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08/22/2005 04:31:30 PM · #1
I saw last month that Nikon had filed for a trademark on the name "D200".

Now I have more info- Ads will start soon. available in late Sept

Effective pixels - 12.4 million
Image sensor - CMOS sensor, 23.7 x 15.7mm size, 12.84 million total pixels
Image size - Full Image: 4,288 x 2,848-pixel / 3,216 x 2,136-pixel / 2,144 x 1,424-pixel
High Speed Crop Image: 3,216 x 2,136-pixel / 2,400 x 1,600-pixel / 1,600 x 1,064-pixel
Sensitivity - ISO equivalency 100 to 800
Storage media - CompactFlashô (CF) Card (Type I/II) and Microdriveô
LCD monitor - 2.5-in., 235,000-dot, low-temp. polysilicon TFT LCD with white LED backlighting
Exposure metering - 3D Color Matrix MeteringII , Center-Weighted Metering and Spot Metering
Exposure Modes - Programmed Auto (Flexible Program possible)
, Shutter-Priority Auto , Aperture-Priority Auto and Manual
Interface - USB 2.0 (Hi-Speed)
Power requirements - Rechargeable Li-ion Battery EN-EL3a, Quick Charger MH-18a, AC Adapter EH-5 (optional), Multi-Function Battery Pack MB-D200 (optional)
Dimensions (W x H x D) - Approx. 157.5 x 121 x 85.5mm (6.2 x 4.8 x 3.4 in.)
Weight - Approx. 810g (1 lb 13 oz) without battery and storage media
A further expansion of this information also has the following:
DX Format with 12.4 effective megapixels
The new CMOS image sensor features high image quality and high-speed 4-channel data output
New image processing algorithms combine with optimized analog and digital white balance to produce smoother, more consistent gradations with exceptionally pure color reproduction
Continuous shooting: 3 frames per second (fps) at 12.4 megapixels for up to 10 consecutive NEF (Nikon Electronic Format) images; 5 fps for 18 NEF images at 6.8 megapixels
3D-Color Matrix Metering II with ambient light sensor and 1,005-pixel RGB sensor further improves on Nikonís acclaimed exposure metering system
High-speed, high-precision 11-area AF system with 9 cross-type AF sensors deliver quick response and sharp focus, even under the most challenging shooting conditions
Two new Adobe RGB color modes further expand professional color space options and also support for sYCC color space
Excellent response with instant power-up and ultra-fast 52ms shutter release lag
Top shutter speed of 1/8,000 second and flash sync speeds up to 1/250 second
Faster read/write speed for the memory card and a USB 2.0 Hi-Speed interface for faster image transfer
Large 2.5-inch LCD monitor for easy access to settings and information, as well as clear, flicker-free image preview
Creative in-camera effects, Image Overlay and Multiple Exposure
Functions such as World Time, automatic rotation of vertical compositions expand possibilities
Lightweight, durable magnesium body
Full support for Nikonís Creative Lighting System when used with the SB-800 or SB-600 Speedlights
In addition to DX Nikkor lenses, the D200 supports more than 50 AF Nikkor lenses
Nikonís PictureProject software is included, enabling easy control over image adjustment and management
Support for Nikon Capture 4 (version 4.3), a software application with the tools to assist the professional photographer
NEF (RAW) format for the utmost in versatile, effective image control and correction
JPEG and NEF (RAW) Combination Filing System enables simultaneous recording of NEF and JPEG data for the same shot

Estimated price is $1300

It's close enoough to a D2X for me.
08/22/2005 04:35:04 PM · #2
Originally posted by spydr:

...Sensitivity - ISO equivalency 100 to 800...


Seems a bit low. Most would probably like to see it go up to ISO 1600 or even 3200.
08/22/2005 04:40:30 PM · #3
Crap! And I just bought the D70s back in May. How am I going to explain this want to my wife???
08/22/2005 04:41:11 PM · #4
It seems that unless you are a pro D70 is the best value.
08/22/2005 04:55:21 PM · #5
Originally posted by spydr:

I saw last month that Nikon had filed for a trademark on the name "D200".

Now I have more info- Ads will start soon. available in late Sept

What or who is the source of this great news?

JV
08/22/2005 04:55:40 PM · #6
looks like straight-on competition for the 20D, just what I needed! At $1300 this is really great news!

I have to maintain my focus now though - glass first, really great glass first, then a new body! If you see me at a camera store fondling a D200, please remind me I want glass FIRST!

Thanks for the post, great news.
08/22/2005 05:06:27 PM · #7
LIGHT is more important than camera or the lens. (I keep telling that to myself as I look at 12-24 f4 at $900)
08/22/2005 05:07:38 PM · #8
Originally posted by Kaizen:

Originally posted by spydr:

I saw last month that Nikon had filed for a trademark on the name "D200".

Now I have more info- Ads will start soon. available in late Sept

What or who is the source of this great news?

JV


Read about the trademark thing online. Got the specs from a chat room on Nikonians. Get the release date and info on ads from my local dealer. The Nikon rep was at the store about 20 min. before me. My dealer said he was really tight lipped with the info though.
08/22/2005 05:11:13 PM · #9
Compared w/ the D70, this is a big heavy camera:

Dimensions (W x H x D) - Approx. 157.5 x 121 x 85.5mm (6.2 x 4.8 x 3.4 in.)
Weight - Approx. 810g (1 lb 13 oz) without battery and storage media

Not good, not bad, just different.

Message edited by author 2005-08-22 17:12:36.
08/22/2005 05:14:54 PM · #10
Originally posted by digitalknight:

looks like straight-on competition for the 20D, just what I needed!

Thanks for the post, great news.


