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05/11/2005 12:24:17 AM · #1
Congatulations to our three winners, the photos are very beautiful. However, none of them speak to me about the difference between Nite and "LATE" Nite. Am I looking too far into the challenge? To me, a shot taken outside looks the same at 8pm as it does at 3am. So because the challenge was titled "Late Nite" and the instructions said to take a picture outside late at nite, I thought the composition was what we were looking for here. I thought the idea was to express activity or situations that occur "Later" in the evening. Please tell me if I misunderstood this challenge.
05/11/2005 12:29:33 AM · #2
You'll never get everybody to agree on something like that. There's probably a big crowd who'd vote down anything taken after midnight, because then it's morning.

I really took it to mean take a photo when it's truly dark, not in the dusky twilight.
05/11/2005 12:37:50 AM · #3
Thanks for the comment, I never thought to look at it that way.
05/11/2005 11:51:03 AM · #4
Originally posted by eyesightphoto:

Congatulations to our three winners, the photos are very beautiful. However, none of them speak to me about the difference between Nite and "LATE" Nite.


I am in total agreement with you, eyesight. I felt "Late Night" equated to the time when most of us are asleep, with the exception of those who must work third shift. When a wife says to her husband, "You sure came in late last night." one envisions her as having been asleep when he came in, not awake and being active. Hence my submission of "Restless" that speaks of two peole being abnormally awake while the city rests around them. Only 3 or 4 commentors said they got the gist of my "story." Elsewhere, I saw maybe 8 shots that I felt put me in a frame of mind as being late at night, and none of them cracked the top 15. In my short time at DPC, I have come to realize that voters weigh less the skilled photographic interpretation of the theme; and more on the beauty of the shot, as long as it is marginally within a framework of the theme.

I don't put a value on that as good or bad. It is just a fact.
05/11/2005 12:08:33 PM · #5
I define late night sitting with friends, drinking beer, smoking cigars, playing poker on a daddys night out.
05/11/2005 06:07:07 PM · #6
To: Ron Beam.

THANK YOU for validating our thoughts (my wife works with me on the projects - she doesn't shoot, but is usually my model.)

Anyway, good to know someone else saw it the way we did. We live right near Pittsburgh!!! I have some beautiful shots that I have taken before, but we figured city scapes would be a dime a dozen so I didn't shoot the Burgh again and BLAM!!! City skylines are all over the top 10! Apparently there is no credit for originality either.

Now we are wrestling with the question, "Why are we doing this?" If it is to stretch my limits as a photographer then the votes don't really matter. If it is to be able to market my photography, then we'd better learn to play to audience.

My next shots should tell you what I decided! LOL

Thanks for the comments.
05/11/2005 06:42:18 PM · #7
the thin you need to remember is that forums are like a box of chocolates, each one is differant.

if you really want an understanding of your stuff, go to a couple other forums, submit your stuff again. if you get recurring (spelling) comments on your stuff, then maybe there is something to it.

You know what is good, trust you judgment. Trust your friends, family, hell ask the baby sitter.

Pictures are like poetry. You need to reread, and relook over and over until you know it looks just right. Making sure all the t's are crossed and I's are dotted.

if you just submit without the toil of redoing, and self judgment, then its just another pix.


05/11/2005 07:03:15 PM · #8
Originally posted by GeneralE:

You'll never get everybody to agree on something like that. There's probably a big crowd who'd vote down anything taken after midnight, because then it's morning.

I really took it to mean take a photo when it's truly dark, not in the dusky twilight.


That describes everything. If I had just called my sunrise picture "sunset" instead of sunrise then every thing would have been ok.

Well "tonight" I have sunset at 22:26 but sunrise will be "late" in the morning at 4:21

Anyway. In my dictionary the evening is before midnight and the night is more or less after midnight. When I wake up then it is morning. And in the wintertime then it is dark to 10 AM but after about one week will I have the last dark until late July. So it is different from one place to another and from one season to another.

05/11/2005 08:02:03 PM · #9
Originally posted by eyesightphoto:


Now we are wrestling with the question, "Why are we doing this?" If it is to stretch my limits as a photographer then the votes don't really matter. If it is to be able to market my photography, then we'd better learn to play to audience.


In looking at your profile, I feel your intent is to make art. It is part of every artist's inner struggle as to whether they be led by their art and starve until the masses catch up, or pander to the masses and co-opt their creativity to varying degrees. While one approach refines the character of the artist, the other fills the belly.

While I have always loved and practiced photography, being behind the digital curve led me to this and 2 other sites. Initially I jumped into the fray for my education. Having good success with that thanks to helpful site members, I found myself then looking to them for validation. Once that was achieved, I found myself seeking adulation. And THAT is the slippery slope of contest sites. Getting comments (preferrably positive) becomes a drug, the initial euphoria soon needs feeding with larger and more generous amounts. The online time CAN be productive if your aim is to learn or share. But, if it is to win .... you lose. I limit my time online now and spend much more time producing photographs that speak to me, EVEN IF, to me alone.

I put great value on a quote from a successful poet to a young aspiring writer who sent his work to the poet for critiquing:

Works of art are of an infinite solitude, and no means of approach is so useless as criticism. Only love can touch and hold them and be fair to them. Always trust yourself and your own feeling, as opposed to argumentations, discussions, or introductions of that sort; if it turns out that you are wrong, then the natural growth of your inner life will eventually guide you to other insights. Allow your judgments their own silent, undisturbed development, which, like all progress, must come from deep within and cannot be forced or hastened. Everything is gestation and then birthing. - Ranier Maria Rilke, 1903
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