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02/17/2005 01:05:24 AM · #1
Fellow D70 owners- do you mess with the in-camera options for picture type (Normal, softer, sharper, landscape)? I was wondering how much affect this has on the pictures? I do know the softer setting is perfect for portraits, but the others??? Thanks!
02/17/2005 01:35:25 AM · #2
i think i pretty much leave mine on landscape, then again thats about all ive shot recently, plus with the raw thing i dunno never paid much heed to that.
02/17/2005 01:45:01 AM · #3
One little question:
Is the moire really an issue in D70?
Sorry for changing the subject. I do love the idea of Nikon and my goal for this year is a dSLR. Now with the cut downs in prices at 10D and the new Rebel XT to come I think more of Canon.
Thanks!

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02/17/2005 02:29:57 AM · #4
Moire is not a problem for me, I own a D70 for one year now, made tons of shots, and never noticed any moire problem at all.
02/17/2005 02:41:04 AM · #5
Originally posted by bitfarmer:

Moire is not a problem for me, I own a D70 for one year now, made tons of shots, and never noticed any moire problem at all.

I love your answer ;-)
02/17/2005 09:04:08 AM · #6
No moire problem noticed here. But I don't shoot buildings, glass, steel grates alot, so...
I shoot RAW so really don't fiddle with the settings much at all. Leave it on the White Wedding curve most of the time.
02/17/2005 09:10:31 AM · #7
I shoot RAW all of the time, i don't see a reason not too, the camera is quick and buying a DSLR, you're buying it for quality images.. anyway..

I've never played with the in camera sharpening settings so i can't comment on that at all. One thing i can say is i've never noticed any moire on any of my pics either.

I think the manual gives you some brief information on what the settings can be used for, i don't have mine handy unfortunately.
02/17/2005 10:05:51 AM · #8
I prefer to have total control over my post processing so I don't play with those settings.

As for moire, I've had it on the odd shot but I had to be at 100% and even then it was barely noticable.


02/17/2005 10:19:05 AM · #9
I usually keep the same settings:

Sharpening +1
Custom Tone (White Wedding)
Color Mode III
Saturation +
0 Hue Adjustment

Usually don't require too much post processing with this setup. If I'm shooting a custom white balance in a low-light area (for example shooting a hockey game), I change the contrast from custom tone to normal, as the white wedding curve (at least in my case) magnifies the noise in the scene under these conditions.

Once I get a higher capacity memory card, I will probably shoot more raw. (Side note - with a 256 MB card, the camera says it can take 23 raw - the actual number it will take is about twice that, right? I read somewhere about an error with the counter in raw mode)
02/17/2005 10:52:32 AM · #10
The only time I use JPEG is for family event snapshots. Even then, any time I suspect a great image I try to flip the dial to RAW. If I had 1-2GB flash cards I probably wouldn't even do that. Now that I use Bibble, it's really hard to make a case for shooting JPEG.

I can tweak one image, then apply the settings (all or individual) accross an entire download in seconds. It's fast and I'm in control. I did this yesterday with 82 bird images. All were similar lighting. I tweaked saturation, curve, EV, sharpening, IPTC data, and noise reduction. Copied it all to the clipboard, then pasted to the whole roll. Total image processing time: < 1 min. I can even save those settings and use them again later.

It costs a bit more, but using a tool like C1 or Bibble can completely change the way you look at workflow, and save unbelievable amounts of time. In my mind, time savings on image processing is the biggest thing JPEG had going for it. For me, that just doesn't cut it any more.
02/17/2005 10:57:57 AM · #11
I've never seen moire in any of my shots.

I use the sharp setting because I figure that I can always soften an image after the fact in photoshop. If my logic is incorrect, please advise.

I just bought the 50mm 1.8 lens two days ago which I've been trying to figure out where and when it's best to use. It's considered a great portrait lens and maybe I'll give the softer setting on the D70 a whirl when doing portrait type shots.
02/17/2005 11:42:32 AM · #12
Is Bibble a lot easier/faster than using Nikon Capture? Like I said, I don't work too often with raw, so I haven't tried applying settings to a batch process with Nikon Capture.

