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03/02/2005 05:47:46 PM · #1
This is a thought that I had recently. For modem users, or those that would like to use their commute time for DPC voting, would it be practical to have an offline voting package that you could download (zipped or something) and just tallies up all your votes, and allows them to be resubmitted once back online?

Something that would open in the browser, and simply compiles results into a text file. Then the submit button could POST the data back to the DPC servers from the text file.

This would certainly make it easier to vote on the 400-500 submission challenges!

Thoughts?
03/02/2005 05:53:29 PM · #2
how large would a 500 image zip file be - would that be convenient to download on a modem?


03/02/2005 05:57:59 PM · #3
Wow! Wouldn't that be the greatest! I hate voting with dial-up. I will unsubmit my entry if there are more than 200 submissions. It takes too many hours to vote on all of them.
03/02/2005 05:59:44 PM · #4
Depending on how long you look at the image before voting I'm not sure you'd save that much time? surely if you use 2 windows you could be downloading one image whilst viewing/voting on the previous one?
03/02/2005 06:02:23 PM · #5
100 photos would equal 10-15MB, 400 photos could be 60MB. How many dialup users have a stable enough to do that, even as an overnight download?
03/02/2005 06:04:04 PM · #6
Originally posted by soup:

how large would a 500 image zip file be - would that be convenient to download on a modem?


Given the average size of 70kb an image 500 image zip would be 35mb

I would love an offline voting system as well but understand the complexities of doing such a thing!
03/02/2005 06:09:25 PM · #7
I think those estimates are low -- I think the average image size is at least 100kb -- and most people try to get as close to 150kb as they can.

Since they are JPEG files, the ZIP process will compile them into a single file, but will not significantly compress them further.
03/02/2005 06:14:44 PM · #8
Imagine the server load at 11:55 when everybody tries to upload their votes : )
03/02/2005 06:17:03 PM · #9
Originally posted by GeneralE:

I think those estimates are low -- I think the average image size is at least 100kb -- and most people try to get as close to 150kb as they can.

Since they are JPEG files, the ZIP process will compile them into a single file, but will not significantly compress them further.


Exactly. JPEGs don't get compressed much in a zip file anyway. To download a 60 "+" MB file would take you hours on dialup and that would be if the connection didn't fail. Man do I love my cable modem. The best idea is what Andi(ECC Signum) had. If you are on a modem then run two or maybe three windows.
03/02/2005 06:20:36 PM · #10
The biggest issue I see here is image theft, which does happen once in a while.

I understand that any photo posted on the web can be downloaded, but my personal opinion is that giving a potential image thief the ability to grab 200-500 images in one convenient package probably outweighs any potential benefit of such a package.

-Terry
03/02/2005 07:03:29 PM · #11
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

The biggest issue I see here is image theft, which does happen once in a while.

I understand that any photo posted on the web can be downloaded, but my personal opinion is that giving a potential image thief the ability to grab 200-500 images in one convenient package probably outweighs any potential benefit of such a package.

-Terry


Good point
03/02/2005 08:00:40 PM · #12
i guess it could be considered a bad idea ;}


03/02/2005 08:31:45 PM · #13
Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Depending on how long you look at the image before voting I'm not sure you'd save that much time? surely if you use 2 windows you could be downloading one image whilst viewing/voting on the previous one?


That has caused me problems in the past. I tried the 2 windows approach and found images I had already voted on in one window, some I had even commented on, would then appear again as if they had never been voted on in the second.

I gave up that idea.
03/02/2005 08:33:54 PM · #14
Originally posted by Natator:


That has caused me problems in the past. I tried the 2 windows approach and found images I had already voted on in one window, some I had even commented on, would then appear again as if they had never been voted on in the second.

I gave up that idea.


I have this same problem now and I am on cable and only using one window. I don't understand it.
03/03/2005 04:30:24 AM · #15
As for the "how much would a modem user want to download", I guess if they are already voting, they are already doing this anyway. I just thought that for modem users, you could kick off the download overnight, and vote at your convienience offline. As for the photo theft, I guess I have always thought that if you don't want your photos copied, dont publish them on the Internet. Seeing as the IMAGE_ID's are sequential, spidering for them is just a counter script. The low res of submissions is probably the saving grace, as a 640x jpg won't scale for too many things...

If people are interested, I might put something together myself as a client side thing...
03/03/2005 07:06:44 AM · #16
Originally posted by blurredvision:

As for the "how much would a modem user want to download", I guess if they are already voting, they are already doing this anyway. I just thought that for modem users, you could kick off the download overnight, and vote at your convienience offline. As for the photo theft, I guess I have always thought that if you don't want your photos copied, dont publish them on the Internet. Seeing as the IMAGE_ID's are sequential, spidering for them is just a counter script. The low res of submissions is probably the saving grace, as a 640x jpg won't scale for too many things...

If people are interested, I might put something together myself as a client side thing...


If you are going to put such a package together, I would strongly recommend contacting the Administrators for permission, as creating, distributing or using such a package without permission may violate one or more of sections 2.4, 3.6, 4.2(i), 4.3(iii), 4.3(iv), 4.3(ix), 4.6, 5.7(b) and/or 7.2 of the DPChallenge Terms of Use.

-Terry

Message edited by author 2005-03-03 07:09:03.
03/03/2005 05:24:59 PM · #17
Terry,
Thanks for the heads up. Standard practice to ask before spidering a site. I was actually planning on emailing them to raise the idea, and offer some services if they were interested... Time will tell.

Blurred.
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