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05/12/2005 03:40:00 PM · #1
I figured it was spam, but was curious to see where the trail would lead.

Subject: [Notification] - Unauthorized Account Access! Verify Your Identity.
From: "service@paypal.com"

Dear PayPal user,

We recently noticed one or more attempts to log in to your PayPal account from a foreign IP address.

If you recently accessed your account while traveling, the unusual log in attempts may have been initiated by you.
However, if you did not initiate the log ins, please visit PayPal as soon as possible to verify your identity:

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr? cmd=_login-run

Verify your identity is a security measure that will ensure that you are
the only person with access to the account.

Thanks for your patience as we work together to protect your account.

Sincerely,
PayPal
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PROTECT YOUR PASSWORD

NEVER give your password to anyone and ONLY log in at
https://www.paypal.com/. Protect yourself against fraudulent websites by
opening a new web browser (e.g. Internet Explorer or Netscape) and typing in the PayPal URL every time you log in to your account.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Please do not reply to this e-mail. Mail sent to this address cannot be
answered. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and choose the
"Help" link in the header of any page.
PayPal Email ID PP481


The https caught my eye as a secure url, but when I held the cursor over the link, I could see the hypertext link it actually linked to:
//210.104.116.251/manual/%20/www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscrcmd_login.php

More suspicion, so Off I go to do a WHOIS on the 210.104.116.251 IP and think it was Paypal? Hehehehe - not a chance:
Asia Pacific Network Information Centre

Amazing how real they can make themselves look...

Just be smart - someone out there wants YOUR Username & Password!

+++++++++++++ Edited to add ++++++++++++++++++

(On Paypal's Website)
Top Questions

How can I tell the difference between a real PayPal email and a fake one?

The term spoofing and phishing have been used to describe the act of collecting personal information using a fake email in order to commit identity theft, credit card, and Internet fraud. If you click on a link included in an email you're not sure is from PayPal, make sure the address at the top of the browser window you're brought to reads exactly //www.paypal.com.

PayPal emails will address you by first name, last name, or business name, and NOT by Dear PayPal User or Dear PayPal Member.

If you are ever uncertain about the validity of the email or the email links, open a new web browser window and type in //www.paypal.com.

If you think you have received a fraudulent email, forward the entire email to spoof@paypal.com and then delete it from your email account.

Message edited by author 2005-05-12 15:49:09.
05/12/2005 03:46:48 PM · #2
Yeh there are loads of these about. I usually get between 4 - 8 a week. Mind you not having a paypal account helps!
I also get emails about my 'bank' accounts at various banks, some in the uk some in the usa!!

There was also one going round that said someone had left you a greeting card and it gave you a link to it. If you clicked on the link then it downloaded a virus - some nasty people about - fortunately these are picked up by my BT/Yahoo spam filter and I normally log on to my webmail once a week and delete them and the other 500 plus crap.


05/12/2005 03:48:03 PM · #3
yes i got scammed from a similar paypal look alike letter and as my bf(dustdevil) says I am far too trusting of everything. The letter wanted to verify my password and other information to keep it current. I have to cancel my credit card and everything was such a pain! What a mess it was.......and worst part was having to listen to "I told you so" knowing he was exactly right!
Live and learn I guess.....
05/12/2005 03:49:45 PM · #4
I get a lot of that sort of thing from both paypal and ebay... if i still can't decide if it's legit, I'll go to the site in a new window and check out the site myself...
05/12/2005 03:50:45 PM · #5
I might have fallen for this a month or two ago except all my cc's are maxed out and all but useless. So unless some smooth-talking scammer wants to pay some of my bills, I don't have too much to worry about ;-)

That said..I'm gonna go change my password.....
05/12/2005 03:51:39 PM · #6
I got the same one (actually my wife did and she always gets me when she sees these types) and also Whois'd them. and found that I needed to Whois the APNIC and then got a Korean Authority KRNIC (The National Internet Registry in Korea under APNIC) and found that that IP range is registered to:

inetnum: 210.104.116.192 - 210.104.116.255
netname: PUBNET-PUBNET2001005683-KR
descr: Yonghyun Elementary School

Go Figure... Probably a faculty member or someone just using the ementary school computers...

05/12/2005 03:57:18 PM · #7
This is what I just found in my spam filter. Like Brad said if you were to run your mouse over the URL it goes to a 202.79.137.180 IP address where some very nice person will collect all your details and then log in as you and bingo! all your money has vanished.

By the way I dont have a Lloyds TSB bank account



Message edited by author 2005-05-12 16:01:45.
05/12/2005 04:07:32 PM · #8
Wow! Thanks for the post!! It's incredible how serious this guys can be to rip you off!!
05/12/2005 04:15:58 PM · #9
I got it too. I also got another one supposedly from my website host where the information was accurate but something still seemed suspicious about the link for their address. So I avoided that link and accessed the site through my normal means to check it out. There just is no good reason to trust the email links when you can easily get to the sites directly in a safe manner.

