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05/18/2005 08:19:25 PM · #51
So far most of the links posted in this thread have been referral links. How much do you people make off each signup?
05/18/2005 08:20:52 PM · #52
I have made about 230 on shutterstock and 130 on istockphoto so far this year. I have 200 photos on shutterstock and about 90 on istock.
05/18/2005 08:38:35 PM · #53
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:

So far most of the links posted in this thread have been referral links. How much do you people make off each signup?


Nothing for a signup. If your referral sells photos, you get $0.03 for every photo they sell. At least that's how it works on Shutterstock. That's the only referral program I'm involved with right now.

It's not much, I know. But if you manage to get some really good photographers to sign up, it can add up over time.
05/18/2005 08:39:44 PM · #54
At what point though does the hobby become a job?
05/18/2005 09:05:59 PM · #55
For me doing stock is more about getting my name out than making money, granted I only started doing this last week..... but still if people doing high profile advertising start seeing a photog's name over and over again they'll start thinking about trying to get that person to do THEIR ad, and that's where the money is made.... at least that's how I see it.
05/18/2005 09:19:06 PM · #56
Originally posted by Jewellian:

For me doing stock is more about getting my name out than making money, granted I only started doing this last week..... but still if people doing high profile advertising start seeing a photog's name over and over again they'll start thinking about trying to get that person to do THEIR ad, and that's where the money is made.... at least that's how I see it.


I can see going through these sites for fun and to possibly make a couple of bucks but doing it to get your name out in the hopes of doing "high profile advertising" seems a little far fetched at best. Having a portfolio at Getty is one thing. Having a portfolio, even an outstanding one, at a $1 a download site is another. I can't imagine a major advertising agency spending any time at one of these sites.
05/18/2005 09:34:02 PM · #57
Originally posted by rex:

Originally posted by melking23:


What questions do you have!


I just don't know if it is really worth it. I guess I need to take a look at your site and see what is needed. I have a 3.2MP and a 4.0MP camera so I think I can meet the requirements. How long does it take to get a lot of photos? I did look at Dreamstime and that looks the most promising but if I sign up for one I think it would be best to sogn up for all to get the most bang. Can I submit the same image to all sites?


I have heard of some images getting rejected for noise issues, not a problem with a dslr but could be with a prosumer level camera.
05/18/2005 09:36:14 PM · #58
Originally posted by nico_blue:

I have made about 230 on shutterstock and 130 on istockphoto so far this year. I have 200 photos on shutterstock and about 90 on istock.


Sooo...$2/photo a year on average. So to make $10,000 you'd need 5,000 images. Perhaps there'd be some additional benefit from having sooo many images.
05/18/2005 10:40:25 PM · #59
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Originally posted by nico_blue:

I have made about 230 on shutterstock and 130 on istockphoto so far this year. I have 200 photos on shutterstock and about 90 on istock.


Sooo...$2/photo a year on average. So to make $10,000 you'd need 5,000 images. Perhaps there'd be some additional benefit from having sooo many images.

If you have them all on that site. Most people who are "serious" about micro stock have their portfolios posted at multiple sites. I bet anyone who's put together a 5000 picture collection of RF stock has some rights-managed shots posted somewheres as well. So no, I don't think you can "make a living" just submitting to Shutterstock (or any one agency), but RF stock can be a significant augmentation to one's income nonetheless.
05/18/2005 11:18:49 PM · #60
ahhh 2 weeks! i have to wait up till 2 weeks to see if i have been approved for istock ... is that the normal turn around time for waiting for images to be approved? or is it cause it's the samples application thing ... thanks a bunch!
05/19/2005 03:52:37 AM · #61
If I submit photos to these stock agencies, what rights do I have to the photos submitted? Can I sell them for big bucks somewhere else if the opportunity comes along? I looked on istock's website and could not find the answers. I also want to make sure in writing somewhere that I can submit the same photos to more than one agency. Is that speeled out on any of the sites?
05/19/2005 04:07:59 AM · #62
Originally posted by pixieland:

If I submit photos to these stock agencies, what rights do I have to the photos submitted? Can I sell them for big bucks somewhere else if the opportunity comes along? I looked on istock's website and could not find the answers. I also want to make sure in writing somewhere that I can submit the same photos to more than one agency. Is that speeled out on any of the sites?


