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04/07/2003 01:11:23 AM · #1
Having gone through a bunch of the color submissions, I'm really surprised how many good photos have great but dull colors - meaning that in the post processing a little boost in the lighting and/or saturation would have made them so much better. I don't have photoshop so with breezebrowser and irfanview i'm pretty limited with what i can do (or at least i feel that way) but changing the light (gamma) and color (saturation) are two of the most important variables available for me to adjust - especially for the dpchallenge where all adjustments have to be made to the whole photo.

Did anyone else also see this in these photos?
04/07/2003 01:14:47 AM · #2
Agreed!! Lots of drab ones.
04/07/2003 01:30:45 AM · #3
I'm not sure I totally agree. I think we may be spoiled on post-processing. More often than not the photos I see are over-brightened, over-sharpened and over-saturated. I've found myself DEsaturizing my photos over time.

I knew we'd see a bunch of crayolas and flowers. My photo is one less colorful. But I agree, there are so many great photos in the challenge.
04/07/2003 02:25:15 AM · #4
Haven't looked at enough to know if they're great (some pretty good ones on the first page), but I will agree with one thing: there are so many! Almost 300 submissions. This is going to be a loooong voting process this week....

Message edited by author 2003-04-07 02:25:57.
04/07/2003 02:56:28 AM · #5
I agree
04/08/2003 07:00:27 PM · #6
I was having the same problem. There are some very good shots that I'm not voting as high as I would like because they are fairly dull and just don't pop out at me. I agree that many images today are oversaturated. But for this particular challenge I think that bright colors become important. That said, I did rate one black and white image highly because I feel it complied with the spirit of the challenge. :)
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04/08/2003 08:58:54 PM · #7
Originally posted by tomzinho:

Having gone through a bunch of the color submissions


Color? I thought this was a flower challenge! Or was it a colored pencil challenge?
04/08/2003 09:21:34 PM · #8
Just because the challenge states that Color should be the most important element of the picture does not mean the picture must be a color picture.
04/08/2003 11:36:45 PM · #9
I agree - lots of good shots this time around. Despite the many entries, I'm enjoying looking thru the colorful photos. These pics are brightening my dull week!
04/08/2003 11:46:49 PM · #10
Originally posted by lnede:

Just because the challenge states that Color should be the most important element of the picture does not mean the picture must be a color picture.


True, but good luck getting votes if you're not submitting a color picture..
04/09/2003 12:01:13 AM · #11
Originally posted by lnede:

Just because the challenge states that Color should be the most important element of the picture does not mean the picture must be a color picture.


The challenge IS color, how could a photo that is not color even meet the challenge? There has to be SOME color in the photo for it to meet the challenge. However, I did see one picture that was b&W that did meet the challenge only because it had a part of the picture that was color.

Why do the colors have to be "bright" or "colorful" to meet the challenge? Doesn't seem like they have to, drab colors are still colors, as long as they are the most important element of the picture.
The challenge is "Color" not "Colorful".

Message edited by author 2003-04-09 00:02:32.
04/09/2003 01:02:17 AM · #12
no one is saying that it has to look radioactive, but it seems that a lot of photos could have been helped with just a little more zip.

Example 1
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Example 2
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Just a little boost in saturation and make a subtle, but huge difference. I think we can agree that whether you think this should be done or not . . . a lot of people chose not to do it. I don't know if that was out of preference or lack of knowledge of how to do it, but I found myself wishing some fine but dull photos had just some more saturation to them.
04/09/2003 01:43:51 AM · #13
Gotta agree with you on that, some photos could be improved by a saturation boost. However, I don't think that photos should be overlooked just because they aren't blazing with bright colors, or even voted down for that reason.
04/09/2003 02:10:01 AM · #14
So may photos, so little time.

The vast majority of these photos are great. I don't think that the colours have to overly bright to, in my eyes, so score high. I have not been scoring based on the amount of color. Some could look better with more saturation or contrast, some look better with reduced color, it depends. I have even scored pictures with little or no color high, as long as the theam is there.

But, I'm not even half way through yet.
04/09/2003 04:06:44 AM · #15
Received quite a number of comments on my submission for "Color".
Due to the limitation on the size of the file (150kb), I was not
able to sharpen and apply auto-level at the same time without going
over the limit. The quality of the image is bound to suffer. Resizing also have the same negative impact on the quality of the image.

What should I do? Please advise, anyone. Thanx in advance.

Maybe DP Challenge should consider larger file sizes for submissions
and storage.
04/09/2003 04:39:28 AM · #16
Originally posted by limkinglok:

Received quite a number of comments on my submission for "Color".
Due to the limitation on the size of the file (150kb), I was not
able to sharpen and apply auto-level at the same time without going
over the limit. The quality of the image is bound to suffer. Resizing also have the same negative impact on the quality of the image.

What should I do? Please advise, anyone. Thanx in advance.

Maybe DP Challenge should consider larger file sizes for submissions
and storage.


Did you try compressing the file at export? I find that I get the best results if I do everything the way I want it in terms of contrast enhancements, sharpening, sizing, border etc. and then export it with an increasing amount of compression until I'm under the limit. Sometimes I have to go to 15-20% compression on an image if it's very detailed.
04/09/2003 05:49:50 AM · #17
Originally posted by bamaster:

I'm not sure I totally agree. I think we may be spoiled on post-processing.


I personnally think that the challenge is to produce a photo out our camera with the least amount of post-processing. This way you(I) can become a better photographer.

One key point I think in becomming a good photographer is to know your camera inside and out (feature) and there ablilities. I for one, am just starting in the photo world with no background behind me.
So, learning the basics such as shutter speed, iso, aperture,etc... will be key for me to learn and the limits my camera has.

Thats just my take.

Message edited by author 2003-04-09 05:51:08.
04/09/2003 08:04:04 AM · #18
Originally posted by briphoto:

[quote=lnede]Just because the challenge states that Color should be the most important element of the picture does not mean the picture must be a color picture.


(The challenge IS color, how could a photo that is not color even meet the challenge? There has to be SOME color in the photo for it to meet the challenge. However, I did see one picture that was b&W that did meet the challenge only because it had a part of the picture that was color.) BRIPHOTO

I disagree. This entire web page is about being creative and imaginative. That is what photography is all about. If one can cause the viewer to think about color and imagine what colors are being portrayed without actually using color it represents the highest form of imagination and creativity. LNEDE

Message edited by author 2003-04-09 08:07:45.
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