a position of having to make a decision. |
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