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05/20/2003 11:33:31 AM · #1 |
(first of all - where's the "SEARCH" function in these forums?)
... between a Sony Cybershot DSC-F717, an Olympus C-5050 Zoom, and a Minolta DiMAGE 7Hi or 7i. I'd like to keep it more than 5 pixels and in the $600-$1000 range. Important things to me are: shutter control, apature control, (I love doing night shots like //cc-ent.net/gallery/SAChristmas), flash control, flash boot, tripod mount, and easily available batteries and "film" would be a plus. I originally leaned towards the Sony, but the local photoshop in town discourages Sony because of their service record. Now I'm looking at the Minolta DiMAGE with more interest in the 7Hi because of the features (I'm not going to outgrow it the way I did the other two) Eventually, I want to get a production body and do some free-lance stuff, but not until my skills improve more.
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05/20/2003 11:38:48 AM · #2 |
(there isn't one, but I made this: //www.makesmewonder.com/dpc.html)
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05/20/2003 11:44:34 AM · #3 |
I have a F717 and have been nothing but happy with it. Personally, I think that Sony make very good products. I cannot discourage you from any of the other models you mentioned, but I can certainly recommend the Sony F717. Have a look at this site and then compare the models you mentioned. Hope this might help.
Digital Photography Review
Let me know if you have any other questions about the F717. I cannot guarentee I'll be able to answer them all, but I will try. :P |
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05/20/2003 11:58:08 AM · #4 |
The Sony F7171 is a very good camera. Two friends of mine have it and I'm really impressed by the quality of their pictures, even in auto mode...
A third guy I know has another Sony camera, and none of them ever had any problem.
Go for the Sony! |
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05/20/2003 12:02:34 PM · #5 |
I forgot to ask - is anyone doing macros with these models? If I'm not shooting trees, waves, or Christmas lights, I'm on my knees shooting flowers, bugs, and small things to sell on eBay. Then the other thing I find myself shooting a lot are action shots of animals (dog agility, horses, puppies, dog sledding) I'm looking forward to the multi-shot or film mode. I get my best animal shots by taking them out of a series of high-speed shots. I also enjoy making "moving" pictures for web sites.
Do any of these things work better with one camera over another? |
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05/20/2003 12:16:15 PM · #6 |
Based upon the action shot request and burst mode, I can highly recommend the Fuji S602Z for this. It has 30fps movie mode as well as 5 shot burst mode (first 5 or last 5 in the series). It is 3 mp interpolated to 6 with their super ccd. It has shutter speeds up to 1/10000 of a second and high ISO's.
You can read the full specs here:
DPReview's the S602Z
The 'pro' version also has a remote shutter release and pc sync connector. I have been very happy with my fuji, and feel it gets over looked when people start looking for new cameras.
And it does awesome macro's! 
Message edited by author 2003-05-20 12:18:15.
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05/20/2003 12:23:38 PM · #7 |
| I'm impressed! Very nice. I'll look at that one also. Every time I get closer to deciding, I keep changing my mind! |
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05/20/2003 12:53:51 PM · #8 |
I have an Olympus C5050z. I've done very well with it. I got a 2nd place for symmetry and have had overall success with it. Some of the features that I like about it are : adjustable flash intensity, REMOTE CONTROL (which is so handy when you are doing your own lighting), burst mode, in-camera contrast, saturation, and sharpness controls, it takes regular rechargeable AA batteries, xd or sm and CF media (xd and sm cards go in the same place but CF has its own slot). It takes extremely sharp photos with superior color portrayal. It cost me 609 bucks including shipping. I spent $150 on a 512M CF from BHphoto and I'm pretty well set. It also does have a hotshoe, which was a big deal to me. shutter speed goes from 16sec to 1/1000 sec and aperture goes from 1.8 to 8.0. The biggest knock on the camera is the shutter lag. It does great macros too. I highly recommend it.
I bought my wife the Fuji S602z and I'd recommend that camera too. My biggest knock about that camera is that its only 3MPx. Otherwise, its a damn fine camera. Best of luck in finding a camera. - Bob
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05/20/2003 12:57:03 PM · #9 |
| Look at Carten's photos - He's got a C5050 and does GREAT work with it. |
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05/20/2003 01:36:51 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by emorgan49:
Look at Carten's photos - He's got a C5050 and does GREAT work with it. |
Don't look past Kiwiness either. He has used the E-20 on a couple pics, but most of them are with the 5050. I'm lucky to be on the page at all with those 2 guys, not to mention NDS. He's got a couple on there too. |
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05/20/2003 02:06:56 PM · #11 |
Don't worry about what other people think make the decision based on the things that are important to you. I would have purchased a Fuji 602 based on my love for the fuji software and previous fuji experience as well as the price and the capabilities. The 602 is an excellent camera with one small flaw. It has a wide hand grip. That doesn't matter to many people but to me it did cause I have carpel tunnel in my right hand and I need something with a smaller grip so if my hand starts to go numb I can dig into it and still be able to hold it with my ring finger and pinkie.
