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02/17/2005 03:45:46 PM · #1 |
I've been researching for quite awhile for a new camera...actually just dreaming since I can't really justify upgrading. I just wondering why there is never any talk about Olympus cameras?
The new E300 evolt just came out and I see there are some users here but never any discussion about them. From my research this would be the camera I would buy; 8mp, large fast sensor, variety of lenses, customizable modes, etc. For $999 (899 with rebate) this would appear to be a great camera. Especially since the canons and nikons can cost 3-4 times that and sometimes without a lens or the number of mp.
I am on my 2nd olympus digital and have never been let down. Is it just that they aren't professional enough for most of the users here or am I missing something? Just wondering if I should dream bigger.
//www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/cpg_product_blue.asp?l=1&p=&bc=&product=1140
Message edited by author 2005-02-17 16:05:07. |
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02/17/2005 04:02:01 PM · #2 |
I like the fact that it has the supersonic wave filter to keep dust off the sensor - if it works as well as they claim.
There's aren't a great deal of lenses available for it yet and most that are available are expensive.
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02/17/2005 04:11:08 PM · #3 |
I still use my 4 year old Olympus all the time, even though I got a Canon S1 IS last year. But I don't know how they compare in the DSLR or higher-end prosumer camera area -- I don't have much familiarity with any of the cameras in this range.
For people who want a tough P&S camera for travel, I might steer them towards the Olympus Stylus series, with water-resistant housings so you can use them safely in rainy/damp conditions. |
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02/17/2005 04:14:36 PM · #4 |
There's a local wedding photographer who uses the E1 and E10. I saw some 16 x 20 prints that he did on an Epson 7600 that are just fantastic - not bad from a 5MP image.
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02/17/2005 04:16:21 PM · #5 |
| Only allowed to talk about "Cannon" on this site. Kinda snobby if you ask me. |
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02/17/2005 04:26:10 PM · #6 |
I used an Olympus E-10 for quite awhile. Nice camera with good results. I wanted to go DSLR and looked strongly at the E-1 and also the E300.
I went with the Canon 20D due to availability of lenses and of course, It is a 20D! IMO, If it had the sensor cleaning feature of the Oly, it would cover the whole playing field.
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02/17/2005 04:26:20 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by cloudsme:
Only allowed to talk about "Cannon" on this site. Kinda snobby if you ask me. |
or Nikkon.
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02/17/2005 04:26:32 PM · #8 |
Seeing how many similar Canon threads this thread will be gone in about 30 seconds :P
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02/17/2005 04:28:59 PM · #9 |
| so what I think I'm seeing is that people like olympus but they appear to be stuck on the name...either canon or nikon? ummm |
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02/17/2005 04:31:13 PM · #10 |
If I go into an automotive forum, I can't be alarmed by the lack of information on diesel engines.
Nikon and Canon are world leaders in this area. There are plenty of Non-Nikon and Non-Canon owners here, but they are the minority...that's not a bad thing...
Message edited by author 2005-02-17 16:31:28.
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02/17/2005 04:34:26 PM · #11 |
| Caonon & Nikon are more spoken of because they are more popular. While Olympus is doing some exciting and inovative stuff, their DSLR works with a new line of lenses made just for that line of cameras, rather than being backwards compatible with their old lenses. I looked at the camera and it was great in many ways, self cleaning sensor or amazing weather seal being the most obvious advantages, but I was afraid that i was going to buy into a line that Olympus would orphan, and I would be stuck buying new stuff all over again in a few years. Remember the vastly superior BetaMax that Sony put out and how it fared. I see oly running in that path. |
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02/17/2005 04:36:54 PM · #12 |
In the professional world, in the film world, it's always been that way. Time was, the only 35mm cam worth considering for professional shooting was the Nikon. Why? Because they ahd the best "system", you had many more accesories and lenses available. Kind of like Windows has a LOT more software avalable than mac does.
Then Canon made a big push for the professional market, and as it stands now I think Canon is ahead of Nikon in professional usage among film photographers. As far as I can tell they're ahead in digital as well, in terms of number of users. Why? Again, it appears to be the "system", plus they seem to be upgrading stuff more quickly than Nikon.
Are these the only options? No, of course not. But for a serious professional they may be, because system and upgrade path are where it's at. For any other manufacturer to crack into this level would require a significant dedication of resources.
If you don't expect ever to expand to a full-blown system, if you expect to remain content with 2-3 lenses and a good body, then your options are open. The Olympus looks like a really nice camera to me. I suspect that a lot of people buy Canons and Nikons 'cuz they "look good", in the same way that people who have never (and will never) raced cars buy Porsches and ferarris, or pay good money to stuff a hemi in a pickup truck...
