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02/18/2005 06:33:41 PM · #26
you guys all lost me way back in the beginning.... 50mm f/1.8, and 24-70mm f/2.8 whats the difference beside the focal length? especially with the f stops
02/18/2005 06:34:58 PM · #27
sorry to interject another question into the thread.
I am waiting for a Nikon d70 body to arrive in a couple of days. And I have a 28-105mm Nikkor AF f/3.5-4.5 lens from my "previous life" with N80. Is is a good leans to operate with D70, anybody has any experience?
02/18/2005 06:37:27 PM · #28
I noticed a lot of people recommend the 50/1.8 lens (about $99), but how much better is the 50/1.4 (about $259)?
02/18/2005 06:38:02 PM · #29
Originally posted by ltsimring:

sorry to interject another question into the thread.
I am waiting for a Nikon d70 body to arrive in a couple of days. And I have a 28-105mm Nikkor AF f/3.5-4.5 lens from my "previous life" with N80. Is is a good leans to operate with D70, anybody has any experience?


28mm with 1.5 crop factor will be like 42mm, which you cannot enjoy as a wide anymore.
02/18/2005 07:11:13 PM · #30
Originally posted by LEONJR:

you guys all lost me way back in the beginning.... 50mm f/1.8, and 24-70mm f/2.8 whats the difference beside the focal length? especially with the f stops


If you mean a Nikkor 24-85 f/2.8, then the difference between that and a 50 1.8 is about 1600 dollars and that the 50 1.8 is a bit faster.
02/18/2005 07:13:30 PM · #31
Originally posted by ltsimring:

sorry to interject another question into the thread.
I am waiting for a Nikon d70 body to arrive in a couple of days. And I have a 28-105mm Nikkor AF f/3.5-4.5 lens from my "previous life" with N80. Is is a good leans to operate with D70, anybody has any experience?


If you were happy with your 28-105 before, then you should be just as happy with it on a D70. Only difference is you will now have to back up about 6 steps to obtain the same 28mm focal length you had on the film body.
02/18/2005 07:14:05 PM · #32
Na flash let me try and explain my self better what is the f stop mean in it like i was reading somewhere about the 50mm f/1.8 and the 50mm f/1.4 whats the differnece beside glass it has to be f 1.4 and 1.8 what do they mean and when it comes to flash the same thing thanks
02/18/2005 07:20:47 PM · #33
Originally posted by dogz:

I noticed a lot of people recommend the 50/1.8 lens (about $99), but how much better is the 50/1.4 (about $259)?


Most users do not feel that it is worth the extra 200 dollars. Also, Nikkor's 50mm f/1.8 D is rated a solid 5 for excellance on a scale of 1-5 with 5 being the best. This is a standard "learning" lens on film bodies as it forces the user to learn framing by positioning themselves closer of farther from the subject. An art that is often missed when camera enthusiasts start right off with zooms. However, in digital SLR's it is not an exact 1-1 traning aid as instead of a standard 50mm the user is effectively using a 75. Not a huge difference but not a 1-1.

But for a base prime lens from which to build a stable, this is about as good as it gets. If I could only have 1 lens, this would be it. Light, fast, excellant sharpness.
02/18/2005 07:21:17 PM · #34
Originally posted by Flash:

Originally posted by ltsimring:

sorry to interject another question into the thread.
I am waiting for a Nikon d70 body to arrive in a couple of days. And I have a 28-105mm Nikkor AF f/3.5-4.5 lens from my "previous life" with N80. Is is a good leans to operate with D70, anybody has any experience?


If you were happy with your 28-105 before, then you should be just as happy with it on a D70. Only difference is you will now have to back up about 6 steps to obtain the same 28mm focal length you had on the film body.


well, it is not that simple: the difference between 28mm and 42mm is in the angle of view, so if I shoot something BIG (like a building), I may have to step back a lot more than 6 steps, and it is not always possible.
I am glad though that it looks like it will work just fine with d70. It has a macro mode, which used to work very well on N80. I wonder if it will behave the same way on d70 as well?
02/18/2005 07:25:12 PM · #35
but i still havent figure it out somebodys gotta know this is driving me nuts iam trying to figure it out thanks ......