So is the D70,

The only thing I dont like is the 1/250 flash sync speed.
08/22/2005 05:15:30 PM · #11
I agree the 100-800 ISO seems very low. I don't get it but I bet it will be one of the biggest complaints that they'll need to address asap.

That won't hold me back though. I'll probably hold one in a store for like, five minutes...panic....begin to sweat...start howling like a werewolf...break out the credit card...and wham, become a new D200 owner. Either that or a silver bullet between the eyes?

I can feel the pressure already....I won't be able to hold out past December, I bet. Like a full rising.
08/22/2005 05:39:50 PM · #12
Originally posted by pawdrix:

I agree the 100-800 ISO seems very low. I don't get it but I bet it will be one of the biggest complaints that they'll need to address asap.

That won't hold me back though. I'll probably hold one in a store for like, five minutes...panic....begin to sweat...start howling like a werewolf...break out the credit card...and wham, become a new D200 owner. Either that or a silver bullet between the eyes?

I can feel the pressure already....I won't be able to hold out past December, I bet. Like a full rising.


It will be hard for me to resist too.

The ISO is not a draw back for me though. I rarely use higher than 200 and never higher then 400. I think the flash sync speed sucks. 1/250 is pretty slow.
08/22/2005 05:41:20 PM · #13
Where are the rest of the specs. The things that would make a difference to me would be FPS and burst rate to name a few that were omitted.

[quote]Continuous shooting: 3 frames per second (fps) at 12.4 megapixels for up to 10 consecutive NEF (Nikon Electronic Format) images; 5 fps for 18 NEF images at 6.8 megapixels[/quote]

Nevermind.

Message edited by author 2005-08-22 17:46:21.
08/22/2005 05:49:52 PM · #14
Continuous shooting: 3 frames per second (fps) at 12.4 megapixels for up to 10 consecutive NEF (Nikon Electronic Format) images; 5 fps for 18 NEF images at 6.8 megapixels

I don't think this was made to compete with the 20D. Nikon still has the d70 for that. This will go on a level with Canon's new 5D. With exception for the 5D's FF sensor they should stand toe to toe. Many of the specs look much better then those of the 5D.
08/23/2005 08:56:20 PM · #15
Estimated price is $1300.
That is too low... For those specs, I would add $1300...
08/23/2005 09:06:41 PM · #16
I thought all the drueling (5D, 30D 1D Mark IIIIIIII, etc)was for us Canon guys. Nice to see the Nikon shooters foam and drip a bit.
08/24/2005 02:43:43 AM · #17
Looks like the specs for the next camera I was waiting for. Too bad I've a boatload of Canon glass. Too lazy to sell all my lens and accessories to change platforms. If it's really gonna sell for $1300, then 20D sales will probably crash.
08/24/2005 02:49:55 AM · #18
I don't think the ISO 100-800 is a problem. It is good to see it go down to 100 (instead of only 200 like the d70). Also, if needed, you can always 'cheat' with the ISO and just change the exposure level.
08/24/2005 02:53:27 AM · #19
Originally posted by md8speed:

Also, if needed, you can always 'cheat' with the ISO and just change the exposure level.

I'm not sure what you mean...Do you mean underexposing the shot for a faster shutter speed?
08/24/2005 03:20:15 AM · #20
Originally posted by justin_hewlett:

Originally posted by md8speed:

Also, if needed, you can always 'cheat' with the ISO and just change the exposure level.

I'm not sure what you mean...Do you mean underexposing the shot for a faster shutter speed?


Sounds like a lot of noise to me.
08/24/2005 03:25:35 AM · #21
Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by justin_hewlett:

Originally posted by md8speed:

Also, if needed, you can always 'cheat' with the ISO and just change the exposure level.

I'm not sure what you mean...Do you mean underexposing the shot for a faster shutter speed?


Sounds like a lot of noise to me.


That's basically what the "ISO" setting does on the camera anyway. The sensor has a fixed sensitivity, raising the ISO just amplifies the signal from the sensor. So you can achieve a very similar effect by underexposing the shot and raising the levels later, with the caveat that the ISO sensitivity setting can be better because it happens before RAW/JPEG processing and storage.
08/24/2005 03:33:52 AM · #22
this is just I am waiting for!!!
08/24/2005 03:39:08 AM · #23
Originally posted by skylen:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by justin_hewlett:

Originally posted by md8speed:

Also, if needed, you can always 'cheat' with the ISO and just change the exposure level.

I'm not sure what you mean...Do you mean underexposing the shot for a faster shutter speed?


Sounds like a lot of noise to me.


That's basically what the "ISO" setting does on the camera anyway. The sensor has a fixed sensitivity, raising the ISO just amplifies the signal from the sensor. So you can achieve a very similar effect by underexposing the shot and raising the levels later, with the caveat that the ISO sensitivity setting can be better because it happens before RAW/JPEG processing and storage.


It's not as simple a trade as that. Upping the ISO does amplify the current in the sensor, but underexposing does not. Underexposing will cause significantly more noise then raising the ISO setting. I've tested this on both my 1Ds and on a 300D. Plus you will lose a noticable amout of shadow detail that is non-recoverable by underexposing.
08/24/2005 03:40:07 AM · #24
Originally posted by justin_hewlett:

Originally posted by spydr:

...Sensitivity - ISO equivalency 100 to 800...


Seems a bit low. Most would probably like to see it go up to ISO 1600 or even 3200.


The specs on the D2X also say 100-800, but 1600 and 3200 are available as "H1" and "H2" when a certain custom setting is enabled. I bet it will be the same on the D200.
08/24/2005 03:46:10 AM · #25
$1300?! holy cow, if that turns out to be the actual price...
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