I guess I would be a little happier if just once in a while I would here about these criminals getting caught and prosecuted. I think so very little is ever being done to track these criminals down and so things are just going to get worse. Ok, end of soapbox rant.

T
05/12/2005 04:24:55 PM · #10
I get the paypal email about once a week and an ebay one usually several times a week. One thing to keep in mind is that neither company would ever ask you for personal/account information. They already have all the info! Another suggestion they have is to open another page and go to their site typing in the address yourself to check it out.
I'm far too suspicious to ever respond to any of those things!

I do however forward them all to spoof@paypal.com or spoof@ebay.com. I figure it only takes me a few seconds to do that and maybe it will help them to stop some of these people from fraudulently representing themselves as them. Ya know?

Most of these emails end up in my bulk because of the spam filter, but sometimes one slips through. Not often though. So if you can get a spam filter I highly reccomend it! SBC/Yahoo has it.
05/12/2005 04:40:01 PM · #11
It was in my spam folder.
I was bored and wanted to see how well these con artists have come in their identity appearances as being realistic.
05/12/2005 04:43:45 PM · #12
If you're at all uncertain about an email requesting information, either 1) ignore the email, or 2) type the address BY HAND into your web browser.
05/12/2005 05:09:36 PM · #13
I have also received the Pay Pal fraud spam email. I received one from a bank in San Fransisco. My identity was compromised... I did not respond to either of them.

forward your emails to: spam@uce.gov

the agent I spoke to mentioned that they were aware of these emails, but haven't been able to stop them. He says basically, "the squeeky wheel gets the grease" so if people would do a little whining, they might catch these a_ _holes. Some people are ignorant of the implications and actually fill these things out. Personal thoughts: Pay Pal should stop them from somehow from linking to them since both of those scam mails I got where generated immediately following a Pay Pal ligitimate transaction.

Message edited by author 2005-05-12 17:12:23.
05/12/2005 05:15:17 PM · #14
PayPal will always address you by your full name:

Dear Ben Peter Roberts,

So if it says To PayPal user it is 100% definately a fake.
05/12/2005 05:25:46 PM · #15
Originally posted by Konador:

PayPal will always address you by your full name:

Dear Ben Peter Roberts,

So if it says To PayPal user it is 100% definately a fake.


Sadly, not everyone knows that, in fact few seem to. People do actually fill these out, loose all the $ they don't have. I had to lock down my bank accts and cards, went penniless for a week, while it was all sorted out_and remember I didn't fill them out.

Some of these place cookies on your hard drive so they can hack onto your system. After you forward to the; spam@uce.gov site, delete the email from your system and then you should delete all your cookies if you receive these bogus emails.
05/12/2005 05:33:15 PM · #16
I've seen these as well, something funy though. if your background in Outlook is grey... you can see a WHOLE bunch of nonsense words after the message, but they're in white so they only show up on a background that's not white.
05/12/2005 05:40:20 PM · #17
I have always wanted to fillout the forum with BOGUS info, but not sure if they are tracking IP address and try to hack into my PC

Some good fake names and such

Charles U. Farley
1313 Mockingbird Lane
Huntsville, MO 89335

James
05/12/2005 05:48:10 PM · #18
well...

Dear Ben Peter Roberts,
If you would kindly fill out the form below DPC will give you a blue ribbon.

SSN#:
Address: State:
Tel:

:)... just joking don't ban my account plz ^.^
Originally posted by sofapez:

Originally posted by Konador:

PayPal will always address you by your full name:

Dear Ben Peter Roberts,

So if it says To PayPal user it is 100% definately a fake.


Sadly, not everyone knows that, in fact few seem to. People do actually fill these out, loose all the $ they don't have. I had to lock down my bank accts and cards, went penniless for a week, while it was all sorted out_and remember I didn't fill them out.

Some of these place cookies on your hard drive so they can hack onto your system. After you forward to the; spam@uce.gov site, delete the email from your system and then you should delete all your cookies if you receive these bogus emails.

05/12/2005 05:50:56 PM · #19
Originally posted by Jewellian:

I've seen these as well, something funy though. if your background in Outlook is grey... you can see a WHOLE bunch of nonsense words after the message, but they're in white so they only show up on a background that's not white.


The nonsense words are probably attempts to get the email past spam filters.

I get phishing emails regularly. I always forward them to the appropriate spoof reporting account (e.g., spoof@paypal.com) so they can work to get the bogus URL disconnected and an investigation started.
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