Fixing this photo - DPChallenge Forums

02/03/2005 08:42:19 PM · #1

I know there is a way to do this, but I don't know how.
The piece of blurry grass needs to be clones away, but how??? Thanks. Please include steps, also, I use Gimp 2
Thanks

edit: ummm....here's the pic

edit 2:

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Message edited by author 2005-02-03 20:45:29.

02/03/2005 08:53:25 PM · #2

HELP!!!

moodville

Nikon D100

02/03/2005 09:00:36 PM · #3

Never used gimp but I assume it's similar to photoshop. Just take the clone stamp/healing brush and very carefully at 150% clone out the grass.

02/03/2005 09:41:33 PM · #4

Originally posted by moodville:

Never used gimp but I assume it's similar to photoshop. Just take the clone stamp/healing brush and very carefully at 150% clone out the grass.

Um, how exactly? I never quite got ahold of cloning.

02/03/2005 09:43:48 PM · #5

PS 7.0 and above has a "healing brush" that works olike the clone stamp but averages out the values of the area being cloned TO with the area being cloned FROM, so it's very subtle. Fixing this in PS would be a snap.

I akm sure the GIMP has a clone tool, but I am not so sure about the healing brush. Assuming you must work with the clone tool, do this:

1. Zoom in on the image so it's VERY magnified, you want to be able to actually see pixels.

2. Select the clone stamp and adjust thr diameter of it in pixels so that it is about 20% larger in diameter than the dimension of the grass blade vertically.

3. if you have the option, select a "fuzzy-edged" brush for the tool, so it blends better.

4. Starting at the left of the grass blade (if you're right-handed) move the cursor with its circle so it's JUST above the blade and hold down the alt key and click.

5. Then move the cursor so it's centered on the grass blade vertically, and, click and hold, and "draw" down the center of the grass blade from left to right.

This will drag a cloned copy of the area immediately above the blade right down the lenth of it, with the "point from which the clone originates moving along with the cursor. Don't worry if it doesn't look perfect at this point, just sweep on down in one long movement if possible.

Finally, go back and examine the work at slightly less magnidication; anywhere it looks artificial, go back to that spot with a smaller diameter on the tool and fuss around with it until it looks right.

Hope this helps.

Robt.

02/03/2005 09:52:42 PM · #6

I can't find the "healing brush." I don't know if GIMP has it or not. Also, I'm having trouble with step 2, I don't see where I can adjust the diameter. But other than that, I think I have to practice for a while... Thanks, I really appreciate it!

pitsaman

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

02/03/2005 10:01:34 PM · #7

Fix that photo????!!!

02/03/2005 10:21:07 PM · #8

Originally posted by pitsaman:

Fix that photo????!!!

uh, yeah....

02/03/2005 10:24:04 PM · #9

He's saying he likes the picture, what's to fix, I think... But I agree, lose the blurry blade and it's a dynamite improvement.

Robt.

02/03/2005 10:26:59 PM · #10

Originally posted by bear_music:

He's saying he likes the picture, what's to fix, I think... But I agree, lose the blurry blade and it's a dynamite improvement.

Robt.

Exactly, but I can't seem to do it.

02/03/2005 10:31:22 PM · #11

Gotta practiuce, practice. Use help files, search "brush diameter"; that's the real key. You need a smallish brush so you can keep everything in alignment, see? if you use too big a brush you get the baldes zigging and zagging, looks unnatural.

Robt.

02/03/2005 10:33:54 PM · #12

Originally posted by bear_music:

So a small brush and not a big one?

02/03/2005 10:36:58 PM · #13

Yeah, read the instructions again LOL. Should be about 20% larger diameter than the width of the grass blade, no more.

Robt.

02/03/2005 10:43:05 PM · #14

Originally posted by bear_music:

Yeah, read the instructions again LOL. Should be about 20% larger diameter than the width of the grass blade, no more.

Robt.

Do you mean 20% the size of the blade? (not 120%?)

petrakka

02/03/2005 10:55:03 PM · #15

20% larger than the diameter of the blade. therefore if its 50 px wide, use a 60 px brush, 100 px wide, 120 px brush etc. u can do it.

4score

Nikon D80

02/03/2005 10:56:32 PM · #16

I think Bear is saying 20% LARGER or 120%.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

02/03/2005 11:05:17 PM · #17

Originally posted by 4score:

I think Bear is saying 20% LARGER or 120%.

that's what I thought....well, I'll give it another try tomorrow. Thanks again, I will let you see the final product!

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

02/03/2005 11:42:32 PM · #18

This kind of operation is far easier to perform with a tablet/stylus than with a mouse or trackball. If you plan to do a lot of photo retouching I highly suggest getting one.

As an addition to bear's instructions, I clone the correction onto a new layer; makes it easy to toggle on/off to judge the effect, and to fix it up without destroying the underlying pixels.

Message edited by author 2005-02-03 23:44:04.

pitsaman

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

02/03/2005 11:44:05 PM · #19

Originally posted by bear_music:

He's saying he likes the picture, what's to fix, I think... But I agree, lose the blurry blade and it's a dynamite improvement.

Robt.

LOL, :-)

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Canon

02/04/2005 12:20:10 AM · #20

I was going easy on him, General; he sounds like he may not be into layers yet. Information overload dontcha' know?

jejeje�

Robt.

kennyt

Canon EOS-50D

02/04/2005 12:41:51 AM · #21

My quick attempt using the above methods. I added in using the sharpening brush. to help with some of the out of focus grass.
How did I do Teacher :)

02/04/2005 01:18:32 AM · #22

Originally posted by bear_music:

I was going easy on him, General; he sounds like he may not be into layers yet. Information overload dontcha' know?

jejeje�

Robt.

Actually, he's right: I don't know a whole lot about layering and would love a lesson in it!