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07/06/2005 08:00:48 AM · #1
I know that this has been brought up before but, there are way tooo many entries in the challenges. There is no way that I have time to vote on 500 entries. I really feel bad when I don't vote on all of them. I wish that there were less (under 200) per contest, so I would be able to comment on all of them also.

Because of my steady slump in the quality of my entries, I am going to take a break from entering for a while, my entries haven't been doing well. I am going to wait until a topic really moves me from now on before I enter.

Is there any way that the entries could be approved of by the critique club or something before the challenge? Sometimes (not to be mean) a lot of the entries (like mine) just suck. I bet that a panel of judges could weed out about a 100 entries that either do not meet the challenge or are just low quality photos. Then the members who took these photos will try harder and be more creative so they will be entered in the challenge?

Let me make myself clear before members start ranting on me about the low quality photos.... what i mean by that is really bad pictures, not just some blur or a little grain...I'm talking about pictures that look like they took a picture of anything and entered it in. They paid no attention to composition, focus, contrast, etc.

Please don't all jump me at once...take turns being mad at me for this opinion.
07/06/2005 08:04:48 AM · #2
I noticed this morning on the circles......Am I glad I pulled my entry.
07/06/2005 08:07:47 AM · #3
Maybe make it so you can't enter two in a row?
07/06/2005 08:09:15 AM · #4
With the 20% rule you only have to vote on 110 for them to count. A lot of entries mean a lot of voters and commenters, so surely it all evens out?
07/06/2005 08:14:11 AM · #5
How about changing the 20% rule for a 10% rate and comment rule? So long as everyone gets the photos displayed randomly during voting and each photo gets plenty of votes (say 50+), the final scores should be representative of everyones opinions?
07/06/2005 08:14:27 AM · #6
Just tossing this out there...
I think one approach that would be fair and might reduce the number of entries in open challenges, at the same time that this might also improve quality:
Members can enter either the open or member challenge in any given week, but not both.
07/06/2005 08:16:01 AM · #7
Originally posted by PaulMdx:

With the 20% rule you only have to vote on 110 for them to count. A lot of entries mean a lot of voters and commenters, so surely it all evens out?


And that is all I vote on, 20%. I don't comment on all 20% either. I am not even going to go there with the comments...I never get that many, usually under 12. No one tells me why they give me a low score. The Critique Club has only "critiqued" one of my photos when I have requested almost all of my challenge entries to be critiqued. They don't comment either.
07/06/2005 08:18:34 AM · #8
Originally posted by fotolady:

And that is all I vote on, 20%. I don't comment on all 20% either.

I think that's completely fair. I wouldn't worry about it.

Originally posted by fotolady:

The Critique Club has only "critiqued" one of my photos when I have requested almost all of my challenge entries to be critiqued. They don't comment either.

To be fair, the critique club are always snowed with requests.

I'm sure you're aware that, by definition, for every comment given one is received.
07/06/2005 08:20:34 AM · #9
Just my 2 cents, but I take all week to vote, and I find I have plenty of time. I like the idea of requring a percentage of votes to come with comments, but I dont think it would be right or fair to limit how many people can enter a challange. You dont HAVE to vote on all the entries, so I dont understand what the big deal is. Just vote on the 20% required or dont vote at all.
07/06/2005 08:22:31 AM · #10
Originally posted by PaulMdx:


I'm sure you're aware that, by definition, for every comment given one is received.


I don't know what you mean?
07/06/2005 08:25:43 AM · #11
Originally posted by fotolady:

Originally posted by PaulMdx:

I'm sure you're aware that, by definition, for every comment given one is received.

I don't know what you mean?

I mean the system of commenting is ultimately fair because there aren't more people giving comments than receiving. In individual cases it may not be fair, which is hard to rectify.
07/06/2005 08:26:38 AM · #12
Originally posted by HighwayFlower:

Just my 2 cents, but I take all week to vote, and I find I have plenty of time. I like the idea of requring a percentage of votes to come with comments, but I dont think it would be right or fair to limit how many people can enter a challange. You dont HAVE to vote on all the entries, so I dont understand what the big deal is. Just vote on the 20% required or dont vote at all.


Thank you for your two cents. I just feel bad when I don't have time to vote on all of the enties. With the results being so close, I know that even one vote can make a difference. I see entries all the time that I thought they should have done better, maybe even gotten in the top 3 if I would have voted. I am not ranting it is just a pet peev with me thats all. I guess I just have personel issues I need to deal with.
07/06/2005 08:26:42 AM · #13
how bout quit whinning and don't vote at all if you don't have time...geez

I didn't enter when I saw it hitting the 400 mark and I won't be voting either...take a little vacation ; )

Message edited by author 2005-07-06 08:27:41.
07/06/2005 08:32:36 AM · #14
Originally posted by fotoshootme:

how bout quit whinning and don't vote at all if you don't have time...geez

I didn't enter when I saw it hitting the 400 mark and I won't be voting either...take a little vacation ; )


you do not have to be that way. If you want to turn this into a RANT, we can.
07/06/2005 08:33:21 AM · #15
Originally posted by fotolady:

Originally posted by fotoshootme:

I didn't enter when I saw it hitting the 400 mark and I won't be voting either...take a little vacation ; )

you do not have to be that way. If you want to turn this into a RANT, we can.