Read the FAQs carefully. Some may want you to go exclusive and some don't care if you sell at multiple places. Some offers a little bit more if you go exclusive.

Most sites will let you take down a stock picture from their site if you plan to sell it for a big payday or decide not to offer it anymore.

Message edited by author 2005-05-19 04:09:21.
05/19/2005 04:09:19 AM · #63
Originally posted by pixieland:

...Is that speeled out on any of the sites?


I don't know if it's "speeled out" anywhere but here is a link to the information you need.

iStockphoto.com Artist's Supply Agreement (NON-EXCLUSIVE)

In short, unless you are in their exclusivity program you can take the image to whatever agency you want. There are no restrictions on iStockphoto's side. However, the other agency may have restrictions.
05/19/2005 06:42:22 AM · #64
Originally posted by PhotosByAyme:

ahhh 2 weeks! i have to wait up till 2 weeks to see if i have been approved for istock ... is that the normal turn around time for waiting for images to be approved? or is it cause it's the samples application thing ... thanks a bunch!


Yes it takes a little while to get approved at Istock, so signup with some other sites while you are waiting, the other sites don't take very long to get approved

Message edited by author 2005-05-19 06:43:46.
05/19/2005 06:46:10 AM · #65
Originally posted by pixieland:

If I submit photos to these stock agencies, what rights do I have to the photos submitted? Can I sell them for big bucks somewhere else if the opportunity comes along? I looked on istock's website and could not find the answers. I also want to make sure in writing somewhere that I can submit the same photos to more than one agency. Is that speeled out on any of the sites?


Yes you can sell them for big bucks if you want as long as you don't go exclusive.
05/19/2005 09:00:48 AM · #66
Originally posted by melking23:

Originally posted by PhotosByAyme:

ahhh 2 weeks! i have to wait up till 2 weeks to see if i have been approved for istock ... is that the normal turn around time for waiting for images to be approved? or is it cause it's the samples application thing ... thanks a bunch!


Yes it takes a little while to get approved at Istock, so signup with some other sites while you are waiting, the other sites don't take very long to get approved


thanks ... i submitted to shutterstock and dreamstime last night too :)
05/19/2005 09:19:10 AM · #67
Speeled-because it was 4:00 in the morning and I was too interested to quit reading the forum and go to bed.
I was all excited cause I have lots of photos that I thought wouldd be acceptable, but the majority were taken when I first got my camera and they are only 1280x960. I always thought this was an acceptable size for most media but it appears that it's not high enough resolution. Is there anyway I can use these photos? I saw where they warned against upsizing more than 5% (as if I could do the math on that when my spelling is already failing me)-Anybody got an anwer to this? If I had one of these photos printed and then scanned at 300 dpi, would that be stupid? Please don't laugh too loud ! LOL
05/19/2005 09:54:05 AM · #68
Originally posted by pixieland:

Speeled-because it was 4:00 in the morning and I was too interested to quit reading the forum and go to bed.
I was all excited cause I have lots of photos that I thought wouldd be acceptable, but the majority were taken when I first got my camera and they are only 1280x960. I always thought this was an acceptable size for most media but it appears that it's not high enough resolution. Is there anyway I can use these photos? I saw where they warned against upsizing more than 5% (as if I could do the math on that when my spelling is already failing me)-Anybody got an anwer to this? If I had one of these photos printed and then scanned at 300 dpi, would that be stupid? Please don't laugh too loud ! LOL


You could try using Genuine Fractals. Upsizing using that isnt suppose to cause issues and is acceptable by other 'larger' stock agencies.
05/19/2005 10:10:46 AM · #69
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Originally posted by nico_blue:

I have made about 230 on shutterstock and 130 on istockphoto so far this year. I have 200 photos on shutterstock and about 90 on istock.


