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04/17/2003 04:13:32 PM · #1 |
There seems to be at least one american left who uses his brain...
Clinton Blasts US Foreign Policy
Agence France-Presse
Wednesday 16 April 2003
Former US president Bill Clinton today blasted US foreign policy adopted in the wake of the September 11 attacks, arguing the United States cannot kill, jail or occupy all of its adversaries.
"Our paradigm now seems to be: something terrible happened to us on September 11, and that gives us the right to interpret all future events in a way that everyone else in the world must agree with us," said Clinton, who spoke at a seminar of governance organised by Conference Board.
"And if they don't, they can go straight to hell."
The Democratic former president, who preceded George W Bush at the White House, said sooner or later the United States had to find a way to cooperate with the world at large.
"We can't run," Clinton pointed out. "If you got an interdependent world, and you cannot kill, jail or occupy all your adversaries, sooner or later you have to make a deal."
He said he believed Washington overreacted to German and French opposition to US plans for military action against Iraq and suggested that the current administration had trouble juggling foreign and domestic issues.
"Since September 11, it looks like we can't hold two guns at the same time," Clinton said. "If you fight terrorism, you can't make America a better place to be."
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04/17/2003 04:18:11 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by Damitriel:
There seems to be at least one american left who uses his brain... |
yeah, the monkey brain
Message edited by author 2003-04-17 16:20:09.
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04/17/2003 04:48:08 PM · #3 |
I miss him,good old days 1992-2000!
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04/17/2003 04:49:38 PM · #4 |
| Clinton was a good president, and he has good head on his shoulders. He makes a lot more sense then Bush. Whats up with the monkey brain comment when Bush is the one that resembles a monkey in more than one way? |
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04/17/2003 04:50:38 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by achiral:
Originally posted by Damitriel:
There seems to be at least one american left who uses his brain... |
yeah, the monkey brain |
I don't know too many Rhodes Scholars who are monkey brains... |
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04/17/2003 04:53:13 PM · #6 |
| Bush snorted coke, Clinton smoked pot. Based on the evidence which one would you rather follow? |
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04/17/2003 04:53:44 PM · #7 |
Since Clinton left we got:
1:terrorist atacks
2:Stock market crumble
3:Orange alerts/ducktape
4:3 million high paying jobs loss
5:Cold relations with half of the world......
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04/17/2003 04:57:58 PM · #8 |
add to that list
6. Decreased civil rights
7. Increased national debt
8. Increased suspicion for anyone carrying around a camera |
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04/17/2003 05:00:06 PM · #9 |
9:Bankrupt Airline Companies
10:Mass High Tech Layoffs
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04/17/2003 05:22:11 PM · #10 |
| pretzels, lots of pretzels |
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04/17/2003 05:27:16 PM · #11 |
11. Citizens with bad attitudes!
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04/17/2003 05:42:04 PM · #12 |
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04/17/2003 06:03:59 PM · #13 |
I believe that if we read the US Constitution very carefully, it says that no president can stay in office more than 2 consecutive terms...
Bring Bill Back in '04!!!
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04/17/2003 07:16:02 PM · #14 |
| all clinton had was charisma, that's how he survived...he didn't achieve much in his 8 years |
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04/17/2003 07:21:15 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by achiral:
all clinton had was charisma, that's how he survived...he didn't achieve much in his 8 years |
nothing much except he took a deficit and changed it to a surplus,
and oh yeah,
dont forget the rising stock prices
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04/17/2003 08:23:02 PM · #16 |
| oh an out of control economy, yeah that turned out great |
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04/17/2003 08:36:30 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by achiral:
oh an out of control economy, yeah that turned out great |
it turned out great? once Bush got a hold of it
and oh yeah
lets increase the national debt and reduce taxes |
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04/17/2003 09:16:15 PM · #18 |
| national debt isn't a bad thing, you want to raise taxes? that won't be possible when people are losing money all the time because of the economy. bush didn't get a hold of anything, the accusation that he is directly responsible is riddiculous |
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04/17/2003 11:24:52 PM · #19 |
National debt isn't a bad thing? Your being sarcastic, right?
