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08/12/2005 10:02:54 PM · #1
I am getting about 100 SPAMs in my e-mail. As soon as I delete them, a dozen SPAMs appear again within 10 minutes. Can I get rid of them?
08/12/2005 10:03:18 PM · #2
Best solution I've found is to change your e-mail :(
08/12/2005 10:16:06 PM · #3
Brian is right. But it also depends on how you view your e-mail and who the carrier is. In Outlook and Outlook Express you can block e-mails. I usually block domain names (it's faster). If you want a gmail account I can send you an invite. I don't get ANY spam in mine, yet.
08/12/2005 10:22:42 PM · #4
I've had the same e-mail address since 94', and I would love to get 100 spams a day. I get abot 800-900 that aren't removed by my isp, and probably twice that is caught by their spam filters. I keep the same address because I did some work for a band that sold thousands of CDs with my e-mail in the credits. As long as I get business from it I'lkl just have to deal.
08/12/2005 10:59:08 PM · #5
this is a crazy story. one of my friends showed this to me a couple weeks ago. it's about this russian spam guy. //www.mosnews.com/commentary/2005/07/26/spamassassin.shtml
08/12/2005 11:14:17 PM · #6
well since you are getting spam now its a little late. your email address has been sold several times and not much you can do besides getting spam filter program.

I have my own domaine, they provide some spam protection, but not much. They recently switched email software and I have a little more control of what I can block, but most of it is a manual process. I have turned on my "catch all" feature so any email that is sent to either of my domaines that is not a working email address I will know about it. These spammers make up the craziest email address. I still get junk to about 5 email address I have not used for over 2 years.

if you have not done so you need to do the following:

1. remove you email address from EVERY message board you are subscribed to.

2. Never display your email address on ANY web site and or web page.

3. Tell your friends and family to QUIT sending you chain letters. Get mean and nasty with them and blam THEM for your spam problem. It worked for me and they still talk to me.

4. NEVER click the un-subscribe link in a spam email - this just lets them know your email adress is a valid email address. And you will get even more spam.

5. Have multiple email address, 1 for family and friends, 1 for photography, one used for billing when you place orders on the web. and a few "disposable" email address for just junk. I have about 10 to 15 email address.

James
08/12/2005 11:19:33 PM · #7
Like James, I have a 'junk' email address that I use when I need to give it out for any reason. I also got a gmail address and so far it's clean.
08/12/2005 11:19:55 PM · #8
I've posted this a million times before so sorry if you've already seen it but if you own your own domain with multiple aliases, it's super easy to avoid spam. What you do is create a new address for every site you sign up at. For instance, my address here is dpc@mydomain.com. At amazon, it's amazon@mydomain.com, etc. All of these addresses forward to the account that I actually use.

This allows me to do two things when I get spam: 1. Know which site it's coming from and/or who is selling my address 2. Delete that account without having to completely change my address on every account I have, plus email everyone in my contacts with a new address.

It's worked perfectly for me so far. I rarely get spam and if I do, that address is zapped and the problem ends before it began.
08/13/2005 12:09:28 AM · #9
i made the mistake of having my "real" email address live here on dpc for about 1 week. that's the only place it's ever been published, and i use a junky freebie account for signing up at most sites and stuff.

now i get a bunch o' spam. and since it's my "real" address, i can't change it very easily (business cards and stuff). :(

stoopid email harvesters!
08/13/2005 12:15:26 AM · #10
whats gmail?
08/13/2005 12:17:16 AM · #11
Originally posted by oOWonderBreadOo:

whats gmail?


Google's email. gmail.google.com It's "invitation only" but everyone in the world has 29392929 invites so it shouldn't be hard to get one if you want. :)
08/13/2005 12:20:04 AM · #12
Originally posted by mk:

I've posted this a million times before so sorry if you've already seen it but if you own your own domain with multiple aliases, it's super easy to avoid spam. What you do is create a new address for every site you sign up at. For instance, my address here is dpc@mydomain.com. At amazon, it's amazon@mydomain.com, etc. All of these addresses forward to the account that I actually use.

This allows me to do two things when I get spam: 1. Know which site it's coming from and/or who is selling my address 2. Delete that account without having to completely change my address on every account I have, plus email everyone in my contacts with a new address.

It's worked perfectly for me so far. I rarely get spam and if I do, that address is zapped and the problem ends before it began.


lame question: how do you get all these addresses to forward?
08/13/2005 12:21:43 AM · #13
Originally posted by pidge:



lame question: how do you get all these addresses to forward?


if you can create email addresses at your provider, you should be able to set up email aliases as well.
08/13/2005 12:22:28 AM · #14
Originally posted by pidge:



lame question: how do you get all these addresses to forward?


There's just a section in my email admin where I can set addresses to forward. I suppose it depends on who your webhost is but if you have cpanel, it's pretty easy.
08/13/2005 01:21:45 AM · #15
Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by pidge:



lame question: how do you get all these addresses to forward?


There's just a section in my email admin where I can set addresses to forward. I suppose it depends on who your webhost is but if you have cpanel, it's pretty easy.

Originally posted by muckpond:

Originally posted by pidge:



lame question: how do you get all these addresses to forward?


if you can create email addresses at your provider, you should be able to set up email aliases as well.


Thanks
08/13/2005 01:59:27 AM · #16
bounce the spam make them think your address is dead
08/13/2005 03:37:28 AM · #17
I have a free program called PopFile that works really well. It takes a few emails to "train" it, but after that it's very accurate. It can mark all suspect mails as [SPAM] and then in Outlook Express, you just set any message marked like this to go to a seperate folder. Scan through the list for real emails (there will seldom be any) and delete the rest. It can also put the suspect email as an attatchment, so that OE won't try and open any potential damaging email.

