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03/04/2005 11:10:01 AM · #51 |
i've been out of kindergarden for a long time and white is white, whether it's different shades it doesnt matter its still white..so if the subject wasn't in front of something white than why should we vote the photo high? when it says a WHITE background
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03/04/2005 11:17:27 AM · #52 |
| There seems to be some controversy in this contest as to specifically what the site wanted for a pic. The way I interpreted it was to challenge us to clearly define a light colored object on against a white object behing mindful of course about overexposing the highlights so detail against a white background are not lost. I've recieved more than one comment indicating many others are interpreting things much more stictly and are looking for an all white background with only light objects and no dark at all. I suppose the only way to really know is to ask the authors of the criteria to be a little more specific next time. Having said that there are some great pics in this contest completely independent of how strictly you you intepret the requirments. Even several of the pics that really played on the words and were humorous. It just goes to show how creative we can be. To that I say Democracy is a wonderful double edged sword. Keep up the good work all and thank you for all the helpful comments I have received. This was my first entry and I have learned so much already. |
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03/04/2005 11:27:50 AM · #53 |
Originally posted by netdude:
... I suppose the only way to really know is to ask the authors of the criteria to be a little more specific next time. ... |
But why ruin all the fun!? Words and sentences can obviously be interpreted as many ways as a color definition...
I love DPC! Where else can I be kept smiling all day?
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03/04/2005 10:07:47 PM · #54 |
Dood you need to calm down. I am all for white being in the challenge. My shot is white on white. I am getting comments about it being in b&w when it is not. You can do this. The argument was that white is not a color, and it isn't. How many printers are you using with white ink? White is the absence of color, so how could it be a color?
Originally posted by ralphnev:
Originally posted by G4Ds:
But pure white is not a color but a reflection of all colors. |
what temperature of white ? 6500K ? nice blue sky ? 2700K nice ruddy 60watt bulb ?
what is the reflecting surface ? white sheet (complete with optical brighteners )
or Chrome / mirror which shows off your K of light source ? paper ? linen 20lb kind of yellowish /?
how about envronment ? / your calibrated monitor ? the poor white balence on the camera ? (grey world mech. or white patch ? auto manual or tweeked ?? )
your receptors of white are not my receptors -
my eyes see my vision/version of the world
i vote highly for nice pictures ;) pictures that strike me as different ,good concept that had a bit of effort and/or thought put in . within a vauge set of rules that more or less correspond to the 'challenge'
I vote low for the opposite -- not all egg/flower/dog/lightbulb pictures are good
but some are ;) |
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03/04/2005 10:19:22 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by G4Ds:
Dood you need to calm down. I am all for white being in the challenge. My shot is white on white. I am getting comments about it being in b&w when it is not. You can do this. The argument was that white is not a color, and it isn't. How many printers are you using with white ink? White is the absence of color, so how could it be a color? |
White is *either* the absence or combination of all colors, if you think about it...
On your display (emitted light), white is achieved through the combination of full Red Green and Blue, therefore it is a combination of "all" colors. In printed material (reflected light), it's based entirely on the LACK of ink on a white base (paper)... or white ink on a dark base... (a double or triple hit often being required due to the low opacity of most white inks).
It's not entirely clear and arguing about white being the presence or absence of color is arguing a technicality that goes against the intent (as I see it) of the challenge description, which implicitly states "color".
Whatever.
Like I said before, this kind of challenge will yield completely unexpected results, as most voters probably don't even care that much for the "details" of the description and sure as hell don't read these threads :) |
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03/04/2005 10:23:32 PM · #56 |
[quote=G4Ds] White is the absence of color, so how could it be a color?
[quote=G4Ds]
Sort of but not in photography of when looking at a monitor. With pigment and a white paper ( as in printeing) white is a negative. In photography try shooting with the lens cap in. Dark isnt it? White is the presence of all wavelenghts, all the colors. When you unplug your monitor does it go bright white? Mine goes black.
Theory goes all pigments equal black, all lights equal white. picky I know but I'm feeling pendantic tonight. |
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03/04/2005 10:52:38 PM · #57 |
quite calm -
my shot is white on white as well. i tried to match b&w as close as possbile in rgb space without desaturating -
indeed printers do not have white ink - they presume that you are printing on white paper & attempt to use that to their advantage
they(most) also use cmyk space which is subtractive as opposed to RGB
which is additive / one reflects other is transmissive.
so which space ?
in rgb white is all colors added together
- so how can it NOT be a color ? 1+1+1=0 ?
of course, i'm just arguing for the sake of arguing - in my mind a 'light color' means white grey and most other combninations of color ..
hmmm ... back to working on sureal ...
