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05/29/2005 12:34:24 AM · #1 |
The following image, shot at dawn on an obercast day, has not made the cut for my "beauty" entry. Why? Because it's too photogenic, even though the conditions were not especially good. I'm interested, in this challenge, in taking the "ordinary" and helping others see the beauty in it. So I have a couple other shots, not related to this, that I am mulling over. I hope the voters are perceptive enough to take this approach as well; let's not vote the most beautiful SUBJECT to the top of the list, but instead reward the photogrpaher who best shows us the beauty in what we might otherwise overlook...
Robt.
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05/29/2005 12:46:48 AM · #2 |
| Your contemplation is on the money. I have not decided on my image and there is a chance that I may pass this wonderful challenge. The objective of beauty is not very easy to portray. We can do flowers, sunsets, nightshots...we can do the mundane and make it beautiful. But then our image has to be so special. It is this special thing that is so elusive. Almost anything can be presented in a beautiful manner, but then, if we enter with the intention of competing we want ours to meet the goal. Again, not a difficult challenge but one that requires the lovely tint of of sheer beauty. |
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05/29/2005 12:48:31 AM · #3 |
I understand your decision and I agree. I think it will be an interesting challenge to score. I haven't been active in the voting for awhile, but plan to take the time for this one.
I also did not enter a photo that I really like because I did not see it as a creative or challenging idea for "beauty"
Beauty reject
I don't think I'll have a chance to really work on an alternate shot, but I'm hoping to be much more selective in my challenge entries. That will mean sitting out for many of them, but I'd rather show my best. |
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05/29/2005 01:15:13 AM · #4 |
I agree, but I have faith in a lot of the DPCers to really come up with some creative stuff. I've seen challenges in the last couple of months that REALLY stumped me as to how anyone could POSSIBLY take a great photo...and I've been proven wrong in every possible way.
BTW, I absolutely adore that photo. It's extremely well done and I'd love to see you get it available for print! |
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05/29/2005 10:03:43 AM · #5 |
I also like the photo very much, what you are entering is probably really good!
I am still deciding between 2 photos, they are both very different and can't deside if to enter something that is more beautiful but "common" or the other which is very unususal. I have asked a few friends and family and most went with one that was more "common". Oh well I have all day to deside!
Oh and here is another outtake:
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05/29/2005 10:34:23 AM · #6 |
I politely disagree...a beautiful subject is only beautiful in an image if captured in a beautiful manner.
Anybody can take a snapshot of a beautiful rock formation at the beach, a cool looking fencerow, a flower in full bloom, boats anchored in a harbor, or an interesting old barn.
To make that same subject stand out as an outstanding photograph takes many correct ingredients: composition, lighting, DOF, focus, contrast, grain, etc...
Let beauty be found wherever it is, whatever it is, and present it to the viewer the best way possible - if successful, the viewer will say "That's Beautiful!".
Originally posted by bear_music:
... let's not vote the most beautiful SUBJECT to the top of the list... |
Message edited by author 2005-05-29 10:35:11.
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05/29/2005 10:41:58 AM · #7 |
bear.... i just want to tell you....YOU ROCK!
you speak your mind always with such flare and grace...
thank you
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05/29/2005 10:56:59 AM · #8 |
Well...I had a hard time deciding on this challenge and so I went with something totally different and either you like it or not.
I agree with bear's post on this though. I have a feeling about the types of entries we are about to see, hope I am wrong.
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05/29/2005 11:26:20 AM · #9 |
I would not presume to judge the voters perceptions of what is or is not beautiful. I believe that beauty is pretty much universal and the overwhelming majority of the teeming masses know the differences between beautiful and ugly, they do not need lessons.
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05/29/2005 11:43:32 AM · #10 |
 "Fading Beauty" -I like it but know it will get blasted
Message edited by author 2005-05-29 11:44:03. |
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05/29/2005 11:46:16 AM · #11 |
Beautifully scary!
Message edited by author 2005-06-02 22:24:07. |
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05/29/2005 12:17:23 PM · #12 |
Thank You.
Originally posted by ElGordo:
I would not presume to judge the voters perceptions of what is or is not beautiful. I believe that beauty is pretty much universal and the overwhelming majority of the teeming masses know the differences between beautiful and ugly, they do not need lessons. |
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05/29/2005 12:29:56 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
The following image, shot at dawn on an obercast day, has not made the cut for my "beauty" entry. Why? Because it's too photogenic, even though the conditions were not especially good. I'm interested, in this challenge, in taking the "ordinary" and helping others see the beauty in it. So I have a couple other shots, not related to this, that I am mulling over. I hope the voters are perceptive enough to take this approach as well; let's not vote the most beautiful SUBJECT to the top of the list, but instead reward the photogrpaher who best shows us the beauty in what we might otherwise overlook...
Robt. |
I would suggest that this image perfectly meets your expressed criteria of highlighting beauty in the ordinary.
I'm certain that most people walk past this view many times yet never give it a second thought, but that your photograph would help them to see the beauty that is always there. That is the hallmark of good photography.
I would further suggest that each photographer decide for themselves how they choose to capture beauty in their photography and, for this challenge, decide how they choose to vote it as well.
Message edited by author 2005-05-29 12:32:55. |
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05/29/2005 01:06:15 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Originally posted by bear_music:
The following image, shot at dawn on an obercast day, has not made the cut for my "beauty" entry. Why? Because it's too photogenic, even though the conditions were not especially good. I'm interested, in this challenge, in taking the "ordinary" and helping others see the beauty in it. So I have a couple other shots, not related to this, that I am mulling over. I hope the voters are perceptive enough to take this approach as well; let's not vote the most beautiful SUBJECT to the top of the list, but instead reward the photogrpaher who best shows us the beauty in what we might otherwise overlook...
