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02/17/2005 03:28:03 PM · #1
Do you ever wonder just how everyone has voted on your picture? I always wish I knew who gave me the tens and for sure who gave me the ones. Knowing this would give a great deal of input to the photographer if they could tell how their fellow voters voted. I have nothing to hide about the vote I give a picture, and have many times listed my vote with my comment. Never have I had any negative feedback from this method. It would sure be interesting to see who and how just once.


02/17/2005 03:32:38 PM · #2
You don't have a right to know how others vote on your entry. If you want honest votes don't even think about knowing who gave your image what vote.
02/17/2005 03:33:05 PM · #3
I agree It would be nice to know and why those 1's and 2's are given out so freely
02/17/2005 03:35:18 PM · #4
Removing the anonymity of voting would be an unmitigated disaster. I shudder to think of the consequences...

Robt.
02/17/2005 03:35:26 PM · #5
then everyone would vote 7 or more all the time not to get bashed or get a bad rrrrrrrrrrap!
02/17/2005 03:36:23 PM · #6
yup. It would bring chaos. The system that is in place now works just fine.

Message edited by author 2005-02-17 15:37:15.
02/17/2005 03:38:00 PM · #7
Some people just knock off a point for things like not meeting the challenge, but if I don't see any connection to the challenge (even if it's a stellar picture) then I give you a 1. Or if your picture is just horrible .. again a 1.

There ya go, mystery solved. Every 1 ever given out came from me.

:-)
02/17/2005 03:39:54 PM · #8
Come on now don't you ever wonder? That's all I asked.
02/17/2005 03:42:51 PM · #9
Originally posted by autool:

Come on now don't you ever wonder? That's all I asked.


Actually ... No.

If someone gives me a one, either my photo sucked in their eyes, or they were just being a jerk. It is their right I guess.

I can understand where you are coming from though.


02/17/2005 03:43:44 PM · #10
I just had someone leave me a one, and a fairly substantial paragraph explaining why.
I happen to have some disagreements with the opinions, and "explanations" for the questions which were asked. But, I have no problem with the person voting as they wish, and appreciate the detailed comment regardless of whether I agree with it. I can easily wait until the challenge is done to comment on the comments (several others are in a similar vein).

If people could just "listen" to the comments without feeling compelled to respond, we'd all get a lot more and better feedback.
02/17/2005 03:43:58 PM · #11
Originally posted by autool:

Come on now don't you ever wonder? That's all I asked.


I'll look through your photos and let you know if it was me...just a sec...
02/17/2005 03:44:29 PM · #12
Originally posted by GeneralE:

I just had someone leave me a one, and a fairly substantial paragraph explaining why.
I happen to have some disagreements with the opinions, and "explanations" for the questions which were asked. But, I have no problem with the person voting as they wish, and appreciate the detailed comment regardless of whether I agree with it. I can easily wait until the challenge is done to comment on the comments (several others are in a similar vein).

If people could just "listen" to the comments without feeling compelled to respond, we'd all get a lot more and better feedback.


Totally Agree.
02/17/2005 03:47:00 PM · #13
I think the system should force a voter to provide feedback if giving a 1. This could be held anonymously so no one would know who it was but atleast you would get to see the reason for it.
02/17/2005 03:47:58 PM · #14
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

Originally posted by autool:

Come on now don't you ever wonder? That's all I asked.


I'll look through your photos and let you know if it was me...just a sec...


Nope...wasn't me. I've voted on three of your pictures since I started. I gave you a 6, a 7, and a 9 in that order.

You're a good photographer!
02/17/2005 03:49:06 PM · #15
Originally posted by bhound:

I think the system should force a voter to provide feedback if giving a 1. This could be held anonymously so no one would know who it was but atleast you would get to see the reason for it.


Yea.. but then those people will stop giving a 1 out, to avoid the feedback.
02/17/2005 03:52:21 PM · #16
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

Originally posted by autool:

Come on now don't you ever wonder? That's all I asked.


I'll look through your photos and let you know if it was me...just a sec...


Nope...wasn't me. I've voted on three of your pictures since I started. I gave you a 6, a 7, and a 9 in that order.

You're a good photographer!


Thanks for the compliment, but you didn't need to look.

