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07/27/2005 11:16:12 AM · #51 |
Finally am catching up with life...Started mine, now I gotta work on it...
my blog |
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07/27/2005 11:36:08 AM · #52 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Maybe you should create and administer one "group blog" for us as well, either for "final submissions" or as a summary of what we learn for others to use. |
Good idea. I created a team blog we can use to group publish our final comments and best shots after each exercise. I need to add each of you individually, which means you have to divulge your email address to me in a PM, if it's not in your profile.
Be patient as I invite you in my spare moments.
We won't post there though until we are done with each exercise. And I think exercise 1 is going to run more than 1 week. There are a lot of rules to break. ;) |
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07/27/2005 12:22:12 PM · #53 |
And breaking them isn't as easy as it sounds!
Originally posted by nshapiro:
...There are a lot of rules to break. ;) |
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07/27/2005 01:53:27 PM · #54 |
Tried several violations of the photo canons (no pun intended) over the lunch hour:
Took main subject out of focus;
Tilted the camera every which-way;
Eliminated the rule of thirds;
Used shutter speeds much lower than 1/focal-length;
Overexposed & underexposed;
Shook, rotated, swept and otherwise moved the camera during shot;
And of course, took photos at the height of the noonday sun!
Then, the non-photo rules that came into play:
When your sunglasses fall our of your pocket during photography exercise, keep your feet still until you find them (obeyed) (OK, that’s more of a guideline than a rule);
Don’t get too close to the bees (disobeyed, without consequence btw);
Don’t take pictures of police without their approval (obeyed!);
Don’t extend your lunch hour (disobeyed);
Don’t forget your dew-rag/bandana when it’s 95 degrees and 99% humidity (obeyed);
Don’t curse out loud at work, just because you have Windows 2000 and it won’t recognize your memory card (disobeyed).
In some of the resulting photos, I tried to break only one rule, some I tried more. To tell the truth, on a couple I didn’t break any except the noon-day thing. But just breaking the noon-day rule, I re-discovered that there are subjects out there that can survive that violation – for example, bees getting work done, or an image of a shady path. That’s headway for me, because mostly I’ve been shunning mid-day photography, and now I realize that maybe I ought to get out there during lunch instead of net-surfing between DPC and my fantasy baseball teams. Na-a-a-ah.
I’ll post something to the blog tonight, after I get to a friendly computer. |
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07/27/2005 02:08:06 PM · #55 |
Slow start from me, but my books should be here today and I'm sure that will get me going.
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07/27/2005 02:16:18 PM · #56 |
Slow start for me too .....
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07/27/2005 02:18:50 PM · #57 |
He-he...thanks for the chuckle Wyatt! Did a bit of that myself this afternoon...
Keep smiling! ;^)
Message edited by author 2005-07-27 14:20:57.
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07/27/2005 03:05:26 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
And breaking them isn't as easy as it sounds!
Originally posted by nshapiro:
...There are a lot of rules to break. ;) |
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Breaking them is actually easy. Breaking them whilst producing an interesting image is the hard part.
Message edited by author 2005-07-27 15:05:54.
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07/27/2005 03:20:37 PM · #59 |
Breaking them is actually easy. Breaking them whilst producing an interesting image is the hard part.
But also quite liberating! And fun. Excercise time is short for me, so I'll have to concentrate it into the weekend. |
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07/27/2005 03:35:26 PM · #60 |
What I meant is trying to force myself to NOT follow the rule has been challenging. For example, when I was trying to break the rule of thirds I wanted to position the subject in various spots (top, bottom, side, etc...) that were out of the thirds intersection points. As I took the photos I thought I had framed the subject correctly (actually incorrectly)...when I looked at them on my computer the core of the subject was STILL pretty close to the thirds line on several of them.
Subconsciously I was still following the rules!
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
And breaking them isn't as easy as it sounds!
Originally posted by nshapiro:
...There are a lot of rules to break. ;) |
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Breaking them is actually easy. Breaking them whilst producing an interesting image is the hard part. |
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07/27/2005 04:20:36 PM · #61 |
Blog updated with my attempt to break rule 2 - main subject in focus.
I found breaking this rule to be really quit difficult, but 100 images later I think I cracked it.
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07/27/2005 04:44:05 PM · #62 |
I've found that one challenging also. Need to find a subject with good DOF to have a background and foreground to use. May have to find a spot in the garden and use a wide aperture to find something with the range to make the results obvious.
