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09/09/2002 05:24:13 AM · #1
Last night:

So there I was, all sleepy and exhausted after countless attempts to get the photo right at 2am, getting ready to enter the F&V challenge. Problem - image was not 640 x 480 after cropping. No problem - used Adobe Photoshop Elements, selected image size then canvas size and entered the desired number of pixels.

Today:

Entry for F&V disqualified - reason: NO BORDERS OR PADDING. What have I done wrong? Help! PLEASE!

Cheers,

Razwan

(p.s. Rules are rules, no problem with that... Just want to avoid this situation again!)
09/09/2002 06:11:09 AM · #2
Originally posted by razwan:
Last night:

selected image size then canvas size and entered the desired number of pixels.

Today:

Entry for F&V disqualified - reason: NO BORDERS OR PADDING. What have I done wrong? Help! PLEASE!

Cheers,

Razwan

(p.s. Rules are rules, no problem with that... Just want to avoid this situation again!)


I believe your mistake was in selecting canvas size. that is what created the border. You only needed to change the image size.
aelith
09/09/2002 07:30:14 AM · #3
Originally posted by razwan:
Last night:

So there I was, all sleepy and exhausted after countless attempts to get the photo right at 2am, getting ready to enter the F&V challenge. Problem - image was not 640 x 480 after cropping. No problem - used Adobe Photoshop Elements, selected image size then canvas size and entered the desired number of pixels.

Today:

Entry for F&V disqualified - reason: NO BORDERS OR PADDING. What have I done wrong? Help! PLEASE!

Cheers,

Razwan

(p.s. Rules are rules, no problem with that... Just want to avoid this situation again!)


The problem is that your image must be 640x480 or 640x427 pixels. You cannot add a border or white space to meet these sizes; the image itself must be that size.

-Terry
09/09/2002 10:13:47 AM · #4
I believe your mistake was in selecting canvas size. that is what created the border. You only needed to change the image size.
aelith


Yep -- that's exactly right. Canvas size doesn't change the size of the image you're working with -- it creates a larger "drawing area." So the result is that whatever your background color was at the time has become the color of your "canvas," and since it is now bigger than the image you were working with originally, it has taken on the appearance of a "border." It's an unfortunate and honest mistake :(
09/09/2002 10:38:11 AM · #5
Thanks for the replies!

I tried changing the image size but the height & width could not be changed indepedently of one another. So, after entering 480 pixels for the width, the height was automatically re-adjusting to 527 pixels, no matter what I tried. Is there a way around this?

Cheers,

Razwan
09/09/2002 10:44:17 AM · #6
I will write a tutorial on this... I have threatened to do that for a long time. I will write instructions for doing it with Adobe software. If you do not have Adobe Photoshop, or one of its subordinates, you will need to translate to whatever software is being used.

I don't know if i will have it completed by the end of the week or not...
09/09/2002 10:45:09 AM · #7
raz, i usually use a combination of cropping and resizing. i crop the side where i'm constrained (or want to crop something out) and then resize the photo so that that side is the appropriate length (640, 480, or 427). this then resizes the other side proportionally. let's say, i resized my cropped side to 640, and the other side got resized to 500. i now crop to 640x480 or 640x427. if i'm off by a pixel or two, i resize w/out keeping the proportions (that small an amount of distortion is usually not visible).

i hope this makes sense and helps. good luck with your next challenge entry!
09/09/2002 10:51:02 AM · #8
Essentially, what you have to do is oversize when you resize the image, to the point that ONE of the edges is exactly the right size and the other is LARGER than required. Then bring out your crop tool at exactly the prescribed image size, and move it around until you are happy with what is going to be left of your image, then snip it.

Essentially, that's the only way you'll be able to get it into the right aspect. You COULD have resized each axis indepentently, by unchecking the "constrain image proportions" box in the resize dialog, but I'm sure you wouldn't have been happy with the apparent squashing/stretching.

Best,

Mark
09/09/2002 11:12:25 AM · #9
Thanks a lot for the help! I will try out the tips and also look forward to the tutorial.