Very effective - but changing your email address is still the best answer.
08/13/2005 04:06:45 AM · #18
Would it be wrong to actually go through and check out the addresses of their companies and then advertise them on the Al Jazeera Network in Iraq and Afghanistan as George Bush and his family member's home addresses?

And specifically request to have the TV spot sandwiched between how-to documentaries on making letter bombs and powdered anthrax?

I know that's a little harsh, but don't tell me you never thought about it... :)

I personally find the best way to avoid spam is to keep one email address that is HOPELESS (read HOTMAIL) and a private email address that I keep clean on Yahoo. I have received 4 spam messages on Yahoo in 2 years.

Don't forget, Hotmail gets paid for advertising space by the same guys that make spam. Hotmail probably doesn't get any money from providing you with an email address (don't know why anyone would pay money for such crappy service anyhow).

One thing I like to do is take a crap email address and find out a bunch of the spammer's real email addresses and use them to spoof up a bunch of spamm generating sites. See how they like 800 messages a day :)
08/13/2005 08:02:01 AM · #19
I use a disposable address for nearly everything & just change it when it starts getting too much spam.

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08/13/2005 09:10:15 AM · #20
The minute I set up my Yahoo mail account I started to get spam at that address. It only took a few seconds in fact.

I don't get it.
08/13/2005 10:45:42 AM · #21
Originally posted by eschelar:

Would it be wrong to actually go through and check out the addresses of their companies and then advertise them on the Al Jazeera Network in Iraq and Afghanistan as George Bush and his family member's home addresses?

And specifically request to have the TV spot sandwiched between how-to documentaries on making letter bombs and powdered anthrax?

I know that's a little harsh, but don't tell me you never thought about it... :)

I personally find the best way to avoid spam is to keep one email address that is HOPELESS (read HOTMAIL) and a private email address that I keep clean on Yahoo. I have received 4 spam messages on Yahoo in 2 years.

Don't forget, Hotmail gets paid for advertising space by the same guys that make spam. Hotmail probably doesn't get any money from providing you with an email address (don't know why anyone would pay money for such crappy service anyhow).

One thing I like to do is take a crap email address and find out a bunch of the spammer's real email addresses and use them to spoof up a bunch of spamm generating sites. See how they like 800 messages a day :)


well if you have the time and resources go for it. it will be hard to find a spammers real email address. I just saw a stroy on 48 hours or something about them trying to find a porn spammer. it took them a while but eventualy they actually found the person and talked to him face to face. He said he was going to get out of the porn spam business. But that was just probablly for the strory. there is too much money to be made sending spam email

James
08/13/2005 03:37:47 PM · #22
I have sbcyahoo-- it is a great email program for me... the junk goes into a bulk folder and i can dump it all at once. anything that does come into my inbox -- i mark as spam and it deletes it and i never get another email from that source again. really simple. I like it way better than outlook express.
08/13/2005 06:38:58 PM · #23
Originally posted by kbhatia1967:

I am getting about 100 SPAMs in my e-mail. As soon as I delete them, a dozen SPAMs appear again within 10 minutes. Can I get rid of them?


A couple suggestions:

1. Never post your email address anywhere on the Internet where it will be publically viewable. This includes such things as public forums, directories, user profiles and the like. Just like Google uses special programs (called spiders) to traverse the Internet and index web pages, many spammers use similar programs to harvest email addresses.

For example, I've noticed here on DPC, that you have your email address listed in your profile (pawdrix, this may be part of your problem as well). To change this, under your preferences, in the "Email Preferences" section, uncheck "Display email address." Users will still be able to PM you using the site's PM interface, but they will not be able to see your actual email address.

2. To stop the spam you're already receiving, you may want to consider a service like MailSift. Mailsift is a Bayesian spam filtering service. What's nice about Bayesian filtering is that the filters are completely trainable, and learn what you consider to be spam vs. valid. If you train it regularly, the service will over time learn to make highly accurate filtering decisions (in my case, over 99% accurate with almost no false positives) based on your own email. I chose MailSift specifically because it does the filtering server-side, so the spam is stopped before you ever download it. You can check and retrain its filtering decisions through a web interface. If you decide to check it out, the service is free for a month, and then $23.95/month after that. Also, since the nature of Bayesian filtering is language-independent, the service will (once properly trained) work as well on email in your native language as it will on English email.

Good luck!

-Terry
08/13/2005 07:50:14 PM · #24
//www.sneakemail.com allows you to create disposable email addresses that are forwarded to an email address you specify. I think heir basic service is still free.

//www.dodgeit.com and //www.mailinator.com don't require an exsisting email address, so you can invent a usnername and they will accept the mail. But since it is not password protected, anyone can read it.

Someone suggested that you "bounce" your spam. Please don't. Bouncing is only useful if it occurs during the initial SMTP transaction. i.e. your mailserver tells the spammers mailserver that it won't accept the message. A fake bounce just sends a copy of the spam to somebody else whose email address happens to be forged in that particular spam. It is very unlikely that the actual spammer will ever recieve the fake bounce and even less likely that he would care. It might however get you in trouble with your ISP if the recipient of the fake bounce were to lart them.
08/15/2005 02:44:35 AM · #25
Yes. I want a gmail account, if that is free from SPAM. Can anyone send me an invite?
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