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03/24/2005 11:15:07 PM · #1
3 new shots from tonight.


Another attempt at shadows





Thanks for comments/critiques,

Kev
03/24/2005 11:44:33 PM · #2
I still think you need more close-ups of her eyes. Excellent work
03/24/2005 11:55:46 PM · #3
I really like the lighting in the first image, but I think the tones are pretty flat. You could have boosted them much more in post processing. Hope you don't mind, but I tried it and came up with this:



Dave
03/24/2005 11:59:07 PM · #4
David,

I don't mind at all but when I look at your version its way into magenta. Its past red. Did you mean to get that much magenta in her face (maybe I'm just seeing it wrong)?

Kev
03/25/2005 12:02:45 AM · #5
I'm color blind, so ignore the color mistakes and look more at the black and white tones. :)

I noticed some wierd banding in the background of your original shot too. There were stripes in the background that I saw when I picked the black values.

Dave
03/25/2005 12:34:42 AM · #6

How do you like this
03/25/2005 12:37:15 AM · #7
One heck of a model Ashley is...eyes and smile are killer.

Great shots...

I keep going back to the second one here, I don't know if it is the pose or the crop but it seems to force the idea that she is either very short (which isn't a bad thing) or it's like she is ducking to get inside the crop. I can't quite put my finger on it something different about the proportions of this beauty. It could just be the black background??? Maybe a tighter crop on the sides???

Andy

Message edited by author 2005-03-25 00:38:39.
03/25/2005 01:22:25 AM · #8
Thought I would try my hand at it, since I thought it might look good in black and white.
03/25/2005 02:02:18 AM · #9
Thought I would put my own spin on it. What do you think of this?


03/25/2005 05:53:20 AM · #10
Originally posted by Spurs:

Thought I would try my hand at it, since I thought it might look good in black and white.


Fantastic treatment of that shot. What steps did you take to produce this treatment?

Thanks,

Kev
03/25/2005 05:54:32 AM · #11
Originally posted by magicshutter:

Thought I would put my own spin on it. What do you think of this?



Joe,

That one still looks a little too reddish-magenta to me but it looks closer.

Kev
03/25/2005 08:47:51 AM · #12
Kevin, as always - terrific photos! I noticed the comment about the 2nd photo and I would have to agree. I couldn't decide what was bugging me about the image until I read that.

For the 1st shot - I really like it a lot and the b/w treatment that Spurs used is fantastic - that's probably my favorite. I understand wanting to bring out the tones a little more, but I think in some of them that we've seen it almost draws a line between the light and dark parts of the photo rather than having it fade. Not sure how much sense that makes and there is probably a more technical way of describing it.

In the 3rd photo she looks so much like Cameron Diaz.

Great work!
03/25/2005 08:56:37 AM · #13

Here's my try at color correcting. It's still got a little more green than I'd like but didn't want to start pushing the colors around a lot.
03/25/2005 09:04:55 AM · #14
Are you using a color gel on the first shot Kevin?

The one thing that I notice on a lot of the shots with the black background is the skin color. A lot of them seem to have a greyish tint that looks very unnatural to me. Is it possible you are getting the grey cast from the light reflecting off the plexiglass on the floor?
03/25/2005 09:06:20 AM · #15
Originally posted by pcody:


Here's my try at color correcting. It's still got a little more green than I'd like but didn't want to start pushing the colors around a lot.


I think this looks much better, IMHO.
03/25/2005 09:07:51 AM · #16
pcody's and the b/w version work best imo.
03/25/2005 09:34:53 AM · #17
Originally posted by cbeller:

Are you using a color gel on the first shot Kevin?

The one thing that I notice on a lot of the shots with the black background is the skin color. A lot of them seem to have a greyish tint that looks very unnatural to me. Is it possible you are getting the grey cast from the light reflecting off the plexiglass on the floor?


I'll be doggone. Now that's something to take a look at. Hmmm. Thanks for the idea.

Kev
03/25/2005 09:41:10 AM · #18
Probably too late but here's a slightly different crop and idea. Sorry for the size but I only had 640 pixels to work with.