Robt.
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02/17/2005 04:42:02 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
... or pay good money to stuff a hemi in a pickup truck...
Robt. |
You know, I've really been trying to figure out why everyone gets so excited over a truck with half an engine ... : ) |
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02/17/2005 04:44:36 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
You know, I've really been trying to figure out why everyone gets so excited over a truck with half an engine ... : ) |
Boy! That will go over the top.
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02/17/2005 04:47:00 PM · #15 |
| The new Canon Digital Rebel XT has everything you mentioned (minus the sensor cleaner) for $999 with kit lens. Canon has MANY more options in terms of lenses and accessories. That said, this guy has managed quite well with his fairly old Olympus. |
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02/17/2005 04:48:03 PM · #16 |
Never any talk about Fuji Film either I might be the only one
Message edited by author 2005-02-17 16:48:22. |
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02/17/2005 04:56:51 PM · #17 |
My first two digital cameras were Olys, and I loved them. Actually, I still use my 750UZ as much as I use my Rebel. When it came to the SLR, I went with Rebel because of price.
I do really like the Oly brand though. The picture quality from my 750UZ has been excellent! |
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02/17/2005 04:57:07 PM · #18 |
Poor research. If you meant small variety of lenses then you are correct. Right now there are a total od 7 (that's seven) Zuiko Olympus lenses available as opposed to the 60 to 70 available for the Canon or Nikon systems. As far as it costing 3 to 4 times as much to own a Canon, I fail to see where you are doing your research. The new 8Mp 350D will be on the market in a few months and will probably cost under $1250 (bunches of people are saying under $1000) with a lens. You can buy the 8Mp 20D for under $1300.
The Zuiko Olympus DSLR camera system you are talking about is a Four Thirds system which means the camera, sensor and even the lenses are smaller then a 35mm system. Less camera = less money.
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02/17/2005 05:15:58 PM · #19 |
Bradp Has an Olympus E10, and his work is terrific, I had an Olympus and was very happy with it until some st... stole it.
I think it is a matter of feelin. You will be able to shoot better photos with the camera you feel comfortable than with an expensive one.
Just my 2 cents.
Message edited by author 2005-02-17 17:44:24. |
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02/17/2005 05:23:29 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by cloudsme:
Only allowed to talk about "Cannon" on this site. Kinda snobby if you ask me. |
Oh please. There are way more people using Canon/Nikon so there are way more conversations. It has nothing to do with societal rules.
You need to decide for yourself whether your camera or your work defines you. If your camera doesn't define you, then why care about perceptions of snobbiness? If you believe that your camera defines you, then I guess snobs will probably be a big hurdle to get past.
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02/17/2005 05:26:27 PM · #21 |
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02/17/2005 07:16:04 PM · #22 |
Thank you all for your input...especially Bear. I haven't been doing photography for very long and as you can see from my portfolio I still have a long way to go (also why I can't justify upgrading) and was looking for peoples input.
Thanks again. |
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02/17/2005 09:00:25 PM · #23 |
Olympus has never had the marketshare that Canon and Nikon have. They have had and continue to have some great, innovative products. My dad still has an OM2 film camera that is a joy to use. I loved shooting with my tiny XA rangefinder (until it got stolen). My dad currently uses an Oly 8080 that does what he needs it to and makes good looking images.
As far as the E-1, E-300 and the whole 4/3 system, I wouldn't dismiss it outright. If it's what you feel best fits you needs, then by all means go for it. You'll also get to put up with crap from Canon & Nikon guys, but that's just the way it is.
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02/17/2005 10:07:46 PM · #24 |
While the 4/3rds system is just getting off the ground (only been around for a couple of years), and only has a few lenses, there are some hopeful signs that other manufacturers are going to be producing both camera bodies, as well as, lenses. Olympus just today announced three new Zuiko lenses (article here), and all of their lenses are of very high quality glass and are splash proof and dust proof. In addition, Olympus and Panasonic have signed a joint development agreement to develop more lenses (article here). Current Panasonic cameras are made with high quality Leica lenses and the hope is that Panasonic will bring Leica along. In addition, it has been talked about on various other forums that Schneider Optics and Zeiss may also be producing 4/3rds lenses.
Other manufacturers in the 4/3rds community besides Olympus and Panasonic are Kodak, Fuji, Sanyo, and possibly Sony too will be producing a 4/3rds format camera. If all this comes to pass, then their actually may be as much, or more, availability of lenses and accessories for the 4/3rds system than for C&N.
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02/17/2005 10:11:39 PM · #25 |
They also announced f/2.0 zoom lenses. Although I am Canon and badass, f/2.0 zooms are badass. lol
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