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08/05/2005 01:43:01 PM · #1
Photoshop is the best thing in the world for my pictures, but by God if I don't understand how to work it. I just finished my first official shoot and I sort of blew the monkey. I am over-exposed and blown on most of the shots. We were having a level 3 (red) ozone day and the sun was going down, thus all the shots look like they are on a gray sky and the water reflexed the sky color. I have tried everything I know how to in PS to fix the image's. Then I thought wait I suck at this why not learn how to do it right and that where I need your help. I will be in debt to anyone who will take this photo and post process it and post their steps. Thanks in advance to all those who are willing to help!

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Message edited by Konador - Fixing Thumbs :) .
08/05/2005 01:46:17 PM · #2
Thank you kindly!

Message edited by author 2005-08-05 13:46:38.
08/05/2005 01:48:01 PM · #3
I am sorry to be really off base here, but I looked through your port and saw the golf shots and I had a question. Where is that golf course, it looks very nice. Again sorry for getting off base.
08/05/2005 01:48:33 PM · #4
are you only allowed to use certain techniques or are you allowed to modify them as much as you want as long as it looks good?
08/05/2005 01:51:39 PM · #5
Another question for you. If you would like to email me the originals, I could play with them a bit and see what I come up with. If it is anything you like, I can walk you through what I did with the images.

The first one to me looks ok, it just looks overcast. But the colors are good and the car ends up seperating itself from the background nicely. The only thing that i don't like is the sign sticking out dead center of the roof. It is kind of distracting. The botom one looks very underexposed. It might be to dark to get any good detail out of it.
08/05/2005 01:52:35 PM · #6
maybe play around with levels or channel mixer. i'll play around with one of them
08/05/2005 01:52:50 PM · #7
Bruski - its a golf course in Flower Mound, Tx //www.lantanatexas.com/lgc/home.html

xuan768 - do what ever you think looks best... I just want to learn different post processing technique's!

Thanks,
08/05/2005 01:58:49 PM · #8
Originally posted by bruski:

Another question for you. If you would like to email me the originals, I could play with them a bit and see what I come up with. If it is anything you like, I can walk you through what I did with the images.

The first one to me looks ok, it just looks overcast. But the colors are good and the car ends up seperating itself from the background nicely. The only thing that i don't like is the sign sticking out dead center of the roof. It is kind of distracting. The botom one looks very underexposed. It might be to dark to get any good detail out of it.


Great idea I have posted the originals

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08/05/2005 01:59:01 PM · #9
okay, try this: autolevels, adjustments>hue/saturation then boost the blue, magenta, and cyan channels
08/05/2005 02:00:28 PM · #10
i agree the first one isn't that bad...remove the sign, give it a new sky. What version of PS are you using?
08/05/2005 02:01:35 PM · #11
Originally posted by th3ph17:

i agree the first one isn't that bad...remove the sign, give it a new sky. What version of PS are you using?


Photoshop Pro 6.0
08/05/2005 02:02:03 PM · #12
Originally posted by art-inept:

okay, try this: autolevels, adjustments>hue/saturation then boost the blue, magenta, and cyan channels


Thanks Art! At work right now, but will give it a shot this evening.
08/05/2005 02:02:58 PM · #13
This along the lines of what you want?

214133.jpg 214169.jpg
---------- Original --------------------Edit ------------

Open each in, then switch between them in taskbar to see changes.
08/05/2005 02:04:03 PM · #14
Originally posted by res0m50r:

Originally posted by art-inept:

okay, try this: autolevels, adjustments>hue/saturation then boost the blue, magenta, and cyan channels


Thanks Art! At work right now, but will give it a shot this evening.


oh that's for the sky one. i didn't try the water one. but i'm not sure if the end result is what you want. hmmm, you can try it though
08/05/2005 02:07:35 PM · #15
a1itth.jpg

clumsy job with the selection... but I think you probably get the idea.

Selected just the sky and applied a deep blue photofilter with 75% density. Then I selected just the car and applied curves to make it pop out a bit more. Probably overdid both.
08/05/2005 02:07:45 PM · #16
Originally posted by BradP:

This along the lines of what you want?

214133.jpg 214169.jpg
---------- Original --------------------Edit ------------

Open each in, then switch between them in taskbar to see changes.


BradP - thanks so much! I love the water, grass, tree line and sky. I think with the lighting of the orignal its about the best you can get without painting it lol... Is there anyway to seperate the photo so you can edit the environment with out affecting the car. The contrast is to much and the paint changed colors... if there is a way to keep your environment edits and keep the car the same I think it would be perfect... just not sure if PS does that.