Sooo...$2/photo a year on average. So to make $10,000 you'd need 5,000 images. Perhaps there'd be some additional benefit from having sooo many images.


I've seen many sources suggest that to guage your stock income you should assume $1 per image per year. I've also seen 10,000 images suggested as a starting point for stock as a serious component of your income. The first place I saw this was John Shaw's Business of Nature Photography book, and many times on the web since.

If you're seeing $2 / image, then I'd say your either right-on or above expectations.
05/19/2005 11:38:50 AM · #70
Originally posted by cghubbell:



I've seen many sources suggest that to guage your stock income you should assume $1 per image per year. I've also seen 10,000 images suggested as a starting point for stock as a serious component of your income. The first place I saw this was John Shaw's Business of Nature Photography book, and many times on the web since.

If you're seeing $2 / image, then I'd say your either right-on or above expectations.


I've read this to, but I believe this is strictly for nature photography due to the glut of excellent images out there. But for businiess and lifestyle (where there is greater demand and "dated" images get culled from stock databases), the expectation should be higher. I read where stock photo agent/consultant suggested that $80 per image per year was considered very low. Although, that comment was probably geared towards the top-notch pro.

05/19/2005 04:54:19 PM · #71
Originally posted by dogz:

Originally posted by cghubbell:



I've seen many sources suggest that to guage your stock income you should assume $1 per image per year. I've also seen 10,000 images suggested as a starting point for stock as a serious component of your income. The first place I saw this was John Shaw's Business of Nature Photography book, and many times on the web since.

If you're seeing $2 / image, then I'd say your either right-on or above expectations.


I've read this to, but I believe this is strictly for nature photography due to the glut of excellent images out there. But for businiess and lifestyle (where there is greater demand and "dated" images get culled from stock databases), the expectation should be higher. I read where stock photo agent/consultant suggested that $80 per image per year was considered very low. Although, that comment was probably geared towards the top-notch pro.


I make more then a $1.00 per image per year on istock more like $2.00
05/19/2005 05:22:23 PM · #72
Originally posted by moodville:

Originally posted by pixieland:

Speeled-because it was 4:00 in the morning and I was too interested to quit reading the forum and go to bed.
I was all excited cause I have lots of photos that I thought wouldd be acceptable, but the majority were taken when I first got my camera and they are only 1280x960. I always thought this was an acceptable size for most media but it appears that it's not high enough resolution. Is there anyway I can use these photos? I saw where they warned against upsizing more than 5% (as if I could do the math on that when my spelling is already failing me)-Anybody got an anwer to this? If I had one of these photos printed and then scanned at 300 dpi, would that be stupid? Please don't laugh too loud ! LOL


You could try using Genuine Fractals. Upsizing using that isnt suppose to cause issues and is acceptable by other 'larger' stock agencies.


Thanks for the info. I've never heard of Genuine Fractals, is it a software program that is pretty common? Have you used it for stock photography?
Does anyone else have anymore info on this.
05/19/2005 05:32:46 PM · #73
Originally posted by pixieland:

Thanks for the info. I've never heard of Genuine Fractals, is it a software program that is pretty common? Have you used it for stock photography?
Does anyone else have anymore info on this.

It's what Alamy recommend for upsizing files to their requirements (they ask for a minimum 48Mb TIFF). It's pretty impressive in what it does - the files I upsized for Alamy look good at 100%.

They have a limited-use demo on their website - it's a Photoshop plugin, the only thing to be aware of is that although the demo will work happily with PS6, the full version requires Photoshop CS.
05/19/2005 05:36:58 PM · #74

They have a limited-use demo on their website - it's a Photoshop plugin, the only thing to be aware of is that although the demo will work happily with PS6, the full version requires Photoshop CS.

Great,Thanks, one more thing, do you know if is it compatible with PC and Mac?
05/19/2005 05:38:41 PM · #75
Looking at their website here, the demo appears to come in Windows and Mac flavours.
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