Robt. |
I would suggest that this image perfectly meets your expressed criteria of highlighting beauty in the ordinary.
I'm certain that most people walk past this view many times yet never give it a second thought, but that your photograph would help them to see the beauty that is always there. That is the hallmark of good photography.
I would further suggest that each photographer decide for themselves how they choose to capture beauty in their photography and, for this challenge, decide how they choose to vote it as well. |
Up to a point I agree, and this was originally my entry, but I took it down based on the simple fact that it IS a seascape, and that's more-or-less a cliché of "beautiful" for me. In the image's favor, it was a grey, overcast dawn and the scen was easy to overlook.
I like th eone I've put in a lot, but this might very well have done better; I just wanted to taste my own medicine, so to speak :-)
R.
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05/29/2005 01:12:03 PM · #15 |
ya know, I was not going to enter in this challenge originally.
BUT, this challenge, and the next in line, are sooooooo subjective, it really does not matter what I submit.
I think I will enter a pix, and just see where it takes me.
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05/29/2005 01:14:04 PM · #16 |
I definitely agree with the intention to show something in this challenge that would not be typically thought of as beautiful in a beautiful way. This is exactly what I wanted to do, but the more I worked with my lower-end camera, the harder and more frustrated I got.
The shot I finally settled on could definitely be considered a more cliche shot in this challenge, however I feel like it's one of the best I've ever taken.
I just hope that people will not vote down something just because it might be considered cliche, but actually look at the photo and vote on it as an individual. |
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05/29/2005 01:22:01 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Blinks:
I definitely agree with the intention to show something in this challenge that would not be typically thought of as beautiful in a beautiful way. |
I have been reading this thread and several people have commented that the rules for this challenge says to "show something ordinary in a beautiful way." I re-read the challenge instructions and unless there was something there that was removed, I saw nothing that says that. It says, "Challenge Details: Beauty is very hard to describe, but we all know it when we see it. Take a photo that makes the viewer say "that's beautiful."
So either I am not reading that into the details or I am not fully reading and understanding the challenge details.
Can some explain where that notion came from?
Teresa |
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05/29/2005 01:27:39 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by twm122:
Originally posted by Blinks:
I definitely agree with the intention to show something in this challenge that would not be typically thought of as beautiful in a beautiful way. |
I have been reading this thread and several people have commented that the rules for this challenge says to "show something ordinary in a beautiful way." I re-read the challenge instructions and unless there was something there that was removed, I saw nothing that says that. It says, "Challenge Details: Beauty is very hard to describe, but we all know it when we see it. Take a photo that makes the viewer say "that's beautiful."
So either I am not reading that into the details or I am not fully reading and understanding the challenge details.
Can some explain where that notion came from?
Teresa |
The keyword there was INTENTION, not requirement. This is just an example of trying to think outside of the box. I agree with you, that that was not the specific challenge, but it's something that would be fun and challenging to do. |
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05/29/2005 01:44:52 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Blinks:
... This is just an example of trying to think outside of the box. ... |
No - The intent of this thread was more than just trying to think outside of the box, it's a blatant attempt to influence voters into thinking that entering a photo of a beautiful subject is not a 'valid' approach to this challenge. Please see my earlier post for additional thoughts on my position if you're interested.
Originally posted by bear_music:
... I hope the voters are perceptive enough... let's not vote the most beautiful SUBJECT to the top of the list... |
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05/29/2005 01:51:09 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Blinks:
I just hope that people will not vote down something just because it might be considered cliche, but actually look at the photo and vote on it as an individual. |
If you see my previous post as well, you'll see that I agree with you. I guess I just didn't want to believe that this thread was a blatant attempt to influence voters, but to be honest that's what I'm afraid of. |
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05/29/2005 01:59:22 PM · #21 |
I'm reading this challenge as: "The image has to be beautiful."
Take the filthiest beggar, the ugliest dumpster etc in your vicinity, and if the image produced is beautiful, I believe it should score very nicely.
Take someone or something that 99.9% of us would consider to be a beautiful person or thing (I know...we're not ever going to agree), but take a snapshot that would be right at home in a tabloid, then I reckon this kind of an image shouldn't do well.
I'm sure there will be images that involve beautiful things shot well, if not beautifully. I reckon the top images would be from this batch. I guess it's kind of like a free study.
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05/29/2005 04:16:15 PM · #22 |
Since "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" the entries will be wide open but that doesn't mean that you have to agree with the beholder. A nicely taken image will most likely get respect either way but I feel that my entry is going to take a back seat to a sexy girl...I can feel it in my bones.
Here's a Black Crowned Night Heron, I caught angling for frogs...another outake.
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05/29/2005 04:34:35 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Blinks:
... This is just an example of trying to think outside of the box. ... |
No - The intent of this thread was more than just trying to think outside of the box, it's a blatant attempt to influence voters into thinking that entering a photo of a beautiful subject is not a 'valid' approach to this challenge. Please see my earlier post for additional thoughts on my position if you're interested.
Originally posted by bear_music:
... I hope the voters are perceptive enough... let's not vote the most beautiful SUBJECT to the top of the list... |
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glad2badad, I agree that that seems like an attempt to prejudice the vote. But judge not harshly, most DPCers are well intentioned.
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05/29/2005 05:10:26 PM · #24 |
Not a member, yet. If I were, I'd enter this guy.
Beauty |
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05/29/2005 05:11:44 PM · #25 |
Agreed, and I have respect for the originator of this thread, but I just couldn't let this direction of thought go undebated.
Originally posted by ElGordo:
...most DPCers are well intentioned. |
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