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09/09/2002 08:27:36 PM · #1
In the same vein (but along a slightly different path) as the Critique requests and the Art Appreciation posts (by JMSetzler and Lisae) I want to post a request that people look at this photo and analyse what they feel the photographer was trying to convey to them, or what is conveyed to them.

Stay away from critiquing the work, but only try to find what if anything the photographer is trying to tell the viewer, or what the photographer has conveyed to you.

To look and think about the picture and the subject; the compositional, color, exposure, development, etc. choices used to emphasize or demphasize certain qualities to convey something to the veiwer.

I may add my two cents later but I want other people to form their own opinion before I say anything.

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09/09/2002 08:52:10 PM · #2
mmmmmI see a private place totally exposed. mmmmm

try again; I see a small tight place designed for maximum efficiency and the illusion of comfort. (To be really comfortable it would IMO need to be big enough to bathe horizontally.)

The back wall is a puzzle because I don't understand why it looks like it does. (other than that the flash is straight on the center.)

Personally I don't find it too interesting not even as an abstract because of that bit of white (basin?) at the bottom. The absence of any kind of curtain disturbs me.

so maybe it's a subtle invitation to voyurism.

aelith
09/09/2002 08:56:56 PM · #3
They have revealed to me that this bathroom needs to be cleaned. (if they are serious about selling this place, they will.)
09/09/2002 09:17:41 PM · #4
It conveys the impression of institutional design to me.
09/09/2002 09:38:02 PM · #5
This conveys to me that the artist does not know much about photography, or is very bored.

I would rate this a 3.


* This message has been edited by the author on 9/9/2002 9:36:49 PM.
09/09/2002 11:19:09 PM · #6
That central composition makes me feel enclosed by this photo, like aelith. If you've ever had one of those times when you feel like your life is falling apart, and you go and have a shower and look around you at that tiny space and feel at once safe and warm and at the same time miserable, isolated, weak, vulnerable.... bathrooms have a huge psychological effect that we don't often think about. Really, they're symbolic of the stuff we hide away from other people, or lock away inside ourselves (at least in my opinion)... all our dirty little secrets and shame. That's what I get out of this :)
09/09/2002 11:27:24 PM · #7
Colors are very depressing .. for some reason it kindof conveys a 'jail' or 'asylum' connotation to me

oh .. and Zeiss ... maybe just comment when you will like something ... we kindof know that nothing is photography except your picture and that everything is 3.


09/09/2002 11:48:33 PM · #8
Originally posted by lionelm:
oh .. and Zeiss ... maybe just comment when you will like something ... we kindof know that nothing is photography except your picture and that everything is 3.




This is not at all true, I just do not like this particular photo. I am sorry you have such a bad impression of me. I guess I need to learn to communicate differently. I must say though that this is the worst of the photos I have seen submitted to critique. We were asked to critique the photo, and that is what I did.

If people like it, that is great. I however can find no meaning in it. Perhaps I am being shallow minded. But oh well, such is life.

If you look at my profile, I think you will see that my average vote is somewhat higher than a three.

I am not sure who this "we" is linoliem, but you all are incorrect.
09/09/2002 11:56:18 PM · #9
Actually you werent asked to critique it. Entirely too much critique already happens here.
09/10/2002 12:04:43 AM · #10
Home improvement. I think someone is thinking about getting a whole new bathroom. I hear that green is coming back.
09/10/2002 12:36:04 AM · #11
Ah Ha!. there is an optical illusion going on. The light wall is coming forward and is perfictly framed by the receeding dark walls and ceiling. It is an abstract design.

aelith
09/10/2002 12:48:05 AM · #12
In the same vein (but along a slightly different path) as the Critique requests and the Art Appreciation posts (by JMSetzler and Lisae) I want to post a request that people look at this photo and analyse what they feel the photographer was trying to convey to them, or what is conveyed to them.

I said what the photo conveyed to me.


* This message has been edited by the author on 9/10/2002 12:47:09 AM.
09/10/2002 01:11:31 AM · #13
Originally posted by jakking:
It conveys the impression of institutional design to me.