Originally posted by G4Ds:
Dood you need to calm down. I am all for white being in the challenge. My shot is white on white. I am getting comments about it being in b&w when it is not. You can do this. The argument was that white is not a color, and it isn't. How many printers are you using with white ink? White is the absence of color, so how could it be a color?
Originally posted by ralphnev:
Originally posted by G4Ds:
But pure white is not a color but a reflection of all colors. |
what temperature of white ? 6500K ? nice blue sky ? 2700K nice ruddy 60watt bulb ?
what is the reflecting surface ? white sheet (complete with optical brighteners )
or Chrome / mirror which shows off your K of light source ? paper ? linen 20lb kind of yellowish /?
how about envronment ? / your calibrated monitor ? the poor white balence on the camera ? (grey world mech. or white patch ? auto manual or tweeked ?? )
your receptors of white are not my receptors -
my eyes see my vision/version of the world
i vote highly for nice pictures ;) pictures that strike me as different ,good concept that had a bit of effort and/or thought put in . within a vauge set of rules that more or less correspond to the 'challenge'
I vote low for the opposite -- not all egg/flower/dog/lightbulb pictures are good
but some are ;) |
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03/04/2005 10:57:33 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by ChasSourek:
Im sure white is light.
Doesnt say ANYTHING about a color. |
I think you might have actually mis-read the challenge. It very clearly states:
"Take a photo in which the background is white and the subject is predominately a "light" color. Be mindful of over-exposing your highlights!"
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03/04/2005 11:24:40 PM · #59 |
| High Key Black and white is an accepted art form. Well it was when I started photography, and the basics dont change. |
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03/05/2005 12:03:04 AM · #60 |
When you take a picture, light enters the lens and makes a chemical reaction with the film or, for this site, it is measured with a digital sensor. Since light is the only thing that makes a picture, then "Light on White" basicly means "anything with a white background."
Also, why is everyone making such a big deal about this? I'm just in this for the fun of it. Go ahead and give my picture a 1. That's just your opinion. Someone may look at picture and think it is the best picture in the world, while another may think it's the worst.
It would be pretty funny if the person who make this challenge intended to make it vague and is reading all this and laughing their head off. |
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03/05/2005 10:00:42 AM · #61 |
Yes I am arguing just to argue as well. I was just trying to get some debate going on the matter to see what others thought. It is so much fun to see and debate something as simple as white. I appreciate all of those who have commented on my silly ramblings. It is amazing the way people can get so passionate about something as simple as white. =)
Originally posted by ralphnev:
quite calm -
my shot is white on white as well. i tried to match b&w as close as possbile in rgb space without desaturating -
indeed printers do not have white ink - they presume that you are printing on white paper & attempt to use that to their advantage
they(most) also use cmyk space which is subtractive as opposed to RGB
which is additive / one reflects other is transmissive.
so which space ?
in rgb white is all colors added together
- so how can it NOT be a color ? 1+1+1=0 ?
of course, i'm just arguing for the sake of arguing - in my mind a 'light color' means white grey and most other combninations of color ..
hmmm ... back to working on sureal ...
Originally posted by G4Ds:
Dood you need to calm down. I am all for white being in the challenge. My shot is white on white. I am getting comments about it being in b&w when it is not. You can do this. The argument was that white is not a color, and it isn't. How many printers are you using with white ink? White is the absence of color, so how could it be a color?
Originally posted by ralphnev:
Originally posted by G4Ds:
But pure white is not a color but a reflection of all colors. |
what temperature of white ? 6500K ? nice blue sky ? 2700K nice ruddy 60watt bulb ?
what is the reflecting surface ? white sheet (complete with optical brighteners )
or Chrome / mirror which shows off your K of light source ? paper ? linen 20lb kind of yellowish /?
how about envronment ? / your calibrated monitor ? the poor white balence on the camera ? (grey world mech. or white patch ? auto manual or tweeked ?? )
your receptors of white are not my receptors -
my eyes see my vision/version of the world
i vote highly for nice pictures ;) pictures that strike me as different ,good concept that had a bit of effort and/or thought put in . within a vauge set of rules that more or less correspond to the 'challenge'
I vote low for the opposite -- not all egg/flower/dog/lightbulb pictures are good
but some are ;) |
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