Originally posted by LEONJR:

Na flash let me try and explain my self better what is the f stop mean in it like i was reading somewhere about the 50mm f/1.8 and the 50mm f/1.4 whats the differnece beside glass it has to be f 1.4 and 1.8 what do they mean and when it comes to flash the same thing thanks

02/18/2005 07:26:11 PM · #36
Originally posted by LEONJR:

Na flash let me try and explain my self better what is the f stop mean in it like i was reading somewhere about the 50mm f/1.8 and the 50mm f/1.4 whats the differnece beside glass it has to be f 1.4 and 1.8 what do they mean and when it comes to flash the same thing thanks


The difference in f stop ratings is the amount of light that a lense can gather. The lower the number, the more light gathering ability of that lens at maximum aperature opening. This can affect such things as shutter speed and depth of field settings. Many photographers are constantly seeking a compromise between lens cost and these other factors.

Hope this helps.

The f1.4 is a .4 "faster" or can gather more light at maximum aperature than a f/1.8.
02/18/2005 07:28:55 PM · #37
Originally posted by Flash:

Originally posted by LEONJR:

Na flash let me try and explain my self better what is the f stop mean in it like i was reading somewhere about the 50mm f/1.8 and the 50mm f/1.4 whats the differnece beside glass it has to be f 1.4 and 1.8 what do they mean and when it comes to flash the same thing thanks


The difference in f stop ratings is the amount of light that a lense can gather. The lower the number, the more light gathering ability of that lens at maximum aperature opening. This can affect such things as shutter speed and depth of field settings. Many photographers are constantly seeking a compromise between lens cost and these other factors.

Hope this helps.

The f1.4 is a .4 "faster" or can gather more light at maximum aperature than a f/1.8.


excellent i knew you would come through but now i jus have a basic understanding i'll to do more reasearch
02/18/2005 07:31:30 PM · #38
Originally posted by ltsimring:

well, it is not that simple: the difference between 28mm and 42mm is in the angle of view, so if I shoot something BIG (like a building), I may have to step back a lot more than 6 steps, and it is not always possible.


The difference between a 28 and a 42 is about 6 steps. If you are shooting a large building and could not back up, then you probably would not be using your 28 anyway.
02/18/2005 07:34:02 PM · #39
by the way jus so you know i know alot about apeture but jus in the camera you see unlike alot i actually dont have a dslr with a interchangable lens so i havent gotten my chancce yet to play around with these things i guess iam jumping the gun
02/18/2005 09:14:19 PM · #40
I still really don't understand everyones infatuation with lens mm and the cropping factor and "on a film it does this." I DO understand it is easier for people in photography already and have shot film to understand what the lens is for, can be used for, etc.
I look at it this way...compse the photo the way you want it and shoot it. SOmetimes that means moving around, back and forth, etc. If you want more or less in the picture...learn that larger numbers mean less in the picture and smaller numbers equal more. Figuring out FOV, and all that crap when getting ready to shoot seems a giant waste of time, instead of just Trowitodaeyenledderfly (but then I consider myself an Opportunistic Photographer...I ust happen to come across alot of cool stuff.) Know what I mean? Experment with what ya got, you'll learn what they do and in the process you will learn what you need.

Message edited by author 2005-02-18 21:32:40.
02/18/2005 09:32:11 PM · #41
Originally posted by Bolti:

50mm 1.8 can't fail portraits with that one


I bought one last week and love it. Perfect for portraits well, well, reviewed and super inexpensive. You can't go wrong with this lens in any way. Read the reviews some say it's even better than it's more expensive Nikkor cousins.
02/18/2005 09:41:13 PM · #42
Originally posted by aronya1:

Pardon my ignorance, but is the 50mm f1.8D any good for macros?


Yes. Reversed with a Macro Adapter Ring that cost only $25(purchased today). You are limited to taking the photo from a few inches away from the subject and have no control over dof but I took one shot and it came out well enough. Decent start for light entry level work or practice. The price was right.



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