The day I purchased my DiMAGE7i I went to an independent camera shop and checked out the Fuji 602, Olympus E10, and the Dimage 7hi and the 7i. My final selection was the 7i cause of the comfort of the grip and the overall weight of the camera, it was almost a toss up between the 7hi and the 7i with the owner letting me try both cameras in the store, and I found the 7i a little bit more comfortable to hold.
So yeah all the neat little features add up to one great camera but it doesn't do a bit of good if you can't use it so don't forget to look for comfort as well, especially if you are planning to use it for hours at a time. |
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05/20/2003 03:09:49 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by LizMarr:
I forgot to ask - is anyone doing macros with these models? If I'm not shooting trees, waves, or Christmas lights, I'm on my knees shooting flowers, bugs, and small things to sell on eBay. Then the other thing I find myself shooting a lot are action shots of animals (dog agility, horses, puppies, dog sledding) I'm looking forward to the multi-shot or film mode. I get my best animal shots by taking them out of a series of high-speed shots. I also enjoy making "moving" pictures for web sites.
Do any of these things work better with one camera over another? |
I have and LOVE the F717.
//www.pbase.com/shareinnc
These are some of my shots. I've had the camera since the 5th of May and I'm still learning how it works, but I adore the macro abilities. I haven't tried the burst mode yet, but plan to try some water drop shots and will use it then. I also really like the infrared capabilities of the camera.
I read the review at dpreview before I got the camera and agree with everything they said there.
Shari
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05/27/2003 02:24:36 AM · #13 |
I went to Fry's this weekend and got to look at and feel all the cameras except the FujiFilm (they don't have any FujiFilm cameras at all) I've had my hands on the Sony a couple of times but when I was playing with the Minolta I fell in love! The Dimage7i wasn't all that exciting compared to the Sony 717, but the 7Hi!! Now, that one just felt right. It has many of the settings that I'm looking for where I can find them and figure them out, and also has a million settings that will take me a while just to know how to use them. The only thing that I haven't liked so far is that the photos on the review site look grainy to me - do you think it is the camera or the way they used it? Second choice has firmly become the Sony. The Olympus just doesn't have the options as I really think I want them - especially the zoom.
While I was there I picked up another HP C715 (display model - $169) and my housemate picked up a dimage S404 for $399 (in box with everything) I haven't had time to play with it yet, but it looks to be better than my HP. At least I still have a camera that I'm used to. |
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05/27/2003 04:44:13 AM · #14 |
I've been lookin at photos from the F717 and the Nikon CP5700, among others, for the last three months. The Minolta seems overpriced and the images are kinda washed out. The biggest problem with the Sony, in my opinion, is that the colors suck... look through all the F717 pictures on this site, and most of them have pukey neon colors. Even worse, in an attempt to fix the colors from the 707, it seems like theyve muted the blues and prettier colors. The Nikon CP5700 on the other hand seems to have the most perfect colors and its images look most like real film, to me at least.
Really bad barrel distortion and a 38mm widest range on the lens are bad too. Biggest flaws on the Nikon seem to be low-light autofocus and lack of threads on the lens (but can be added with adaptor).
Message edited by author 2003-05-27 04:46:23. |
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05/28/2003 04:31:55 PM · #15 |
I have no idea which pictures you're looking at, but I haven't seen any F717 pictures I would consider 'pukey neon', or in fact neon at all. Are you sure this isn't your monitor at fault?
If it weren't out of my price range, the F717 has shown up enough on pictures I like that I would consider it, in fact, although I probably will ultimately purchase from a company with non-proprietary memory cards when I do get a better camera. (In fact, what I'm considering right now are the Canon PowerShots.) |
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05/28/2003 05:45:20 PM · #16 |
| I have a 5050Z and like it a lot when I was looking at cameras I was looking at it and the sony f717 only memory sticks are currently stuck at 128 MB and sony's the only one who uses them and the adaptors for them are pricy too. whereas the 5050z can use XD, smartmedia,compactflash and microdrive and you can use 2 at a time worst thing about it is the autofocus time (though that lag can be mostly eliminated by using manual focus). and the olympus is a little less expensive but has less zoom but the best macro ability I've seen (you can put the lens on a peice of paper and capture text if you really wanted to) so if you need a better zoom I'd go with the sony if you want macro go with the olympus |
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05/28/2003 06:01:21 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by macox:
...the sony f717 only memory sticks are currently stuck at 128 MB and sony's the only one who uses them and the adaptors for them are pricy too... |
Not so, the F717 is both mem'stick AND mem'stickPro compatible. In other words, us can use anything from 16 MB to 1GB, including 2X's.
Also, filters, hoods etc do NOT require adaptors. They screw right into the lens.
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05/28/2003 06:21:44 PM · #18 |
| I have been enjoying the Sony. I have taken thousands of pics in the last several months. I used a Minolta Dimage 5 before, and this camera is much better. I think if I would have waited I would have gone with the Canon 10D though. I would love a larger zoom. My only beef with the Sony is the macro function. You either need to be 3 feet away-for telephoto, or very, very close(under a foot)for wide.Here are some of my photos |
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