Lee
03/25/2005 09:44:24 AM · #19
Hello everyone, I am new to this site. I just thought that I would try to help with color correcting this wonderful shot. I downloaded it to try but deleted it right away so as not to hurt anyone.
Anyway, in hue/saturation. Go to the Magentas and move the hue towards the yellow. In Yellow, again move the hue towards the yellow and lighten it a bit. You will get the contrast that looks so appealing without the red cast to the skin.
Please, this is only a suggestion. I have been working in color management at a print press for 2 years and before that for a photographer. I don't want to step on any toes as the newbie, just had to put in a suggestion.
I also want to say that I have been lurking about on this site for quite some time now, in awe of the wonderful talent that you all have.
Jewelie
03/25/2005 11:08:58 AM · #20
Originally posted by jeweliek:

Hello everyone, I am new to this site. I just thought that I would try to help with color correcting this wonderful shot. I downloaded it to try but deleted it right away so as not to hurt anyone.
Anyway, in hue/saturation. Go to the Magentas and move the hue towards the yellow. In Yellow, again move the hue towards the yellow and lighten it a bit. You will get the contrast that looks so appealing without the red cast to the skin.
Please, this is only a suggestion. I have been working in color management at a print press for 2 years and before that for a photographer. I don't want to step on any toes as the newbie, just had to put in a suggestion.
I also want to say that I have been lurking about on this site for quite some time now, in awe of the wonderful talent that you all have.
Jewelie


Dunn worry, you aren't stepping on any toes. The picture was posted so that it could be critiqued (sp?) I am very sure your comments are welcomed by everyone here. I am glad that you decided to join our forums, I think it is one of the best online. I am looking forward to seeing some of your work in the future.
-Ryan-
03/25/2005 11:29:21 AM · #21
Originally posted by awpollard:

One heck of a model Ashley is...eyes and smile are killer.

Great shots...

I keep going back to the second one here, I don't know if it is the pose or the crop but it seems to force the idea that she is either very short (which isn't a bad thing) or it's like she is ducking to get inside the crop. I can't quite put my finger on it something different about the proportions of this beauty. It could just be the black background??? Maybe a tighter crop on the sides???

Andy


It seems to me that everytime Kevin posts pictures of Ashley I am left thinking "Dang, she's short with cunky legs!" So it's not just Pollard's impression. I don't know if she IS swcl, or if something in the shooting is making it appear so, but that's something that maybe ought to be worked on either way...

In general Kevin has nice lighting, but the backgrounds are always completely without life, and this bothers me somewhat.

Still, this is nice work overall.

Robt.


03/25/2005 11:44:13 AM · #22
First one seems to be QUITE a bit underexposed, and too blue in white balance. The second is lacking in lighting, and the pose looks uncomfortable. The shoes in particular, they seem to tall. The way her left knee looks is a bit distracting also, not to mention that her legs seem too short. Wide-angle effect, there?
The third one is best out of the three, but her head and right foot look noticeably big.

Excellent model, but lighting could be improved, and using a longer focal length would make a big difference. 50 or 80mm would do quite nicely.

I hope my honesty doesn't make me sound mean or anything, excellent work, Kevin, I look forward to seeing more!
03/25/2005 01:13:42 PM · #23
Originally posted by jeweliek:

Hello everyone, I am new to this site. I just thought that I would try to help with color correcting this wonderful shot. I downloaded it to try but deleted it right away so as not to hurt anyone.
Anyway, in hue/saturation. Go to the Magentas and move the hue towards the yellow. In Yellow, again move the hue towards the yellow and lighten it a bit. You will get the contrast that looks so appealing without the red cast to the skin.
Please, this is only a suggestion. I have been working in color management at a print press for 2 years and before that for a photographer. I don't want to step on any toes as the newbie, just had to put in a suggestion.
I also want to say that I have been lurking about on this site for quite some time now, in awe of the wonderful talent that you all have.
Jewelie


Yeah, I'm glad to get comments.

Thanks for joining in

Kev
03/25/2005 01:17:55 PM · #24
Originally posted by bear_music:

I don't know if she IS swcl, or if something in the shooting is making it appear so, but that's something that maybe ought to be worked on either way...


She is short . . . er/ish. About 5' or maybe 5'2.

Originally posted by bear_music:

the backgrounds are always completely without life


Gimme an idea on this one. Does it just need some kind of props or different lighting? What would create the feeling of "life"? When I read that I think of "pop" or contrast. Is that what you're referring to?

Kev
03/25/2005 01:27:27 PM · #25
Originally posted by Plexxoid:

The second is lacking in lighting,

OK. What is the lacking? I've got shadows and the lighting is at different levels to try and create some tones. I'm not complaining; I'm just asking what in particular so I can consider what to work on. The phrase "lacking" is just too vague for me to even understand where to spend some time.

Originally posted by Plexxoid:

lighting could be improved

Again, I'm cool with that opinion but I would like to know what or how. You don't have to go into explanation but let me know if you think the image would be better served with a different ratio or some particular style. Anything to give me some idea what could be better or how.

Originally posted by Plexxoid:

I hope my honesty doesn't make me sound mean or anything, excellent work, Kevin, I look forward to seeing more!

It doesn't sound mean, I would just like a little more direction towards what the problems are so I can see what I might work on.

I appreciate your honest opinion I just don't know that I have enough information to understand how you formed it.

Thanks,

Kev
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