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08/24/2005 01:05:09 PM · #1 |
Present an image that shows some difference in your world or the world around you that has been directly impacted by what happened on September 11, 2001 and the events it has since triggered.
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08/24/2005 01:08:04 PM · #2 |
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08/24/2005 01:10:00 PM · #3 |
Nothing. It's local to America. Canada is still letting in people that the states wouldn't and we have no added security. Altho I did get caught shooting downtown by the GO transit police from the railroad tracks. lol
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08/24/2005 01:10:57 PM · #4 |
| Sorry to dissent, but I think the world has changed enough for the worse as a reaction to 911. I'd prefer a 'tolerance' challenge... or 'courage' or 'peace'. |
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08/24/2005 01:13:31 PM · #5 |
Easiest challenge I could ever do...
Born September 11, 2001
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08/24/2005 01:15:21 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by notonline:
Nothing. It's local to America. Canada is still letting in people that the states wouldn't and we have no added security. |
You mean it's local to the US? Tell the people in the UK, Spain, Iraq, Italy, Afghanistan, or Kuwait that it's local to the US.
The fact that Canada is letting in people who have been blocked from entering the US would be something in itself IMO.
Message edited by author 2005-08-24 13:16:13.
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08/24/2005 01:16:26 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by notonline:
Nothing. It's local to America. Canada is still letting in people that the states wouldn't and we have no added security. |
You mean it's local to the US? Tell the people in London, Spain, Iraq, Italy, Afghanistan, or Kuwait that it's local to the US.
The fact that Canada is letting in people who have been blocked from entering the US would be something in itself IMO. |
lol turn on the news its happening more then you think. All were wooried about is becoming another L.A. and profiling people of ethinc origin. especailly to the carribean descent.
Message edited by author 2005-08-24 13:17:20.
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08/24/2005 01:16:52 PM · #8 |
| Imagine the rant forum threads if this challenge went ahead! |
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08/24/2005 01:17:56 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by toddhead:
Easiest challenge I could ever do...
Born September 11, 2001
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THIS is what we should focus on...she's a beauty! |
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08/24/2005 01:19:40 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
Imagine the rant forum threads if this challenge went ahead! |
So when as photographer do you think it is best to back away from controversy and dissent?
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08/24/2005 01:22:15 PM · #11 |
if you were wanting to do a challenge like this (and personally i would not) it shouldn't be 9/11. That was just for America, it didn't change the rest of the world. For Au/NZ/Bali it was early 2002, for London it has been here recently, for the middle east it has been happening constantly since before the gulf war. The middle east has suffered far more from terrorism and its ramifications than anyone in the western world. And that is just Islamic fundermentalist based terrorism, completely ignoring the religious wars that have been ravaging Ireland for decades.
And it's (9/11) my b'day too ;)
Message edited by author 2005-08-24 13:45:30. |
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08/24/2005 01:38:01 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
That was just for America, it didn't change the rest of the world.
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What? It hasn't effected the rest of the world? Do you think that what happened in London had nothing to do with the US and UK reaction to 911? There is a cause and effect for everthing and the world reaction to 911 has had a global impact in some way, small or large.
Message edited by author 2005-08-24 15:03:09.
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08/24/2005 01:44:55 PM · #13 |
I think the point is that the US is one of the few countries where "Post 911" is used in a sentence. Nobody else has it on the tip of their brains like we do. Do our Israeli friends really consider the world pre-911 and post-911 or do they count time this way in N. Ireland or Baghdad? I'm pretty sure the "world" didn't "change" for people in Indonesia on 9/11.
I agree that it would be an interesting topic, but wouldn't it be like the freedom challenge - where all the US entries get smacked by non-US and all the non-US get smacked by US voters who don't "get" it? If you want to take pictures like this for a reason, to stir controversy and dissent, nobody is stopping that - but as a challenge, it's going to be difficult.
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08/24/2005 01:48:39 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
That was just for America, it didn't change the rest of the world.
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What? It hasn't effected the rest of the world? Do you think that what happened in London had nothing to do with the US and UK reaction to 911? There is a cause and effect for everthing and the the world reaction to 911 has had a global impact in some way, small or large. |
I grew up for some time in the middle east, so no, i don't beileve 9/11 changed the world because 10 years earlier i had already been personally affected by this same war. 9/11 was just one bump on a road that had already been travelled for years. The only change was it brought it into americans own back yard so they could not ignore it any more.