I just wanted to know if other people cared what their peers gave them. I am surprised to know so many don't seem to.
02/17/2005 03:52:49 PM · #17
Originally posted by vince31874:

Originally posted by bhound:

I think the system should force a voter to provide feedback if giving a 1. This could be held anonymously so no one would know who it was but atleast you would get to see the reason for it.


Yea.. but then those people will stop giving a 1 out, to avoid the feedback.


Careful when you say 'those people'...don't most of us give out a 1 occasionally?

I know I do...maybe just 1 or 2 per challenge, about equal to the number of 10's I give out.
02/17/2005 03:55:04 PM · #18
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

Originally posted by vince31874:

Originally posted by bhound:

I think the system should force a voter to provide feedback if giving a 1. This could be held anonymously so no one would know who it was but atleast you would get to see the reason for it.


Yea.. but then those people will stop giving a 1 out, to avoid the feedback.


Careful when you say 'those people'...don't most of us give out a 1 occasionally?

I know I do...maybe just 1 or 2 per challenge, about equal to the number of 10's I give out.


Yes... sometmes I do. So I guess I am one of "Those People". However.. I tend to give out 4 for a bad photo. I stay away from 3, 2 , 1.

Message edited by author 2005-02-17 15:56:18.
02/17/2005 03:55:53 PM · #19
Originally posted by autool:

I just wanted to know if other people cared what their peers gave them. I am surprised to know so many don't seem to.


I saw 1's given to some of your photos that are truly excellent. That's just plainly a silly voter. That's why I often don't care about my 1's.

I would rather know why somebody gave my photo a 4 or 5...what made it dull or uninteresting or technically faulty or whatever?

With a 1, somebody just doesn't like the photo at all and likely nothing could be done to change it. When somebody assigns a 4, there are often things that could have been done to bring that photo up to a 6 or 7 in that voter's eyes. That's who I'd like to hear from.

Message edited by author 2005-02-17 15:56:53.
02/17/2005 03:57:53 PM · #20
Originally posted by vince31874:

Originally posted by bhound:

I think the system should force a voter to provide feedback if giving a 1. This could be held anonymously so no one would know who it was but atleast you would get to see the reason for it.


Yea.. but then those people will stop giving a 1 out, to avoid the feedback.


Yeh, then I would just give you a two. Some images are beyond comments. I've seen some that were so bad that I figured the owner was either trying for the brown or hadn't a clue. Either way I don't see how telling them "Hey, your picture looks like mud" is going to help. If I see redeeming qualities in an image but notice something is holding it back I may comment. I don't comment on all the images because I don't have the time.
02/17/2005 03:59:59 PM · #21
I think it should be kept secret on how a person votes. The grudge factor or get even factor could enter into the voting. There are ppl now that will vote against flowers, babies, and the flag no matter how artistic the picture is.
02/17/2005 04:00:52 PM · #22
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

I would rather know why somebody gave my photo a 4 or 5...what made it dull or uninteresting or technically faulty or whatever?

With a 1, somebody just doesn't like the photo at all and likely nothing could be done to change it. When somebody assigns a 4, there are often things that could have been done to bring that photo up to a 6 or 7 in that voter's eyes. That's who I'd like to hear from.

And yet those are the very ones which get the fewest comments, because it takes thought and time to offer suggestions more practical and specific than "great job" or "this sucks." I know, because I have a harder time commenting on them myself.
02/17/2005 04:02:10 PM · #23
Originally posted by nsbca7:


Yeh, then I would just give you a two. Some images are beyond comments. I've seen some that were so bad that I figured the owner was either trying for the brown or hadn't a clue. Either way I don't see how telling them "Hey, your picture looks like mud" is going to help. If I see redeeming qualities in an image but notice something is holding it back I may comment. I don't comment on all the images because I don't have the time.


Exactly, when a 1 is assigned to a photo...there's nothing to comment about. With a 4 or 5, it might just take a change in composition, better timing, larger dof, better post-processing or whatever to turn it into a great photo.
02/17/2005 04:02:46 PM · #24
Originally posted by GeneralE:

I know, because I have a harder time commenting on them myself.


Yeah, me too.
02/17/2005 04:03:57 PM · #25
Originally posted by nsbca7:

...I don't see how telling them "Hey, your picture looks like mud" is going to help.

But it is mud : )



Message edited by author 2005-02-17 16:04:15.
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