Originally posted by cghubbell:

The only time I use JPEG is for family event snapshots. Even then, any time I suspect a great image I try to flip the dial to RAW. If I had 1-2GB flash cards I probably wouldn't even do that. Now that I use Bibble, it's really hard to make a case for shooting JPEG.

I can tweak one image, then apply the settings (all or individual) accross an entire download in seconds. It's fast and I'm in control. I did this yesterday with 82 bird images. All were similar lighting. I tweaked saturation, curve, EV, sharpening, IPTC data, and noise reduction. Copied it all to the clipboard, then pasted to the whole roll. Total image processing time: < 1 min. I can even save those settings and use them again later.

It costs a bit more, but using a tool like C1 or Bibble can completely change the way you look at workflow, and save unbelievable amounts of time. In my mind, time savings on image processing is the biggest thing JPEG had going for it. For me, that just doesn't cut it any more.

02/17/2005 01:08:19 PM · #13
I only shoot in RAW also. Never noticed the moire problem with the D70, however I did notice a problem with a Fuji Finepix s7000.
02/17/2005 01:43:42 PM · #14
Originally posted by Maverick:

Is Bibble a lot easier/faster than using Nikon Capture? Like I said, I don't work too often with raw, so I haven't tried applying settings to a batch process with Nikon Capture.


For starters, it's a LOT faster. You'll never hear anyone tell you NC is fast, but it does produce excellent quality output.

The difference between RAW converters is (to me) much like the difference between everybody's favorite films. Different converters WILL produce different output, each having strengths and weaknesses. My choices are very limited because I choose to use Linux as my digital darkroom platform, so in the interest of full disclosure, I didn't have too many choices :)

I've used Nikon Capture for one-at-a-time editing, but haven't used its batch functions. In all fairness I can't compare their batching functions. What I can tell you is that Bibble gives me excellent output. I usually find that it's more color-accurate than JPEG out of the camera.

The only other thing I'd say is that I've found that given reasonable learning curve time I have massively streamlined the time and effort that goes into turning my raw images into print quality output.
02/17/2005 02:01:14 PM · #15
Originally posted by cghubbell:

The only other thing I'd say is that I've found that given reasonable learning curve time I have massively streamlined the time and effort that goes into turning my raw images into print quality output.

This has recently become a huge issue for me. Thanks for the input.
02/17/2005 02:06:52 PM · #16
what about the "long exposure noise reduction" setting in the D70? do a lot of use that or leave it off?
02/17/2005 06:30:15 PM · #17
Originally posted by pawdrix:

I use the sharp setting because I figure that I can always soften an image after the fact in photoshop. If my logic is incorrect, please advise.

I would definitely say wrong. You are alowing the camera to use its sharpening setup in camera. There are much better ways to do this out of camera. Plus it allows YOU to control the amount. ie: screen viewed may not need much sharpening at all. Prints may need an extra bit of sharpening just prior to printing.
02/17/2005 06:31:49 PM · #18
Originally posted by ngremour:

what about the "long exposure noise reduction" setting in the D70? do a lot of use that or leave it off?

I use it all the time. May look at seeing if Noise Ninja does a decent job on shots without NR on, but I would doubt as good as with using both NR and NN.
02/17/2005 06:55:03 PM · #19
maybe i'm a dumbass, but what is moire?

Joe
02/17/2005 08:16:46 PM · #20
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:

...Leave it on the White Wedding curve most of the time.

I've heard a lot about the white wedding curve, what exactly is it? I'm with you magicshutter, what's moire???
02/18/2005 09:25:28 AM · #21
Go find a vehicle with a billet grill (horizontal or vertical metal ines with a pretty much equal space between each), then start taking shots of it from the front, then taking a step to the left or right, another shot, continue unitl you are around the front of the vehicle. At some point you will see funny patterns and colors.
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