Fight!
07/06/2005 08:36:14 AM · #16
Originally posted by fotolady:

With the results being so close, I know that even one vote can make a difference.


One vote will not make a difference in placing. This has been long debated and after I receive around 100 votes I know my score will be within .1000 of that score at that time. To prove it my Macro entry is at 4.8954 right now with 153 total votes. I am will to bet it will finish 4.8000-5.000 We will see.
07/06/2005 08:39:28 AM · #17
Some people seem to be scared of competition I don't see why you should pull your image if the number of entries get high.

You should be proud of your work and if it's ready, enter it and see how it goes, thats the idea of the DPC.

I would never pull an image simply because there was 400 plus entries.
07/06/2005 08:42:16 AM · #18
Originally posted by rex:

One vote will not make a difference in placing.


I beg to differ. Compare the average scores on the first and second place finishers in the Feet challenge. Sometimes one vote is all it takes.
07/06/2005 08:44:00 AM · #19
Originally posted by Sam Jowett:

How about changing the 20% rule for a 10% rate and comment rule? So long as everyone gets the photos displayed randomly during voting and each photo gets plenty of votes (say 50+), the final scores should be representative of everyones opinions?


I'd just like to point out that while the photos may get displayed in random order, you can pass on ones you don't want to vote for, so it may well be that certain striking pics are getting more votes than others. There are probably solutions for this... e.g. the site could open, say, 20% of the photos for voting and once you've voted on all of those open more.

For the record, I do not support limiting the number of submissions members are allowed to make (although it probably means I'll NEVER get a ribbon :)
07/06/2005 08:49:07 AM · #20
Originally posted by keegbow:

Some people seem to be scared of competition I don't see why you should pull your image if the number of entries get high.

You should be proud of your work and if it's ready, enter it and see how it goes, thats the idea of the DPC.

I would never pull an image simply because there was 400 plus entries.


I hate it when people put words in my mouth.....I never said I pulled my entry because of the high number of entries. I said I am glad I pulled it. The only reason I pulled the image is because I have limited myself to the fact that I will put so much work into and entry before I just say the hell with it. I got something I finally liked and noticed a spec of dust on the glass and just stopped eveything and said the hell with it.
07/06/2005 08:50:32 AM · #21
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by rex:

One vote will not make a difference in placing.


I beg to differ. Compare the average scores on the first and second place finishers in the Feet challenge. Sometimes one vote is all it takes.


For months I have heard different now it has changed.....hmmmm. I still don't see how one vote will change the results and never will.
07/06/2005 08:51:59 AM · #22
I always like to vote on all the entries--but lately, when it's that big, unless it's a really interesting challenge topic with a good amount of great entries, I don't vote them all. Time versus incentive in my case.

I agree that, while it would be unpopular, there should be a way to discourage rather than limit a large number of entries. Perhaps it could be done in a positive way.

Some ideas/examples:

1) Comments marked "useful" are used as credits for entering. You must have 10 (or some decided upon number) such comments in the previous week to enter. Now that would up the number of comments, wouldn't it!

2) You must have voted for at least 50% of the previous weeks entries in the specific challenge type you are entering.

3) Have a third challenge every week! You can only enter two of them.

4) Limit it so you can only enter 6 challenges a month (or something like that). That would allow people to enter all the challenges in a week if they were ones they were especially interested in, but would make them "think" twice about entering a challenge where they didn't have a strong entry, just to enter. People will tend to "save up" their entry credits for the week when there are good ones.

I'm sure there are other ideas, both yet unexpressed and in other threads of this searchless forum ;) I just wanted to say that I agree that the challenges are too big.
07/06/2005 08:52:17 AM · #23
Originally posted by rgo:


Members can enter either the open or member challenge in any given week, but not both.


I think the same scenario could be used with the registered users: only let them enter one challenge in a given week... kidding, only kidding. :-)

One thought that I've pondered on is how much the site has grown even in the short time I've been involved here, and that number will only continue to grow with how incredible this site is and the influx of digital cameras in the world today. Digital is surpassing film (if it hasn't already) and more and more people are using them and then learning the editing tools to enhance them. It's only a matter of time before we see an open challenge with around 700 entries.

07/06/2005 08:54:14 AM · #24
Originally posted by Telehubbie:


I think the same scenario could be used with the registered users: only let them enter one challenge in a given week... kidding, only kidding. :-)


I know you are kidding but that is all the registered user can enter now. One open challenge per week.
07/06/2005 08:55:29 AM · #25
Originally posted by rgo:

Just tossing this out there...
I think one approach that would be fair and might reduce the number of entries in open challenges, at the same time that this might also improve quality:
Members can enter either the open or member challenge in any given week, but not both.

Not a bad idea, but one of the 'perks' of becoming a member is being able to enter 2 challenges in one week.
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