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07/31/2005 12:43:00 PM · #1
Hi there...I'm trying to improve my photos but the only program I have to do any editing is Paint Shop Pro. I'd love to have Photoshop but its so expensive. Any suggestions??

Thanks

Gayle

07/31/2005 12:48:23 PM · #2
Lots of people recomend GIMP you can find out more //www.gimp.org/
I belive its free and ment to be very good
07/31/2005 12:48:26 PM · #3
Adobe Elements is a cut down version of PS, I use PSP quite a lot and must admit to being happy with it.

I can get to use PS in work but most of the editing is through PSP.#

Geo
07/31/2005 12:56:23 PM · #4
Photoshop 7.0 (I still use this version) is available from reutable dealers for around 225 dollars, and opens the upgrade path to CS and CS2 at a later date. You can frequently find it for sale in the 70-dollar range but these are almost certainly prated versions and I wouldn't recommend buying those.

Robt.
07/31/2005 01:03:31 PM · #5
I have both Paint Shop Pro 7 and Photoshop Elements 2.0. I paid for the PSP, and Elements came with my Digital Rebel.

I still use PSP for resizing and making graphics, adding borders/solid frames, and such, but I use Elements for all my photo editing as far as contrast, color correction, etc.

Elements is great for me, especially with some of the free plugins you can find (like Melancholytron, one of my favorites). I do find myself wishing that I had the full version of Photoshop, however, mostly because I want to try this "curves" tool I've heard so much about! But for the most part, Elements seems to meet my needs.
07/31/2005 01:03:50 PM · #6
I have both PS and PSP and I actually prefer PSP, and use it 90 % of the time.

I may be in the minority, but I love PSP.

07/31/2005 01:57:32 PM · #7
GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program) Is probably the best free image editing i've seen. In my opinion, it's even better than Paint Shop Pro.

Definately worth trying. It's got pretty much everything necessary for photo processing.
07/31/2005 02:31:14 PM · #8
Paint Shop Pro (PSP) is definitely a capable program for post-processing. Try flipping through some of the PSP books at the bookstore and you will find out some of the wonderful things you can do with the program.

Message edited by author 2005-07-31 14:32:59.
07/31/2005 04:22:04 PM · #9
yea, definitely go with paint shop pro9. it accepts all the plugins offered to photoshop and it also has nearly all the same tools available. on top of that it has a painting palette thing, can't really explain it. where you can mix and scrub colors together and create almost perfect renditions of a real painting.

oh and its only 99$

Message edited by author 2005-07-31 16:22:17.
07/31/2005 04:22:55 PM · #10
buy it
08/24/2005 07:10:27 PM · #11
PSP should be good enough for a lot of things. You've already had GIMP suggested, but really what you need to do is master whatever program you choose.
08/24/2005 07:25:57 PM · #12
Here's a couple more links to look at..

Both Free Downloads..

Paint.NET

Photo Plus 6
08/24/2005 10:15:37 PM · #13
Originally posted by gayle43103:

Hi there...I'm trying to improve my photos but the only program I have to do any editing is Paint Shop Pro. I'd love to have Photoshop but its so expensive. Any suggestions??

Thanks

Gayle

Why would you love to have Photoshop? Having PS instead of PSP will not improve your photos.

If you need it your employer will buy it for you. If not, you already have a program that is more appropriate for your needs. With so many good editing programs available for free, or for much, much less than the "industry standard", PS is becoming more and more unnecessary as time goes by.

PhotoFiltre is another free, full-featured editor.
08/25/2005 08:19:43 AM · #14
What do you think PSP can't do that Photoshop can?

I have PSP9, and CS2. I got CS2 because I *thought* I just had to have The Best. At 6 times the cost it's got to be 6 times better right? Wrong.

First, PSPX is coming out and you can get it now, full boxed version, not an upgrade, for $60. Heck of a deal. 16 bit? Got it. CMYK? Has that too.
//www.corel.com/promotions/psp_launch/pspx_1/index.html

Second, this link has hundreds and hundreds of tutorials on how to do just about anything you want with PSP:
//www.psplinks.com/?

PS is nice. I know, I got it. Never said it wasn't.
But you don't really don't have to have it, and you aren't missing much at all, if anything.
08/25/2005 08:27:07 AM · #15
True. PSP is as underrated as PS is overrated. I've been trying to kick the PS habit, but adjustment layers have spoiled me... :) I will take a look at PSPX, although I would prefer Gimp, but it is not quite there yet...
08/25/2005 08:29:31 AM · #16
Does PSP support Photoshop plugins?
08/25/2005 12:44:33 PM · #17
Yes, PSP supports Photoshop plugins (but not actions, which are basically recorded macros).

I have used PSP since something like version 5 or maybe older. Currently, own PSP8. Thought about upgrading to 9, but just didn't feel the overwhelming need at the time. I'll have to look at PSPX...

There are a few tools that PS-CS2 has that PSP (at least version 8) doesn't, but I have been able to work around those without much trouble. PSP is a very capable editing application.
09/25/2005 03:28:53 AM · #18
I downloaded the Gimp program, not only did it not help me with
downsizing my photos to keep the clarity, it changed every file in my computer to a Gimp file name, even after unistalling the program
the Gimp file name is still on all my files.
09/25/2005 04:55:36 AM · #19
The gimp can do just about anything that photoshop[ can do, except for advancede colour space management, which you don't need.

OTOH I prefer ujsing paint shop pro.Any version after 7 will have all the feature you need.
09/25/2005 04:57:38 AM · #20
Books on Gimp Techniques.
09/25/2005 09:59:19 AM · #21
Originally posted by faidoi:

Books on Gimp Techniques.

Thanks for this link!
09/25/2005 10:08:06 AM · #22
I use Microsoft Digital Imaging Pro 10. It was only $99 and everything I want to do, it can do. I can also download PS plugins to use with it. I love it and have no desire to buy adobe at all. Maybe I am missing out on something, I am not sure. But I am very happy with the Pro 10.
09/25/2005 10:21:25 AM · #23
Originally posted by mandyturner:

I use Microsoft Digital Imaging Pro 10. It was only $99 and everything I want to do, it can do. I can also download PS plugins to use with it. I love it and have no desire to buy adobe at all. Maybe I am missing out on something, I am not sure. But I am very happy with the Pro 10.


As do I use DIP10...and no you are not missing much.

Besides PS Plug-ins you mentioned, it's got a ton of filters of its own, the easiest horizontal/vert straightener, panoramica stiching, thirds rule croping (indicator), levels and curves, color and saturation, exposure and lighting, magic erase and on and on....If you got the suite version Digital Image Library is included which is a wicked cool archival system.

The new MS Digital Image Suite 2006 is the Same as Digital Image Suite 10 but now does Canon/Nikon RAW... $79 bucks...$49 after rebate.
09/25/2005 10:40:56 AM · #24
Photoshop Elements 3 has done every thing I need to do and is only about $80. Of course I moved to it after 8 years of Photoshop 3.0 so it was like coming to the Land of Oz. Tried GIMP first but found the interface just too akward although it is feature packed and free.
09/25/2005 10:55:59 AM · #25
there is a free 30 day trial of Photoshop CS2 on Adobe.com, download the trial, keep the downloaded file safe, then install, use for 30 days, then uninstall, and install again, then you got 30 days more, and keep doing that until you can afford to buy photoshop :)
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