Edit to add emphasis - i said change not effect.
Message edited by author 2005-08-24 13:52:41. |
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08/24/2005 01:52:48 PM · #15 |
I have never owned one, so I don't know how a post 911 would feel...
/jerk |
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08/24/2005 01:58:41 PM · #16 |
| I personally thin 9/11 in the US has and did make a difference around the world. Just remember the third of Sir Issac Newton's laws of physics, "Every Action has an Equal and Opposite Reaction". |
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08/24/2005 02:00:27 PM · #17 |
I agree with Elli. 9/11 wasn't the beginning. It was a culmination of a lot of things. If relating to Newton's Laws I would say 9/11 is one of the reactions.
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08/24/2005 02:05:34 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
I'm pretty sure the "world" didn't "change" for people in Indonesia on 9/11.
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Have you asked anyone from Indonesia, or bothered to research what you are saying or was "Indonesia" just off the top of your head?
Bali 911 "safety and welfare" fund.
The bombs that went off in Bali in 2002 were aledgedly linked to al-Qaeda as an attack on western interests in reaction to the US invasion of Afhganistan.
Here is a list of people and thier nationalities that were killed in the Bali blasts.
Australian 88
Indonesian 38 (the majority Balinese)
British 26
American 7
German 6
Swedish 5
Dutch 4
French 4
Danish 3
New Zealanders 3
Swiss 3
Brazilian 2
Canadian 2
Japanese 2
South African 2
South Korean 2
Ecuadorian 1
Greek 1
Italian 1
Polish 1
Portuguese 1
Taiwanese 1
The blasts have been nicknamed by many in that part of the world as "Australia's September 11" because of the number of Aussie casualties.
Perhaps you should have picked Pogo-Pogo as a better example. Oh, wait - they are part of the Coalition of the Willing and have troops in Afghanistan!
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08/24/2005 02:08:14 PM · #19 |
| I'm not even sure what kind of subject matter would be good for this type of challenge. I guess if you live in NYC you could take a picture of increased security measures, but honesty, not too many of those. Where, the subways? the airports? And what are the authorities going to think about that? Probably take you down to central booking as a possible terrorist. Pictures of jets in the sky? I think I would prefer a flower and baby and cat challenge. |
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08/24/2005 02:09:30 PM · #20 |
| the bali blast was not called "Australias September 11" in Australia. America is the only country i've lived in that refers to Islamic fundermentalist terrorism as 9/11. Most countries recognise it as being the bigger picture of a Jihad that has been been going on for decades (my original point). |
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08/24/2005 02:09:59 PM · #21 |
There'a a whole lot of possible "Post [insert date]" challenges. OK, it was September 11 for the Americans. How about Tiananmen for the Chinese? How about the bombing of the villages for the Libyans? How about the flight KAL-007 for the Koreans? How about the Sri Lanka earthquake? Venezuelan mudslides (50,000 dead)? Burundi massacres (a million murdered)?
Oh, there's plenty of days that changed the world. Every other day does that for millions of people. |
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08/24/2005 02:10:37 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
I think I would prefer a flower and baby and cat challenge. |
Or maybe another "Got Milk" challenge, hey? Oh, those challenges always get me so stirred up and motivated.
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08/24/2005 02:10:55 PM · #23 |
I just love to see it when people say in other words what happens to the US is because of something we done. The US has helped more countries out of situations than any other country. Has the US alway been right in doing some of the thing she does, NO. But picture a world that had no help from the US, none. That would be a sad day for a lot of countries and it would sadden me. I would just like to of know what actions would of been taken by other countries if over 3000 citizens were killed in the span of a few hours on one day in one of there major cities.
It is easy to sit back and say what you would of done 4 years later because hindsight is 20/20.I will exit now because I don't want to turn this in to a rant forum. Sorry for hijacking the thread (if I did).
Message edited by author 2005-08-24 14:13:15. |
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08/24/2005 02:11:02 PM · #24 |
A picture of someone in uniform with their hand up to block your lens and an OOF building/bridge in the background. At least, from the stories, this is the situation in the states.
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08/24/2005 02:14:36 PM · #25 |
lol...
Can't disagree with you here, I didn't enter "got milk." And I do like controversy, especially of the political kind, but I'm just not sure of the kinds of subject matter that you have in mind.
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
I think I would prefer a flower and baby and cat challenge. |
Or maybe another "Got Milk" challenge, hey? Oh, those challenges always get me so stirred up and motivated. |
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