And as per taxes, I don't think that lowering the taxes of the wealthiest Americans will have ANY benefit to the other 99% or the economy as a whole.
When will what happens start being President Bush's responsibility? It seems he has blamed everything that happens on President Clinton, which is odd since President Clinton has the respect of the world that President Bush has alienated, and President Clinton oversaw the largest economic expansion in history. I suppose President Clinton was responsible for the pretzel too? When will President Bush accept responsibility for his own actions instead of trying to blame his predecessor? Talk about lame...
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04/17/2003 11:34:43 PM · #20 |
4 weeks ago clinton supported the war
he just tries to be on the right side of every situation so as not to be left alone rejected a completely dominant and successful military campaign.
Originally posted by bill clinton:
A s Blair has said, in war there will be civilian was well as military casualties. There is, too, as both Britain and America agree, some risk of Saddam using or transferring his weapons to terrorists. There is as well the possibility that more angry young Muslims can be recruited to terrorism. But if we leave Iraq with chemical and biological weapons, after 12 years of defiance, there is a considerable risk that one day these weapons will fall into the wrong hands and put many more lives at risk than will be lost in overthrowing Saddam.
I wish that Russia and France had supported Blair's resolution. Then, Hans Blix and his inspectors would have been given more time and supprt for their work. But that's not where we are. Blair is in a position not of his own making, because Iraq and other nations were unwilling to follow the logic of 1441.
In the post-cold war world, America and Britain have been in tough positions before: in 1998, when others wanted to lift sanctions on Iraq and we said no; in 1999 when we went into Kosovo to stop ethnic cleansing. In each case, there were voices of dissent. But the British-American partnership and the progress of the world were preserved. Now in another difficult spot, Prime Minister Blair will have to do what he believes to be right. I trust him to do that and hope that Labor MPs and the British people will too. |
doesn't really sound like clinton was lashing out against war plans. clinton must have thought no one in america would realize this editorial. and c'mon, hillary endorsed the war and we all know who wears the pants in that family
Message edited by author 2003-04-17 23:36:19. |
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04/17/2003 11:37:30 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by achiral:
national debt isn't a bad thing, you want to raise taxes? |
Of course not, I want to raise my kid's taxes so he can pay off the debt plus interest...
Message edited by author 2003-04-17 23:37:59. |
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04/17/2003 11:38:58 PM · #22 |
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04/17/2003 11:45:10 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by achiral:
national debt isn't a bad thing, you want to raise taxes? |
Of course not, I want to raise my kid's taxes so he can pay off the debt plus interest... |
hehe, you finance debt with more debt...when surpluses return, you pay down debt some...but debt isnt a bad thing |
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04/17/2003 11:56:32 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by achiral:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by achiral:
national debt isn't a bad thing, you want to raise taxes? |
Of course not, I want to raise my kid's taxes so he can pay off the debt plus interest... |
hehe, you finance debt with more debt...when surpluses return, you pay down debt some...but debt isnt a bad thing |
When is the last time the Federal Governement ran a surplus during a Republican Administration? Just because most rich people are Republicans doesn't mean they know how to manage an economy, especially for the benefit of the vast majority of Americans who must make do with their wages rather than the proceeds of their portfolios...
Someone has to pay for all that stuff with taxes eventually, Republicans just seem to want it always to be someone else sometime in the future... |
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04/17/2003 11:58:02 PM · #25 |
i'm not saying that at all, how come when clinton was in office during all those "great years" no democrats did anything to pay down the debt?
also the talk about republicans screwing future generations over has been going on for decades...yet i think my taxes are fine right now, and even if there were tax increases right now it wouldn't be a huge issue because taxes have been lower since bush has been in office. the economy is much more resilient than you would think, by saying that we are screwing future generations over is pointless because that assumes there will be no change in the future, and doesn't take into account new technology and advancement and research and development. it also doesn't take into account things like 9/11 that will throw any estimates off from either side of the aisle in congress
Message edited by author 2003-04-18 00:01:50. |
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