Thanks
08/05/2005 02:09:55 PM · #17
Originally posted by xuan768:

a1itth.jpg

clumsy job with the selection... but I think you probably get the idea.

Selected just the sky and applied a deep blue photofilter with 75% density. Then I selected just the car and applied curves to make it pop out a bit more. Probably overdid both.


Sweet! I didn't know there was a filter out there for deep blue. Exactly what I was looking for in regards to the sky. It pulls out the blue in the photo. I will check it out this evening.

Thanks so much!
08/05/2005 02:12:22 PM · #18
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Message edited by author 2005-08-05 14:30:38.
08/05/2005 02:12:45 PM · #19
No problem. If you want the .psd just send an e-mail =D
08/05/2005 02:24:17 PM · #20
Originally posted by res0m50r:

Originally posted by BradP:

This along the lines of what you want?

214133.jpg 214169.jpg
---------- Original --------------------Edit ------------

Open each in, then switch between them in taskbar to see changes.


BradP - thanks so much! I love the water, grass, tree line and sky. I think with the lighting of the orignal its about the best you can get without painting it lol... Is there anyway to seperate the photo so you can edit the environment with out affecting the car. The contrast is to much and the paint changed colors... if there is a way to keep your environment edits and keep the car the same I think it would be perfect... just not sure if PS does that.

Thanks

Try this:
Open the original, make a new layer via copy.
Check & adjust levels, I selected options, enhance monochromatic contrast & snap neutral midtones.
Now I have CS2, and went to Shadows/Highlights and took shadows back to 0% and brought up Highlights level 20% (not sure how to do that in 6.0)
From there, I used the magic wand and selected at a tolerance level of 10, the sky on top. I kept clicking until I was happy with the amount selected, then in color balnce, slid top slider left towards Cyan about 50% of the way, then slid the bottom slider towards Blue, about 50% of the way and hit OK.
While still selected, I selected contrast/brightness adjustment and dropped the brightness about -50 and took the contrast up about +20.
At this point, in CS2, I ran noise reduction on the sky while still selected - may apply a light Gaussian blur while selected.
Afte unselecting, I didn't like the halos around tree line and zoomed in to 1600%, used the clone tool to select an area just slightly above white/light areas, and painted darker pixels over harsh sections, with the clone tool set to around 60%.
(LOL - takes longer to type that than to edit image)
Final Brightness down about 25% and contrast up about 5%
That will get image about where my edit is.
Now, to bring color of car back to original, select the History brush tool, and slowly "paint" original car back in. (it's how I do it anyway - I'm sure vehicle could be isolated, but have no clue how to do it well enough without screwing up the edges)
Edit to add: Flatten image when done - kinda important.

Hope this helps.

Message edited by author 2005-08-05 14:29:06.
08/05/2005 02:29:46 PM · #21
Actually if you have the full size files handy, if not you could send tonight if you want, email them directly to me at nickb@bbhc.org. I have this thing for starting on images that haven't been sized down. This of course, is only if you want to.
08/05/2005 03:04:09 PM · #22
if you can get away with a more stylized image, i think that second shot looks pretty cool if you blast up the colors/contrast a bit...use Curves and just grab the middle part and pull it up...concentrating on how the car looks.

images like this are pretty typical in my line of work--i correct real estate photography--its all about getting the foreground to look how you want [color, sharpness] and then fix the sky. Skys almost always look like crap unless the pic is perfectly exposed.

Message edited by author 2005-08-05 15:06:25.
08/05/2005 03:58:20 PM · #23
Ok I got carried away. I went a different color route too. Not sure if anyone will like it.

thumb]214212[/thumb]

Another quick question. Do you shoot at the highest rez jpg possible for your camera? Because the ones you sent me still seem small for a 5mp camera. Just curious.

Message edited by author 2005-08-05 16:27:45.
08/05/2005 04:11:03 PM · #24
I did some work on the originally posted image. There is so much post-processing on it that there are serious artifacts when I do anymore, so I didn't bother fine-tuning the selection areas etc. What I've done here is basically created a "painterly" sky to offset the realistic car, and burned foreground to a more muted level. There's a lot of potential in the image, but not working from that small original...

214205.jpg

Robt.
08/05/2005 04:28:52 PM · #25
Boy did I screw that up.

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