Originally posted by Falc:
Blog updated with my attempt to break rule 2 - main subject in focus.
I found breaking this rule to be really quit difficult, but 100 images later I think I cracked it. |
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07/27/2005 04:52:52 PM · #63 |
Rule #2 I believe is one of the more difficult rules to come up with an interesting image whilst breaking it. Keith, I believe you've come closer than I did though I feel that your image needs a bit more DOF to give more definition to the path and hence more strength within the image. Perfect subject though.
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07/27/2005 05:47:03 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Rule #2 I believe is one of the more difficult rules to come up with an interesting image whilst breaking it. |
Here's an awesome example of breaking rule #2: Rufus Lovett's "Clothespins" The print looks even cooler in person. |
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07/27/2005 05:53:33 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by waterlilies:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Rule #2 I believe is one of the more difficult rules to come up with an interesting image whilst breaking it. |
Here's an awesome example of breaking rule #2: Rufus Lovett's "Clothespins" The print looks even cooler in person. |
Thanks for posting that Rachel. I've been looking for ideas to experiment more with this rule. I also want to try breaking rule #3 again with a better subject.
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07/27/2005 06:03:57 PM · #66 |
Suggestion for breaking rule #3.
I found that the real object actually disappears due to overexposure, however something does take shape. When doing this exercise try and see what is taking shape.
I've added another post to my blog and ask the question 'What do you see?'. If you've already commented go back and take another look. If you haven't looked yet please do so. I given a hint by saying what I see. This is not necessarily what you will see if you see anything at all.
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07/27/2005 10:46:33 PM · #67 |
Which version of FP's book are you all using?
//half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=773301&pr=538741
or
//half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=1227350634&pr=30774957
Just want to try to follow along, even if I can't particapate.
Thank you,
Spenlee
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07/27/2005 10:47:00 PM · #68 |
| I'm now registered with the group thread as well. |
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07/27/2005 10:49:57 PM · #69 |
| Spenlee: I just bought the latter book, the 3rd Edition from 2004. In the listings you linked to, they are about the same price anyway, and the newer one should be in print. |
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07/28/2005 12:00:07 AM · #70 |
Broke rule #2: Main subject is in focus.
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Message edited by author 2005-07-28 00:57:50.
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07/28/2005 02:05:05 AM · #71 |
Originally posted by Spenlee:
Which version of FP's book are you all using?
//half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=773301&pr=538741
or
//half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=1227350634&pr=30774957
Just want to try to follow along, even if I can't particapate.
Thank you,
Spenlee |
//half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=773301&pr=538741 is the version I have. I wasn't really aware of any other version ;-)
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07/28/2005 02:18:29 AM · #72 |
Steven Jusczy - Natural Imaging 2
Guys if you need some inspiration then have a wander around this guys Natural Imaging galleries. They are fantastic. I think he has already taught himself to 'see' in the FP style.
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07/28/2005 03:42:48 AM · #73 |
Originally posted by Falc:
Steven Jusczy - Natural Imaging 2
Guys if you need some inspiration then have a wander around this guys Natural Imaging galleries. They are fantastic. I think he has already taught himself to 'see' in the FP style. |
You know, we ought to post links to a selection from our existing portfolios which may already relate to one of these exercises. I've only read the first chapter, but a lot of it sounds pretty familiar--for example, I keep trying to think of ways of breaking some of the rules he listed which I haven't already tried at least once or twice.
Not that I'm not going to make new some images based on these suggestions, but it Might make an interesting before/after comparison. |
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07/28/2005 10:20:47 AM · #74 |
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07/28/2005 10:51:12 AM · #75 |
Originally posted by wkmen:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
You know, we ought to post links to a selection from our existing portfolios which may already relate to one of these exercises. |
GeneralE's post and Dahkota's blog made me look again at my DPC Portfolio, and here are some rules I've broken, on purpose, in the creative spirit:
Keep the subject in sharp focus
 (true subject being the foliage)
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To me the berries are the subject in this image. This seems to be the main problem when trying to break this rule. The OOF object doesn't carry enough weight in the image to be the main subject. With more definition it might command more attention (more DOF). Also, if fewer berries were part of the image, maybe in the bottom right corner it may also have worked better.
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