rebel XT spot meter - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

04/07/2005 01:09:15 PM · #1

wondering if the spot meter is selectable in any shooting mode in the upgraded digital rebel. to clarify - i know there is a work around to activate it on the 300d, but am looking to know if the metering modes are selectable with the different shooting modes. mainly i would like to be able to spot meter in 'manual' mode. on the 300d the meter is chosen by the mode you are in.

thatcloudthere

Canon EOS-1D

04/07/2005 01:10:30 PM · #2

Originally posted by soup:

on the 300d the meter is chosen by the mode you are in.

and that sucks...

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Pentax

04/07/2005 01:11:40 PM · #3

well you can trick it... but it does kind of suck../

Artyste

Sony Ericsson W810i

04/07/2005 01:13:45 PM · #4

according to DPReview, the XT doesn't have spot metering.

Oh.. hehe.. nevermind. Ignore this post.

Message edited by author 2005-04-07 13:14:06.

Tamron AF 18-250mm F/3.5-6.3 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Canon

04/07/2005 01:17:50 PM · #5

"The EOS 350D now allows you to select metering mode (although in certain shooting modes it will be locked)."

riot

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Helios 40-1 85mm f/1.5

04/07/2005 01:20:30 PM · #6

I've said it before and i'll say it again...

You get what you pay for.

aaronb532

Canon EOS-20D

04/07/2005 01:33:07 PM · #7

The way I understand it, niether camera has a true spot meter. Canon calles it a 'center-wieghted' meter which is about 9% coverage compared to a true spot meter of about 5% coverage.
However, on the new 350D you can pick the metering mode in the creative modes

Message edited by author 2005-04-07 13:34:08.

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

04/07/2005 01:50:40 PM · #8

Originally posted by riot:

You get what you pay for.

FWIW, I have a 300D now and access to a 20D at the office that I can use anytime I want. I'm very familiar with both cameras, yet I just ordered the 350D for myself. The differences between the 350D and 20D are very minor for my needs, and not worth the $400 price differential.

Brad

Olympus OM-D E-M1

04/07/2005 02:15:52 PM · #9

Guess I should be happy with ESP mode that reads from many different "cells" across the entire frame, 11% Center-weighted or 1.6-2% Spot Metering mode.

Anyone with a 10D, 20D or 350XT finding the need to have a camera with true spot metering and want to trade sraight across, send me an email at idbeafoolforfallingforit@insanity.com

ROFL

04/07/2005 02:18:38 PM · #10

You sure that's the address? My email bounced back as undeliverable. ;-)

mariomel

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

04/07/2005 02:23:44 PM · #11

Originally posted by aaronb532:

I believe the mode you are refering to is called "partial metering" not center-weighted metering.

Seems to me that not many of the EOS cameras have a true 'spot' meter.

e301

04/07/2005 02:29:01 PM · #12

It's true that the centre-weighted metering is a little inaccurate, if you're using it as a measurement device, that is. Given the seen selectable metering points (focus points), and the cleverness of the metering algorithm, and a bit of time spent with the camera, I've found it to be an entirely accurate guide, however. In situations with really high contrast across the frame, you just know it's going to over-expose the highlights, and go manual or just pull down the EV (which can easily be done with the camera to your eye.

Maybe a 'true' spot meter would be useful, but never having had one I wouldn't know.

E

bbower1956

Canon EOS Rebel T6s

04/07/2005 02:46:31 PM · #13

I bought the 20D right before the XT came out. After seeing the XT and holding it in my hands, I can say I made the right choice. For me is was a matter of spending the extra money and never thinking I made the wrong choice. The controls on the 20D are so easy to use. The self-timer issue in a previous thread on the XT really makes me glad I traded up. The only complaint about the 20D is the expensive remote. But you can get a clone on eBay for $20 that works just fine.

Spend the money if you can or wait until prices come down or save until you can afford it.

just my opinion...

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

04/07/2005 02:57:32 PM · #14

Originally posted by e301:

My old Sony F717 had one, the F828 has one, the 1D has one. I've used all of these and find it painful to live without one. The accuracy that can be achieved with a spot meter is a necessity, IMO, if you only have one shot at at a quickly changing or vanishing scenario with challenging light conditions, something which happens to me frequently. Spotting is quicker and much more intuitive to learn and apply than other means to get the exposure to fit the shot.

It it critical, IMO, when you want to expose contra naturam, as in rendering a potentially averaged exposure low- or high-key.

DSLRs without one limit the range of my photos and are the source of much frustration with the makers of such cameras.

04/07/2005 03:33:09 PM · #15

this is the answer i was looking for. anyone care to back it up?

Originally posted by aaronb532:

However, on the new 350D you can pick the metering mode in the creative modes

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

04/07/2005 03:47:15 PM · #16

Originally posted by soup:

Anyone care to back it up?

I thought I did in my first post. A few creative modes (like Sports) might force you to use a particular type of metering, but generally you can select whatever metering mode you want.

max90034

Canon EOS-D30

04/07/2005 04:10:57 PM · #17

Originally posted by soup:

I believe that with 300D you can activate "partial metering" anytime in all "creative modes" (including manual mode) just by pressing a button.

riot

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Helios 40-1 85mm f/1.5

04/07/2005 04:16:33 PM · #18

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by riot:
You get what you pay for.

FWIW, I have a 300D now and access to a 20D at the office that I can use anytime I want. I'm very familiar with both cameras, yet I just ordered the 350D for myself. The differences between the 350D and 20D are very minor for my needs, and not worth the $400 price differential.

I stand by what i said then...

04/07/2005 04:22:13 PM · #19

Soup, THIS should answer your question. The metering mode is manually selectable (it was automatic on the 300D). From Canon's press release: "Among the new features found on the EOS Digital Rebel XT camera are user selectable metering and AF modes, flash exposure compensation control, improved E-TTL II evaluative flash metering and for the first time in this product category, custom function control."

Message edited by author 2005-04-07 16:24:49.

04/07/2005 06:01:30 PM · #20

ugh - man the site is slooooooooooow.

thanks again. i plan on upgrading toward the end fo summer.

Originally posted by scalvert:

04/07/2005 06:17:08 PM · #21

I posted a deal in THIS thread for a 350D with lit lens in black or silver for $850 (body only is $764). The offer is only good until tomorrow morning, but it's a great deal. So great that I couldn't resist one for myself. ;-)