Just out of interest, I noticed that some photos in the CANDID challenge (e.g. no. 73, 75, 80, 95 etc.) seem smaller than the other entries. I hope I am correct in stating that these images are not the required size for entries. Is this another way of getting around the re-sizing drama, or am I mistaken?

Cheers,

Razwan
09/09/2002 11:34:56 AM · #10
Originally posted by razwan:
Thanks a lot for the help! I will try out the tips and also look forward to the tutorial.

Just out of interest, I noticed that some photos in the CANDID challenge (e.g. no. 73, 75, 80, 95 etc.) seem smaller than the other entries. I hope I am correct in stating that these images are not the required size for entries. Is this another way of getting around the re-sizing drama, or am I mistaken?

Cheers,

Razwan


Hi there. Those photos are the right size, but with the vertical crop, they may just seem smaller. One way of telling this is to goto the large version of the photo and RIGHT mouse click on the photo after it is done loading. Then from that menu, you can select properties. The file size and the photo size are both in the properties section there.
~Heather~
09/09/2002 03:10:15 PM · #11
In Photoshop you can set the rectangular marque to select ina "Constained Aspect Ratio". If you know what size you shot the image you can figure out what percent or ratio to put in the x and y direction. ie. my G1 shoots at 2048x1536 so then all I have to do is select a portion (2048/1536=.75) of my image with ratios w:1 h:.75. Or for a vertical crop, h:1 w:.75 (Remeber some cameras shoots at different ratios, so do a quick check)

You'll then see when you resize the IMAGE SIZE to 640 px the other number will snap to 480

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Actually you don't need to know what you camera shoots, the challenge wants 640x480 therfore
480/640=.75 it just happens that my camera had the same ratio.

Hope that helps

* This message has been edited by the author on 9/10/2002 11:07:10 AM.
09/09/2002 03:28:42 PM · #12
Originally posted by razwan:
Just out of interest, I noticed that some photos in the CANDID challenge (e.g. no. 73, 75, 80, 95 etc.) seem smaller than the other entries. I hope I am correct in stating that these images are not the required size for entries.

I haven't looked at those photos, but there are two valid sizes - 640 x 480 and 640 x 427.
09/09/2002 03:33:19 PM · #13
I know my thumbnail looked smaller. I do not know why this occurred.
09/09/2002 04:11:44 PM · #14
The EXACT thing happened to me once...for the corporate challenge. Dunno what I did...I sure didn't mean to put a border on. What I THINK happened is while cropping to fit, I actually went a bit beyond the image, so the canvas was created behind it somehow. I never questioned it, just figured c'est la vie, and let it go. But I'm glad you asked.

Originally posted by razwan:
Last night:

So there I was, all sleepy and exhausted after countless attempts to get the photo right at 2am, getting ready to enter the F&V challenge. Problem - image was not 640 x 480 after cropping. No problem - used Adobe Photoshop Elements, selected image size then canvas size and entered the desired number of pixels.

Today:

Entry for F&V disqualified - reason: NO BORDERS OR PADDING. What have I done wrong? Help! PLEASE!

Cheers,

Razwan

(p.s. Rules are rules, no problem with that... Just want to avoid this situation again!)



09/09/2002 04:15:59 PM · #15
Originally posted by Gracious:
The EXACT thing happened to me once...for the corporate challenge. Dunno what I did...I sure didn't mean to put a border on. What I THINK happened is while cropping to fit, I actually went a bit beyond the image, so the canvas was created behind it somehow. I never questioned it, just figured c'est la vie, and let it go. But I'm glad you asked.

This happened to me on an earlier challenge as well. If you drag the cropping marquee beyond the edge of the image it will create blank canvas filled with the background color. Mine was only one or two pixels over, so I didn't even see it...
09/10/2002 10:06:23 AM · #16
I accept that the photos mentioned are the correct size. Thanks for the tips everyone!

Cheers,

Razwan
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