I agree with Jakking . It has an institutional feel to it. Nobody has mentioned the reflected pattern on the far wall, that gives the impression of bars, imprisonment, isolation, a cubicle of space.
09/10/2002 02:14:16 AM · #14
I think there's a glass door across the near end of the shower.
The lighted end wall suggests a modified gothic arch shape; it's not too hard to see the stepped end of the tub continuing up and out a lit passageway into the tower room...
09/10/2002 06:21:38 AM · #15
That's what I meant about not understanding what was going on with that wall. It's the side walls reflected on to the back (notice how the grout lines up. The cielling looks rounded like the corbled end of a dormer nitch.

Yes, if it's institutional then that would expain the lack of a curtain.
09/10/2002 06:33:31 AM · #16
I have looked at this image several times now. I have no idea what the photographer is trying to tell the viewer. Maybe that I need to wash? Maybe this is a new age baptism :)


09/10/2002 07:48:26 AM · #17
Is there a right answer? Could the photographer be trying to evoke those ancienr elaborates baths, Like in Rome, or Bath. And the opulent pools of the twenties like at the Heasrt mansion, on in that dorm ar Harvard where wer swam nude that were inside the house but in the cellar and always had those arches windows, and archways if there were no windows? Is the comparison that this ugle green bathroom is all we can afford. Sort of a poor man's version of decadent luxury?

If so, he should give it a good scrub.

PS. We are critiguing photos, not sentence structure, right?
09/10/2002 08:03:39 AM · #18
I have 2 separate thoughts on this:
1) That this shower stall, although not the most kempt part of the house, is a place of solace for this person. The back wall being brighter than the sides makes it look sort of like a non-transparent church window shape. Its the place to get 10 or 15 minutes of "forget-about-the-world" time.

2) Its an advertisement for Tilex
09/10/2002 08:58:20 AM · #19
This is definitely not a good example of interior real estate photography.
It feels very prison/institutional to me, I have absolutely no idea what message the photographer wanted to convey, and I can find nothing about this photo that would make me want to view it on a regular basis.
09/10/2002 10:52:33 AM · #20
first thing that struck me was the illusion the reflections create on the rear wall...2nd thing was that i'd like to have a seat like that in my shower!
09/10/2002 11:06:10 AM · #21
It feels like one of those snapshots you take as you tour through a closed down asylum or prison (attica).

With the flash lighting, the mildew on the walls suggesting age and direpair and the seating area for holding down unruly shower participants.

I can hear the other tour people now "Mom, do they have any rides here?" or "Jesus, this looks as bad as my bathroom at home!"
09/10/2002 11:10:57 AM · #22
This shower setup looks A LOT like the shower at my aunt and uncle's beach house on the Jersey Shore.

So it's kind of making me want to take a vacation.


* This message has been edited by the author on 9/10/2002 11:09:48 AM.
09/10/2002 02:06:35 PM · #23
to me this is just an example of bad photography. all i can think is that this person wanted to document the bath/shower area because of wanting to redesign it possibly. the shot is straight on with a flash. there is nothing dramatic or interesting about the photography.

all the comments being made about what the photographer is trying to convey is all based on the object of the photo and not the photo or they way the photo was taken. I could walk in my bathroom right now and give the same comments that i am hearing about this photo.

commenting on this as art seems like a stretch. too much speculation going on here. this is more a discussion of bathroom design than photography.

to me if photography is art it should at least be technically a good photograph. i can give some leeway in that area if the statement it is making is strong and thought provoking. this photo is nothing special to me but hey art is all in the eye of the beholder.
09/10/2002 03:24:33 PM · #24
Perhaps it was the "before" picture of a total bathroom remodel.

To me this picture conveys an ambitious but failed snapshot.What I think the photographer tried to convey was the sense of claustrophobia. It is accentuated by the reflection of the arched window on the back wall. That window apparently has a gate on it and so does not leave the impression of freedom but more confinement. I find the top light and bar annoying but suppose the photographer kept them in to represent "torture" or underscore the sense of confinement. Clueless what the bright white basin in the lower right is doing other than cluttering up the image some more. All this is stretching the appraisal to the hilt and only offered here because I suspected some aesthetic reason for having posted this shot in the first place.

The impression this picture conveyed to me was one of renewed pride in the tiling job I did myself in my own bathroom. So, thanks!
09/10/2002 03:40:54 PM · #25
I just can't see it myself... does nothing for me. likely would agree with a 3.
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